NFL Relocations and League Expansion

[BurnleyBomber]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

All fixed now mate.

 

[JeffDunne]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

He's talking out of his arse.

 

[Woodson]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

Guarenteed in 2009?? bah! And I suppose this guy pictured will be working alongside the schmuck Semcken.

 

[bringbackschwarter5]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

Wouldnt be suprised to see the Chargers go to L.A., stadium deal runs out soon and Qualcomm stadium is a ****ing shit hole

 

[DevNull]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

No way for 2009 -sounds like the guy is just trying to talk himself up.

I've got no doubt that the NFL would like to make inroads in to the LA market for increased TV rights, but LA just doesn't seem to care that much about NFL, they seem happy with USC/UCLA.

 

[deck]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

I don't think LA are worthy of a team. In LA they support winners not teams. Unless the team can be guaranteed of sustained success it will not succeed as a franchise. You will find the people there switch and change like the Melbourne weather and follow what ever team is winning. They will be lucky to see out 10 years.

 

[FootyJunkie]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

I don't think LA are worthy of a team. In LA they support winners not teams. Unless the team can be guaranteed of sustained success it will not succeed as a franchise. You will find the people there switch and change like the Melbourne weather and follow what ever team is winning. They will be lucky to see out 10 years.

NFL Team in LA = Sydney Swans?

 

[FootyJunkie]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

Wouldnt be suprised to see the Chargers go to L.A., stadium deal runs out soon and Qualcomm stadium is a ****ing shit hole

How about calling themselves the "California Chargers" if they move to L.A.? Try to reach out for support everywhere in the state, old home in San Diego, L.A. and anyone up north who hates the Niners or Raiders and doesn't follow anyone.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

I think the Raiders and Niners would definitely have opposition to the idea of a 'California Chargers'. There are a lot of Californians who support the Niners and Raiders, up and down the coast. Also, I think a team moving to LA, the dude proposing the stadium would want them called LA for marketing reasons too. I think that guy wants a stake in the team that does move to LA as well, not just offering a stadium for them.

 

[Lupton Warchild Pittman]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

The Chargers next Stadium will be closer to L.A than San Diego.

 

[Crumpler83]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

L.A. should have a team IMO but if the population of the city has failed in getting behind their teams in the past what will change this time?

I thought LA people were passionate about their professional sports teams but obviously they are more passionate about being seen courtside at a Lakers game than the game itself.

I'd hate to see an existing team like the Bills or Chargers reloctaed to a city where nobody cares about them.

 

[JeffDunne]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

CHARGERS SCRAMBLING TO SELL TICKETS

Somewhere in L.A., Ed Roski is tapping his fingertips together and muttering, “Excellent.”

The San Diego Chargers have announced that they’ve received a 24-hour extension to sell the rest of the tickets to the regular-season opener at Qualcomm Stadium. If they can’t, the game will not be shown on television in the San Diego market.

“We’re doing everything we can to get the word out that we still have tickets for sale. We think that a lot of fans just don’t realize we still have tickets available,” said Chief Operating Officer Jim Steeg. “Our streak of 30 consecutive regular season and postseason sellouts is definitely in jeopardy.”

Holy crap.

It’s the first game of the season — for at least two years now, perhaps longer, every game sells out in Week One.

It’s Week-Freaking-One, for cryin’ out loud.

And these are the Chargers, a team many believe is the most talented in the AFC, even if Shawne Merriman’s knee eventually collapses like a Jenga tower.

The Chargers. Not the Falcons or the Chiefs or some other team that basically is beginning a 16-game preseason for 2009.

Even if they get the seats sold, this development doesn’t bode well for the city to keep the team in place when its lease expires at the end of the season.

The obvious destination? Los Angeles, where the team spent its first AFL season in 1960.

From PFT.

 

[SriLankanCat]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

I think LA do need a team, simply because i am sure all fans are sick of people saying LA needs a team.

BEing a saints fan i am worried they will move to LA. I will bnot be happy until they sign a agreement to stay in NO.

The chargers moving makes sense but i am sure a lot of SD fans would not like htat which is totally fair.

I think from what i have heard, the cahrgers or raiders will eventually move to LA, the bills to Toronto.

JAcksonville is in jeapordy as well.

 

[wolvesjr34]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

I scoff at anyone thinking 49ers would relocate... that would equate to blasphemy....

and it does appear more likely to be chargers, base don what I just read up there.

I still cannot believe anyone would even consider the 49ers moving... *shakes head* And I can't stand the niners!!

 

[Exe Gesis]

Re: LA To Have Guaranteed NFL Team in 2009

A good recent article focusing on the Raiders and Niners re: new stadiums....

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/07/BAT312P1M9.DTL

(09-07) 16:43 PDT -- With three seasons to go on their lease at the Coliseum, the Oakland Raiders are once again putting the team's future in play.

This time around, the team wants locals to turn the area around the Coliseum into a full-fledged retail and entertainment district - complete with a new, football-only stadium.

"We need to find a way to revitalize the area," Raiders chief executive Amy Trask said on the eve of the team's season opener Monday night in Oakland against the Denver Broncos.

"What we have suggested is not just a stadium, but something to bring business enterprise and activity to a part of the community that needs it," Trask said.

The team's call for a new home comes just as the Oakland A's, who share the stadium with the Raiders, are laying tracks for a move to Fremont.

The Raiders want Oakland and Alameda County - which are still on the hook to the tune of $22 million a year for the 1995 rebuild of the stadium and subsequent makeover of the Coliseum arena - to help finance the dream plan.

Whatever plan that might turn out to be.

"It has to be what the NFL describes as a public-private partnership," Trask said.

"Our job is to try to put together a deal so the Raiders will stay," said Oakland City Council President Ignacio De La Fuente, who chairs the city-county Coliseum Authority and was heavily involved in the team's return from Los Angeles 13 years ago. "We are having good discussions, and that's as far as I'm going to go."

Experts say the team has little chance of returning anytime soon to L.A. or finding a new home in oft-mentioned Las Vegas or San Antonio, Texas.

The Raiders have floated the idea of a move through the Caldecott Tunnel to Dublin - or even sharing a new stadium with the 49ers - but with little effect.

Hence, with their lease winding down - and the city and county already agreeing to extend the A's contract at the Coliseum for up to three years, through 2013 - Al Davis & Co. appear determined to play the hand they've been dealt.

Meanwhile: In the South Bay, the future of the 49ers' plans for a stadium next to the Great America amusement park still hangs in the air - with no quick resolution in sight.

Hopes for a November ballot initiative in Santa Clara to help finance an $800 million stadium there faded after the city and 49ers failed to meet a July deadline for putting a deal together.

So far, Cedar Fair, which owns Great America, has resisted offers by the Niners to allow a stadium to be built on the amusement park's parking lot, or even on a neighboring overflow lot.

If a deal can't be reached, the 49ers have said they may be willing to buy Great America from the company, which leases the amusement park site from the city. But the question is, at what cost?

Cedar Fair reportedly has pegged the park's value at upward of $110 million - well above what the Niners say it's worth.

"At this point, the ball is in (the Niners') court," said Cedar Fair spokeswoman Staci Frole.

In the meantime, the folks at Great America say they have something other than football on their minds this fall - they're turning the place into a haunted theme park, complete with monsters in the midway, just in time for Halloween.

 

[raskolnikov]

Los Angeles

I wonder if they'll ever get a team again. It seems crazy that the second biggest city in the US doesn't have a team, especially when they used to have two.

 

[Woodson]

Re: Los Angeles

Not the NFL kinda demographic that the NFL thought it ought to be. Massive on the College circuit but too many 'empty stadium seats' venue to be considered an NFL town again. I'm sure we've touched on this Lala land thread topic before but GG can just 'do his merge thread thing'.

 

[GeeCats07]

Re: Los Angeles

Woodson is right in that for whatever reason they haven't gotten into it in the past. That being said, there have been rumors about Davis selling the Raiders back to LA again. I think they have been squahsed now, but you never know.

 

[Sven]

Re: Los Angeles

have a read of http://min.scout.com/a.z?s=63&p=2&c=831053

Its an update on a new stadium deal for LA. The stadium would, obviously, be a precursor to a team returning to LA.

and yes Woodson is right, USC football is a religion in LA, and USC rules the roost in that market. USC's success is probably one of the reasons that professional teams have struggled in LA.

 

[haterade]

Re: Los Angeles

Who needs an NFL team in LA when theres the USC Trojans :

-NFL Coach in Pete Carroll
-Runs a Pro Set Offense
-Almost all starters are first day draft picks
-100,000 in attendance at all home games
-Cheerleaders look just as good minus the boob jobs

 

[marcuz]

Re: Los Angeles

Who needs an NFL team in LA when theres the USC Trojans :

-NFL Coach in Pete Carroll
-Runs a Pro Set Offense
-Almost all starters are first day draft picks
-100,000 in attendance at all home games
-Cheerleaders look just as good minus the boob jobs

You forgot to add that much like a pro team USC pays their athletes....

 

[11sjw]

Re: Los Angeles

You forgot to add that much like a pro team USC pays their athletes....

I have heard that. It always seems to come through as an urban myth though. Any chance of telling how you 'know' ?

 

[raskolnikov]

Re: Los Angeles

have a read of http://min.scout.com/a.z?s=63&p=2&c=831053

Its an update on a new stadium deal for LA. The stadium would, obviously, be a precursor to a team returning to LA.

and yes Woodson is right, USC football is a religion in LA, and USC rules the roost in that market. USC's success is probably one of the reasons that professional teams have struggled in LA.

LA Lakers?

 

[11sjw]

Re: Los Angeles

LA Lakers?

Pro Football teams.

The Rams left for St Louis prior to the 1995 season.

The Raiders were there for what their diehard fans from Oakland describe as their 13 year roadtrip ('82-'95).

 

[Woodson]

Re: Los Angeles

LA Lakers?

That's basketball.. niche audience. Popular but not as HUGE as College Football that rakes 'em in on gameday.

On a side note: You realise the Mustangs GM, Larry David, dislikes the Lakers. Says nothing makes him more happy than seeing 17k Laker supporters dissappointed when they 'seldomly' drop a home fixture. Larry is a Knicks fan but still a Mustangs Fantasy Football kinda guy.