List Mgmt. Rioli to Port Discussion

[HoneyBadger35]

Forgive the intrusion everyone, I come in peace.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Sorry for the intrusion, I come in peace.

Just on the Rioli situation, I'm struggling to understand why he would be worth more than a 3rd rounder? If we look at the facts in regards to his history with suspension due to drugs, the limited amount of games played and goals kicked over his career coupled with his age I just don't get it?

Can someone explain his worth to me?

Not to be flippant but why is he worth four years at $500k then? Pretty hefty offer for someone not worth much with a troubled past who will be 31 by the end of the deal.

I understand the concerns at face value given his history, but Port’s reported offer doesn’t line up with the high risk reclamation project narrative.

That and the fact the Eagles openly wanted to re-sign him and have committed to him in more ways than one over years, why would they be inclined to accept a lower offer?

 

[dajesmac]

No

Pick 14,24,33 and our future first (12)

Got Kelly, 52 and Geelongs future 3rd (53) back

Ah yes - what happened to our 2020 second rounder?

 

[Dark Sharks]

33 and 43 are worth an extra 237 points than pick 27 alone.

Not sure how that appeals to us though, unless we're on trading them to someone else.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Sorry for the intrusion, I come in peace.

Just on the Rioli situation, I'm struggling to understand why he would be worth more than a 3rd rounder? If we look at the facts in regards to his history with suspension due to drugs, the limited amount of games played and goals kicked over his career coupled with his age I just don't get it?

Can someone explain his worth to me?

I'll give you a clue . It's the same reason you are willing to pay him 500k x 4years .

 

[CountryLad]

Sorry for the intrusion, I come in peace.

Just on the Rioli situation, I'm struggling to understand why he would be worth more than a 3rd rounder? If we look at the facts in regards to his history with suspension due to drugs, the limited amount of games played and goals kicked over his career coupled with his age I just don't get it?

Can someone explain his worth to me?

Because your club sticks it’s dick into anything that moves and in Rioli case he’s a NFA so you need to trade for him or the Eagles can let him walk . It’s not that hard to understand

 

[THE A5]

An uncontracted player leaving and then being picked up again by the same club. The AFLPA would get involved you'd think.

I mean once his career is over and those events like premiership reunions and etc

 

[Mr Gui Guojie]

Not to be flippant but why is he worth four years at $500k then? Pretty hefty offer for someone not worth much with a troubled past who will be 31 by the end of the deal.

I understand the concerns at face value given his history, but Port’s reported offer doesn’t line up with the high risk reclamation project narrative.

That and the fact the Eagles openly wanted to re-sign him and have committed to him in more ways than one over years, why would they be inclined to accept a lower offer?

Reported offer, how do we know that's factual?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

It would be seen as an uncontracted player exercising their right to leave a club only to be drafted back to the same club, I know a player chooses to go into the draft/PSD but it would absolutely be seen as something untoward and I imagine some people and groups would have to get involved.

Even if so, the most they could do would be change the rules for next time.

 

[Obeanie1]

Sorry for the intrusion, I come in peace.

Just on the Rioli situation, I'm struggling to understand why he would be worth more than a 3rd rounder? If we look at the facts in regards to his history with suspension due to drugs, the limited amount of games played and goals kicked over his career coupled with his age I just don't get it?

Can someone explain his worth to me?

He is a match winner who brings others into games and is elite by foot passing inside F50.

Elite goal sense.

If he was on the open market you wouldn't win the auction with a 3rd rounder.

PS the last person who came in peace was trolling hard.

 

[THE A5]

B Williams is the second best ruck his age or younger after Jackson.

Reckon Dark Sharks cat Mr Marbles could out ruck bailey

 

[ziad]

How about 33 & 43 for Junior? We then trade 33, 38 and 43 to Brisbane for pick 15 (they gain about 300 points assuming I did that calculator thing correctly). We loose Junior + 38 for pick 15. This leaves us with 2, 15, 20 and 26.

Well, I often wonder if this is the type of trade set up that is sorted off the record making the initial swaps look odd. Its looks ok for us even though speculative.

 

[ep2018]

Brisbane need 15 for Dunkley so people should stop speculating a points trade for the pick.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Reported offer, how do we know that's factual?

We don’t specifically, but it’s hardly going to be miles off the case. All we have to go on is the fact the Eagles wanted to keep him, there have been no reports of the Eagles lowballing him, Port are actively pursuing him, and Rioli stated he wanted to get himself set up financially so let’s not pretend he’s volunteering his time out of good faith.

Selling club doesn’t want to lose player.
Buying club clearly wants players.
Player wants financial security.

All adds up to Port at the very least thinking he’s more than fringe list filling depth. BigFooty posturing doesn’t actually impact what the trade shakes out at, but it’s hard to reconcile a club who very clearly want a player, a fan base who rate him, a selling club with otherwise no interest in selling all just coming together and winding up at some random pick in the 40s.

 

[ziad]

Sorry for the intrusion, I come in peace.

Just on the Rioli situation, I'm struggling to understand why he would be worth more than a 3rd rounder? If we look at the facts in regards to his history with suspension due to drugs, the limited amount of games played and goals kicked over his career coupled with his age I just don't get it?

Can someone explain his worth to me?

Your lack of cognitive ability is noted.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

So with Port after JHF and now having sold their pick 27 to Melbourne, they have no way of trading picks for Rioli.

Here it is - Powell Pepper for Rioli.

I'd do it and give them our R5 to sweeten the deal

 

[Free Agent]

How about 33 & 43 for Junior? We then trade 33, 38 and 43 to Brisbane for pick 15 (they gain about 300 points assuming I did that calculator thing correctly). We loose Junior + 38 for pick 15. This leaves us with 2, 15, 20 and 26.

No way would Brisbane take later pick for a 1sr round. Like us those late picks mean nothing. That's a horrible trade and no one gives a crap about points when it comes to picks in the 30s.

Even if you said pick 50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59 and pick 60 for pick 15 it most likely would get rejected. High picks mean nothing really.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

Port are going to dish off all their acceptable picks then throw their hands up... just wait.

 

[TerryFilk]

So with Port after JHF and now having sold their pick 27 to Melbourne, they have no way of trading picks for Rioli.

Here it is - Powell Pepper for Rioli.

I'd do it and give them our R5 to sweeten the deal

God I’d hate that, Powell-Pepper will just block our young draftees from getting midfield time

 

[ThePuma #9]

Oh i'm so sick of this shit stain of a football club.

They ****ed us for Ebert and now they are doing it all over again for Junior.

Let him walk for nothing and then target every ****ing young player on their list for big money next year.

**** them.

 

[Dark Sharks]

SPP sucks. On quality that's a downgrade for Rioli.

I'd rather throw in a pick and go after Georgi.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

God I’d hate that, Powell-Pepper will just block our young draftees from getting midfield time

I'd play him half forward not midfield

 

[GWeagles]

God I’d hate that, Powell-Pepper will just block our young draftees from getting midfield time

He would only block those he is better than.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Hey guys, pardon the intrusion I come in peace.

How do we know that the draft projections are factual? The best player in the class might be taken at pick 70. Really struggling to understand why Ashcroft might be worth Pick 1 when we don’t even know the full facts of his career yet. Can someone explain for me please?

 

[Lightning_Rod]

So with Port after JHF and now having sold their pick 27 to Melbourne, they have no way of trading picks for Rioli.

Here it is - Powell Pepper for Rioli.

I'd do it and give them our R5 to sweeten the deal

If we didn't budge at anything more than 27, on what planet do you see spp being up for grabs lol, he is worth a lot more than 27.

 

[ThePuma #9]

An uncontracted player leaving and then being picked up again by the same club. The AFLPA would get involved you'd think.

Then the AFL can change the laws after the fact. I'm happy to die on our symbolic hill.