Reportedly GWS contract offer wasn't what Lobb thought he was worth
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People in this thread are seeing his big salary and confusing it with a salary dump because they have been all the rage lately
This is not a salary dump. This is a poaching of a player on high salary who would be moving for an equally high salary, it will cost the team poaching him.
He is not going to be worth what we are going to ask which is where this will fall down unless a team rates him higher than we do.
You wouldn't think so, but there is enough noise to make me think Lobb's management has convinced someone they want to get bent over for a 28 yo, occasionally brilliant but more often mediocre ruck/fwd. It never gets to the point where a player has serious interest from clubs without the club having a good understanding of trade price and some willingness to hand it over.Which is why he wont get traded because i cant see any team willing to pay that price unless they are stupid.
AgreedWhich is why he wont get traded because i cant see any team willing to pay that price unless they are stupid.
He is 28 years old, no one is judging him off just one year.Severely underrated here, even by our own supporters. Took Sydney’s defense apart earlier in the year. He nearly did his acl in the preseason, harsh to judge him off form this year. Similarly last year broke his scapula, and was still involved in a match winning play.
He's capable of games like Sydney or Hawthorn but he doesn't do it enough. He's 29 in February, what you see is what you get.Severely underrated here, even by our own supporters. Took Sydney’s defense apart earlier in the year. He nearly did his acl in the preseason, harsh to judge him off form this year. Similarly last year broke his scapula, and was still involved in a match winning play.
He's capable of games like Sydney or Hawthorn but he doesn't do it enough. He's 29 in February, what you see is what you get.
Also not sure how almost doing an injury excuses a season of inconsistent form? He certainly doesn't move like he is carrying a knee.
So at what point did his injury stop being a problem? It's not like he's played brilliantly since the bye. He's done what he always does. A couple of blinders, some absolute dross and a bunch of ok games.He just had syndesmosis surgery on an ankle injury he was carrying, he had 2 dominant games this year and many reasonable games. His knee injury effected his first few games of this year after returning from a knee injury in record time.
Injury free he’s an incredible player. 207cm, mobile, can pinch hit in the ruck. Would be a step backwards in our rebuild to let him walk for some pick 20s. 19 and 23 will be pushed back several spots.
Look i totally get you and Freo fans wanting to keep him due to the lack of depth they have with key forwards but the bold is flat out just not true.He just had syndesmosis surgery on an ankle injury he was carrying, he had 2 dominant games this year and many reasonable games. His knee injury effected his first few games of this year after returning from a knee injury in record time.
Injury free he’s an incredible player. 207cm, mobile, can pinch hit in the ruck. Would be a step backwards in our rebuild to let him walk for some pick 20s. 19 and 23 will be pushed back several spots.
Fold the Suns if they do thatOf he leaves for Goldcoast i genuinely reckon we will get 19 and 23 as well as giving up our second. He aint crap like a lot of people think he is! He plays a position that not a lot of people excel in. Forward/ruck. Tell me others in the AFL that absolutely dominate this position.
You dont think there forward like will be better with lobb? He probably has another 6 years left. There current ruck is Zac Smith. Ofcoarse he makes them a better team! Give me another forward/ruck who they should target then? Also try tell me a forward/ruck who actually dominatesFold the Suns if they do that
Lobb doesn’t fit the timeline at the Suns
Isn’t going to come in and set the culture at the club
Isn’t going to make them a considerably better team.
Witts is the Suns Ruck when fitYou dont think there forward like will be better with lobb? He probably has another 6 years left. There current ruck is Zac Smith. Ofcoarse he makes them a better team! Give me another forward/ruck who they should target then? Also try tell me a forward/ruck who actually dominates
A lot of key forwards actually play till this age though! Plus getting talent into GC isnt easy cause they dont wanna go. Retaining talent is also hard.Witts is the Suns Ruck when fit
I am also not saying Lobb doesn’t make them better, I am saying he doesn’t make them significantly better.
The Suns have had to regularly over pay players to get them to come/stay. Doing it again with with Lobb and also giving up multiple picks is not going to fix them going forward.
The reason most ruck/forwards don’t dominate is because most good talls have a main role. A ruckman who dominates and can pinch hit forward. Or a gun key forward who pinch hits as a ruck.
If Lobb was good enough to be a gun ruck or forward he would play majority of game time in that role.
ps I highly doubt Lobb is playing until around 35
Plenty also don’t, not sure we can just assume he is playing until 35. At the very least not any where near his peak.A lot of key forwards actually play till this age though! Plus getting talent into GC isnt easy cause they dont wanna go. Retaining talent is also hard.
the trade i suggested values Lobb at a Pick 16 odd
Im happy to keep him as a freo supporter. I think as our delivery inside 50 gets better so will he. Young sides tend to just blast itPlenty also don’t, not sure we can just assume he is playing until 35. At the very least not any where near his peak.
no doubt getting talent is a challenge, paying overs for average players isn’t fixing anything though.
Obviously the Weller trade comes to mind but that one from 2019, pick 11 for 27 straight swap was ridiculous.I think Lobb is still worth a 2nd rounder if he was out of contract. He’s still an decent AFL footballer on average and his position is hard to fill.
Suns would have made plenty worse trades then 19 + 23 for Lobb and 28
You dont think there forward like will be better with lobb? He probably has another 6 years left. There current ruck is Zac Smith. Ofcoarse he makes them a better team! Give me another forward/ruck who they should target then? Also try tell me a forward/ruck who actually dominates
We don't though, which is the point.He has 2-3 years left imo..Tops.
Also if Freo want to get rid of his massive cap eating contract, they would have to settle for unders.
I think this is what it will come down to. Do we want to get rid of his contract? The only reason we should need to get rid of his contract is if we have someone big coming in and most Freo supporters dont like the idea of that so you'd hope not.We don't though, which is the point.
He and his manager want to EXTEND that contract past the remaining two years.
It will be overs, or he stays.