Game Day Rnd 5 - West Coast vs Sydney - Saturday 23rd April @ SCG

[Biggie]

I'm quite confident we'll win our next 17 games and finish 20-2

 

[nameless]

Yes.

Thanks for asking.

Interesting that you don't rate them.

They look top 2 for mine.

 

[ziad]

Ponder this.

For significant periods of the game we were better than the swans and had the momentum. We had a few lapses in work rate to let them in, after that they kept up the pressure and work rate - many of our players turned up their toes. We competed but didn't work and didn't take opportunities with ruthless aggression.

We lost above the shoulders and it smelt like the GF with many of the same contributors.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Ponder this.

For significant periods of the game we were better than the swans and had the momentum. We had a few lapses in work rate to let them in, after that they kept up the pressure and work rate - many of our players turned up their toes. We competed but didn't work and didn't take opportunities with ruthless aggression.

We lost above the shoulders and it smelt like the GF with many of the same contributors.

Add the simple skill errors which created turnovers and you have it spot on.

 

[Biggie]

Interesting that you don't rate them.

They look top 2 for mine.

I said they haven't looked special. You've drawn you own conclusion.

 

[frenchconnection]

He has a point Sydney struggled against GWS and Hawks have been lucky the last 3 weeks.

It's just frustrating that are near full strength we are playing so poorly.

Haven't figured it out yet as to whether it's just bad form, or has the hunger gone? At times it almost seems that the team hasn't got anything to give - they look so lethargic. Has the loss in the GF affected them mentally - that's the question? They seem to be coasting lol.

 

[frenchconnection]

Talent wise yes but our mentality just isn't there. We just don't have that killer instinct.

We were desperate to win this game yet where was the desperation? Where was the second efforts? The gut running?

When the game was there to be won Swans wanted it more. Why? We don't even try to win GF rematches.

What does it take to motivate these players?

I think that is the big question -lack of motivation. Your comments are spot on.

 

[frenchconnection]

Pyke leaves to Adelaide they lose Dangerfield and start dominating at the stopages. We gain Redden with Cox now our stopages coach and we go backwards.

You've just answered your own question - Pyke was gold as a stoppages coach and is a big loss. Shame he was headhunted by Adelaide!

 

[frenchconnection]

Why Redden over Hutchings? Hutchings has way more credit in the bank than this bloke - particularly in a game like this.

Surprised Redden didn't have a better day - would have thought the conditions would have suited him down to the ground?

 

[frenchconnection]

Bennell? Hutchings? McGinnity? Someone with a few ****s to give perhaps? Lamb? Nelson?

As much as we hang heaps on McGinnity for his lack of skill, one thing I will give him though is that he never stops trying. In this regard a few of our players need to have a good look at themselves (re lack of endeavour). Too many are waiting for somebody else to do the hard work.

 

[ChampRevesby]

As much as we hang heaps on McGinnity for his lack of skill, one thing I will give him though is that he never stops trying. In this regard a few of our players need to have a good look at themselves (re lack of endeavour). Too many are waiting for somebody else to do the hard work.

I'm almost of the opinion of putting a few more scrappers around the ball just to put pressure on the opposition ball carriers because our mids at the moment are so terrible bad at the defensive part of the game.

 

[frenchconnection]

I dont care if Cole is not a forward . Lecras doesnt deserve his spot in the team at the minute

How old is Le Cras now. It's just odd that he has gone backwards so much this year (so far). Has he lost a bit of run and is slowing down? Just a thought.

 

[Pat_Footy]

As much as we hang heaps on McGinnity for his lack of skill, one thing I will give him though is that he never stops trying. In this regard a few of our players need to have a good look at themselves (re lack of endeavour). Too many are waiting for somebody else to do the hard work.

McGinnity might be a better inclusion at the expense of Jetta.

 

[Biggie]

McGinnity might be a better inclusion at the expense of Jetta.

No, he wouldn't.

 

[I Am Bort]

We weren't expected to win this one, so no reason for melts.

Now that we have the Hawks and Swans out of the way, we have a pretty favourable run for the rest of the season with the exception of 3 hard to win games (Adelaide in Adelaide, Hawks at Domain, Geelong at Skilled - you could throw in North at Domain, but the home ground advantage will probably get us over the line); the rest we can absolutely win even if some of the matches are close (e.g. Bulldogs at Etihad).

There is no reason we can't be in the same position we were in last year when we finished second (16 W, 5 L, 1 Draw) at the end of this season given our draw.

I think having two tough games at the start of the season - with our pre-season starting later due to finals and not yet being in peak form - is clouding where we really stand.

 

[frenchconnection]

Flew up from Melbourne to watch this shit. Last 3 games ive been to GF, rnd 2, today. 3 embarrassing piss poor games. Aint winning shit this year

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Do us a favour - stay away lol. You're jinxing them

 

[frenchconnection]

How many top 6 teams did we play away last year? Hawks in the GF was the only one?

That's why last year when we kept winning that I thought 2015 was the year that we had to win the flag as we were not going to get such a soft draw again.

 

[WCFaithful]

We weren't expected to win this one, so no reason for melts.

Now that we have the Hawks and Swans out of the way, we have a pretty favourable run for the rest of the season with the exception of 3 hard to win games (Adelaide in Adelaide, Hawks at Domain, Geelong at Skilled - you could throw in North at Domain, but the home ground advantage will probably get us over the line); the rest we can absolutely win even if some of the matches are close (e.g. Bulldogs at Etihad).

There is no reason we can't be in the same position we were in last year when we finished second (16 W, 5 L, 1 Draw) at the end of this season given our draw.

I think having two tough games at the start of the season - with our pre-season starting later due to finals and not yet being in peak form - is clouding where we really stand.

optimistic
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adjective
adjective: optimistic

1. hopeful and confident about the future.
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   synonyms: cheerful, cheery, positive, confident, hopeful, sanguine, bullish, buoyant, bright;More
   disposed to look on the bright side, inclined to look through rose-coloured spectacles, always expecting the best, full of hope, Pollyannaish, Panglossian;
   informalupbeat;
   archaicof good cheer
   "always optimistic, Anne felt sure that she would see him"
   encouraging, promising, hopeful, bright, rosy, reassuring, favourable, auspicious, propitious
   "the forecast is certainly more optimistic"
   antonyms: pessimistic, negative, gloomy, ominous
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[frenchconnection]

Mackenzie and Sheppard - 2016 spuds of the year

Think they have a few friends lol

 

[ChampRevesby]

We weren't expected to win this one, so no reason for melts.

Now that we have the Hawks and Swans out of the way, we have a pretty favourable run for the rest of the season with the exception of 3 hard to win games (Adelaide in Adelaide, Hawks at Domain, Geelong at Skilled - you could throw in North at Domain, but the home ground advantage will probably get us over the line); the rest we can absolutely win even if some of the matches are close (e.g. Bulldogs at Etihad).

There is no reason we can't be in the same position we were in last year when we finished second (16 W, 5 L, 1 Draw) at the end of this season given our draw.

I think having two tough games at the start of the season - with our pre-season starting later due to finals and not yet being in peak form - is clouding where we really stand.

I don't get this. Basically accepting we are terrible away from home against good teams and then rely on the draw at home in a hope to make the top 4. Can we stop accepting mediocrity and expect this team to start competing every game.

 

[I Am Bort]

I don't get this. Basically accepting we are terrible away from home against good teams and then rely on the draw at home in a hope to make the top 4. Can we stop accepting mediocrity and expect this team to start competing every game.

We were in the lead part way through the 3rd quarter against a top 4 team at a ground we rarely play at and have not won at since last century.

Isn't that competing? It's not like we were blown out of the water until we gave up hope in the fourth when it was too much to come back from.

 

[I Am Bort]

optimistic
ɒptɪˈmɪstɪk/
adjective
adjective: optimistic

1. hopeful and confident about the future.
   "the optimistic mood of the Sixties"
   synonyms: cheerful, cheery, positive, confident, hopeful, sanguine, bullish, buoyant, bright;More
   disposed to look on the bright side, inclined to look through rose-coloured spectacles, always expecting the best, full of hope, Pollyannaish, Panglossian;
   informalupbeat;
   archaicof good cheer
   "always optimistic, Anne felt sure that she would see him"
   encouraging, promising, hopeful, bright, rosy, reassuring, favourable, auspicious, propitious
   "the forecast is certainly more optimistic"
   antonyms: pessimistic, negative, gloomy, ominous
   • (of an estimate) unrealistically high.
     "previous estimates of whale numbers may be wildly optimistic"

realistic
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   having or showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected.
   "I thought we had a realistic chance of winning"
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   representing things in a way that is accurate and true to life.
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[ChampRevesby]

We were in the lead part way through the 3rd quarter against a top 4 team at a ground we rarely play at and have not won at since last century.

Isn't that competing? It's not like we were blown out of the water until we gave up hope in the fourth when it was too much to come back from.

I think you just answered your own question with your last statement. This is the exact reason why we will never be a champion team.

 

[I Am Bort]

This is the exact reason why we never be a champion team.

I guess you're right, lets disband the club and quit wasting our time.

EDIT: Am I doing meltdown hyperbole right guys?

 

[ChampRevesby]

I guess you're right, lets disband the club and quit wasting our time.

Hyperbolic rubbish. Have fun living in fantasy land.