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are we all up watching the tennis or are we on sucicide watch after fridays game?
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Review Review Thread vs Collingwood
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Ha ha, I was catching up on some TV shows I'd taped and the end of No Country For Old Men, but I think it's fair to say I need to get my ass to bed! Was watching some of the tennis earlier though. The Kvitova v Kuznetzova game was a good one.
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People can say what they want, and people can say they are in "the know" or they could just be a "casual fan" it doesn't mean you cant have your own views and opinions. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with somebody.
Just because my view is that Nick Riewoldt doesn't lower team morale, it doesn't mean im a fool because somebody else thinks differently.
It's not your opinion or the fact that you disagree with somebody that's the issue, it's the way that you attacked him. His post was reasonable, and he didn't have a go at anyone in particular. You're entitled to your opinion, but maybe try to be a bit more respectful next time.
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He looked soo unfit...
He wouldn't be the first player with the ability to dominate a lower grade, but without the wheels to compete at AFL level.
Needs a big pre season, if you're a contested ball winner, you need to be able to get to contests.
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yeh good point. ive made that argument on other points as well from others
on roo my personal opinion is theres no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water. better just work with him on it.
Wow, I didn't agree with something somebody said and I gave my opinion .
So far ive had two private messages sent to me ,been called a fool and now im being told I attacked him
To all involved im very sorry if my sticking up for Nick Riewoldt came out with a bit too much passion and I apologise if anybody was offended.
( P.S , im being sincere, im not being a smartarse
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He had 19 touches he didn't do to bad for his 17th game
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As one of those who is NOT one of the more level headed posters, I agree with this statement entirely.
As one of those who is NOT one of the more level headed posters, I agree with this statement entirely.
Since when does obsessive passion make for a level head?
Terry, I am sorry, I was wro wro wrong. Milera was good, not only with his disposal, which he always had, but had some great tackles and was the only one providing defensive pressure in our forward 50.
Unlike many here I thought Rhys had an ok game. Yes when the ball is below his knees he is almost useless, but he is not robinson crusoe of tall guys. The problem with his game was the way the ball was kicked to him, eitheir way over his head or on the half volley, the few times it was kicked in a markable fashion, he marked it.
Unlike many here it is not the last qtr that has me upset, but the last 10 min of the first. Something like 7 goals from 8 inside 50's. And it was not the defenders failing, but the mid field. For those 10 minutes Collingwood owned the ground between the 50's, the ball came in fast and often without any support and the defenders had no chance.
We had a couple of great moments of play when we came out of our fifty and long pin point passes had us with a coast to coast chance in record time.
Midfield - a big fat fail, failed in everything a mid field is meant to do. Could not win the ball or dispose of it with skill and acted like witches hats without the ball
Forwards - almost as bad, FFS stop stuffing around inside the 50 and pressure the ball carrier to stop it coming back out
Backs - lads given what was coming your way you did good. Delaney, getting up and making a tackle on one leg. Great Stuff.
Unlike many here I thought Rhys had an ok game. Yes when the ball is below his knees he is almost useless, but he is not robinson crusoe of tall guys. The problem with his game was the way the ball was kicked to him, eitheir way over his head or on the half volley, the few times it was kicked in a markable fashion, he marked it.
Unlike many here it is not the last qtr that has me upset, but the last 10 min of the first. Something like 7 goals from 8 inside 50's. And it was not the defenders failing, but the mid field. For those 10 minutes Collingwood owned the ground between the 50's, the ball came in fast and often without any support and the defenders had no chance.
We had a couple of great moments of play when we came out of our fifty and long pin point passes had us with a coast to coast chance in record time.
Midfield - a big fat fail, failed in everything a mid field is meant to do. Could not win the ball or dispose of it with skill and acted like witches hats without the ball
Forwards - almost as bad, FFS stop stuffing around inside the 50 and pressure the ball carrier to stop it coming back out
Backs - lads given what was coming your way you did good. Delaney, getting up and making a tackle on one leg. Great Stuff.
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Thought we were pretty competitive for the first 3 quarters and it was disappointing to let the margin blow out in the last quarter which made the loss look worse than it was. Collingwood won it in the midfield, they just had too much class, depth and experience which put our undermanned defence under pressure and didn't give our forwards enough quality ball. The umpires didn't do us too many favours either which didn't help.
Shenton and Milera have been a couple of positives and deserve to keep their spots. Stanley was a bit disappointing but as our only ruck/forward to back up Longer needs to stay in the team, if anyone should be dropped it probably should be Schneider who has only performed well in the Essendon game.
Shenton and Milera have been a couple of positives and deserve to keep their spots. Stanley was a bit disappointing but as our only ruck/forward to back up Longer needs to stay in the team, if anyone should be dropped it probably should be Schneider who has only performed well in the Essendon game.
I was at the game and although i've tried to stay positive here's what i think;
- Siposs - 13 disposals, 1 goal, 0 tackles = simply not good enough
- Stanley - 9 disposals, 0 goals, 0 tackles = simply not good enough
- Schneider - 7 disposals, 0 goals, 5 tackles = simply embarrassing for a senior player
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I've always been a big Stanley supporter but one thing I noticed at the game was that he rally needs to get more aggressive and attack the ball and opposition players. At the moment he seems to slow down at the contest when sometimes if he just kept his line and accelerated into it he'd come out on top.
He doesn't need to turn into Simpkin and look to kill everything in sight but a bit more aggression would go a LONG way. He needs to demand that the ball is his and not just hope it is. That desperation would probably also transfer into when he is leading up at the ball and it might make him a more obvious target.
It might be a bit of a hangover from a couple of the impact injuries he has had, but either way he should be able to fix it.
He doesn't need to turn into Simpkin and look to kill everything in sight but a bit more aggression would go a LONG way. He needs to demand that the ball is his and not just hope it is. That desperation would probably also transfer into when he is leading up at the ball and it might make him a more obvious target.
It might be a bit of a hangover from a couple of the impact injuries he has had, but either way he should be able to fix it.
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What is good enough then? For a 3rd tall, playing as a second tall, on the 2nd best defender, with 25 games experience? 5 goals, 3 assists? Maybe you missed the 4 inside 50's (1st) and 1 rebounding?
He is in the team as a fwd/ruck. His stats are shit because he played Full Back half the night. He has been going OK this year, he will get better.
They did what they could on the night for the team. They can do better, but the whole team can do better after Friday night.
Smoke_Me_AKipper
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The one thing that struck me was our lack of work when we didn't have the ball. Not just this match either.
If you look at the good teams, watch how hard they work when they don't have the ball. Now do the same thing the next time you watch St Kilda. You'll see a difference.
I think it is a learning experience for our 0-60 game players and we will get better but for now this is a huge reason why we are getting pantsed by an average of 75 points recently....
If you look at the good teams, watch how hard they work when they don't have the ball. Now do the same thing the next time you watch St Kilda. You'll see a difference.
I think it is a learning experience for our 0-60 game players and we will get better but for now this is a huge reason why we are getting pantsed by an average of 75 points recently....
6 of Koschitski's last 50 games had more than 13 disposals.
31 of those games had a single goal or less.
31 of those games had a single goal or less.
Come on, how long did he play full back for? As I said on another thread, I am a big Stanley fan, he's an important player, but that was a pretty poor game from him. He needs to find some consistency. No more excuses please. He needs to work harder and demand the footy.
Certainly valid points, but with the torrid delivery we're providing to our forwards, it's no wonder he's been struggling.
Yeah well he might have to get used to that for a while unfortunately.
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Look at Jesse White that people say played well . Far more inside 50's midfield on top and a 86 point win. His numbers this game and all year aren't flash. Stanley is no star but he is performing as well as mist if not all second tall/ rucks.
I don't want to turn this into another Stanley bashing thread, but the way he is going (on his gk average) he will finish up with 13 goals for the year.
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This is the midfielders' problem.
In essence you're correct re the midfiled however the reality is they're (Siposs & Stanley) simply not up to AFL level and whilst I realise you will rebuke this please tell me what other AFL teams they would get a game at producing these outputs week after week? There comes a time when you have to acknowledge certain players are not up to the task no matter how much we wanted them to be.
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