Preview Round 17 - Essendon VS Collingwood, MCG, Friday 5/7/24, 7.40pm AEST

[Darealrath]

Out: Menzie, Draper
In: Shiel, Setterfield

 

[The Prosecutor]

In: Caddy, Shiel

Out: Goldstein, Cox

One ruck and Caddy adds more than two rucks.

I think we should only play one of Jones and Cox. At this point, Jones has shown more on a wing in two games than Cox has in four years. Jones/Duursma/Martin should be our wing rotation.

 

[ant555]

One of the rucks or 2MP out. Caddy in.
Perkins out. Setterfield or Shiel in.

 

[andleanback]

I expect to see Collingwood halt their wobbles of the past few games by annihilating us by around the same margin as Geelong have.

Goodbye finals.

Didn’t realise next week was the last game of the season and we need to win to play finals

 

[mcgrath_truther]

Out- Cheating maggot biased umpires.
In- Fair adjudicating officials that don’t ruin the game.

unless umpire 32 is dropped it’ll continue

 

[mcgrath_truther]

due time to give hayes or roberts a game.

 

[andleanback]

I’d get shiel in we need another mover with leg speed in this side and another mid to take off the load from Durham and Caldwell. Teams are putting a lot of work into merrett knowing if they shut him down you’re a good chance to beat essendon.

Have to take out a tall aswell

Knowing all this the likely only changes will be Kelly for Menzie.

 

[naraku]

Didn’t realise next week was the last game of the season and we need to win to play finals

If I am wrong,great.

But, I see us winning 2 more games the way we have gone recently.

 

[BratPack]

This has a familiar feeling to it, either we'll stand up after a week of scrutiny and the media questioning us and really put in a performance we can all be proud of

Or, more likely, we go full Essington and it's Round 24 last year all over again

 

[justlookingaround]

Don’t want to be negative, but feels like we’ve got our legs dangling off the cliff right now. Either we knuckle down and sort out some glaring issues in the next 5 days or a really bad loss is incoming imo.

The problems we’ve got up forward don’t feel like a simple fix at all. We simply lack scoring power. I think we’ve seen the current set up’s ceiling. It was alright when Langford drew a loose matchup but now that he’s having minimal impact it’s gotta be close to the worst performing forward line in the league.

I think missing Parish at stoppage is contributing a fair bit to our inability to score when we’re locked in f50. If you can’t do that, and can’t defend when it spills out, you’re not gonna beat any good side.

In: Caddy, Kelly, Hobbs
Out: Menzie, Perkins, Goldstein/Draper/Wright

 

[jdstorm]

hopefully 3 losses in 4 games leads to a few changes (and no injury changes)

Hayes McKay Ridley
Caldwell Redman McGrath (Lav)
Dursma Durham Martin
Bryan Merrett Setterfield (Hobbs/Perkins)
Guelf Wright Gresh
Hind draper langford (caddy)
Sub: Stringer
Hayes: deserves a chance. Frees up Ridley to be a medium defender

Caldwell has been good as a mid but honestly the difference between him vs Sheil or Hobbs as a replacement player isn’t all that much. Plays with courage but Offers very little in the front 3rd. HB/Mid rotation allows him to play to his strengths.

Wings: Jones Dursma Martin
Martin and Dursma are top level wings and this is their best spot. Jones also looked great there in the Jake Kelly

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Jake Kelly

Age

29

Ht

190cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

157.8

2star

D

8.1

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

104.1

2star

D

14.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.2

5star

MG

107.0

2star

role. Doesn’t fully understand the running patterns but should be persisted with.
Would have Sheil over Hobbs but he’s on the Grundy special RN. Perkins is a big body who needs reps. (Come back soon Darcy)

Jake doesn’t have the tank to play pressure forward. Langford lucky to keep his spot over Stringer. For that 1 MF role.

 

[eth-dog]

hopefully 3 losses in 4 games leads to a few changes (and no injury changes)

Hayes McKay Ridley
Caldwell Redman McGrath (Lav)
Dursma Durham Martin
Bryan Merrett Setterfield (Hobbs/Perkins)
Guelf Wright Gresh
Hind draper langford (caddy)
Sub: Stringer
Hayes: deserves a chance. Frees up Ridley to be a medium defender

Caldwell has been good as a mid but honestly the difference between him vs Sheil or Hobbs as a replacement player isn’t all that much. Plays with courage but Offers very little in the front 3rd. HB/Mid rotation allows him to play to his strengths.

Wings: Jones Dursma Martin
Martin and Dursma are top level wings and this is their best spot. Jones also looked great there in the Jake Kelly role. Doesn’t fully understand the running patterns but should be persisted with.
Would have Sheil over Hobbs but he’s on the Grundy special RN. Perkins is a big body who needs reps. (Come back soon Darcy)

Jake doesn’t have the tank to play pressure forward. Langford lucky to keep his spot over Stringer. For that 1 MF role.

Your obsession with playing Caldwell off HB is very strange. He's been our best mid the past month.

 

[cAsEy_18]

hopefully 3 losses in 4 games leads to a few changes (and no injury changes)

Hayes McKay Ridley
Caldwell Redman McGrath (Lav)
Dursma Durham Martin
Bryan Merrett Setterfield (Hobbs/Perkins)
Guelf Wright Gresh
Hind draper langford (caddy)
Sub: Stringer
Hayes: deserves a chance. Frees up Ridley to be a medium defender

Caldwell has been good as a mid but honestly the difference between him vs Sheil or Hobbs as a replacement player isn’t all that much. Plays with courage but Offers very little in the front 3rd. HB/Mid rotation allows him to play to his strengths.

Wings: Jones Dursma Martin
Martin and Dursma are top level wings and this is their best spot. Jones also looked great there in the Jake Kelly role. Doesn’t fully understand the running patterns but should be persisted with.
Would have Sheil over Hobbs but he’s on the Grundy special RN. Perkins is a big body who needs reps. (Come back soon Darcy)

Jake doesn’t have the tank to play pressure forward. Langford lucky to keep his spot over Stringer. For that 1 MF role.

This part is just terribly incorrect.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

hopefully 3 losses in 4 games leads to a few changes (and no injury changes)

Hayes McKay Ridley
Caldwell Redman McGrath (Lav)
Dursma Durham Martin
Bryan Merrett Setterfield (Hobbs/Perkins)
Guelf Wright Gresh
Hind draper langford (caddy)
Sub: Stringer
Hayes: deserves a chance. Frees up Ridley to be a medium defender

Caldwell has been good as a mid but honestly the difference between him vs Sheil or Hobbs as a replacement player isn’t all that much. Plays with courage but Offers very little in the front 3rd. HB/Mid rotation allows him to play to his strengths.

Wings: Jones Dursma Martin
Martin and Dursma are top level wings and this is their best spot. Jones also looked great there in the Jake Kelly role. Doesn’t fully understand the running patterns but should be persisted with.
Would have Sheil over Hobbs but he’s on the Grundy special RN. Perkins is a big body who needs reps. (Come back soon Darcy)

Jake doesn’t have the tank to play pressure forward. Langford lucky to keep his spot over Stringer. For that 1 MF role.

 

[Shanghaistu]

Are we a better team last year? As of now we haven’t beaten a single team in the top 8, and 7 of our wins have come from tight scrapes against the bottom 6 sides…. At least last year we knocked over GWS, Carlton and Melbourne from the final top 5/6…

 

[JayJ20]

The post-Geelong thrashing slide has begun like every year. We'll obviously play Collingwood into form.

 

[EnolaGay]

A real test of our resilience to see if we can bounce back from the last game.

I reckon we'll show more fight, but I still think it'll be the Umpires by 30.

 

[Seb78]

No Noble for Pies next week

 

[Dave]

At least it is looking like dry weather.

So we'll go in with no ruckman. rightio.

 

[bombreys]

Are we a better team last year? As of now we haven’t beaten a single team in the top 8, and 7 of our wins have come from tight scrapes against the bottom 6 sides…. At least last year we knocked over GWS, Carlton and Melbourne from the final top 5/6…

Probably about the same.

A few players have improved, but just as many have regressed.

 

[windyhill]

No Noble for Pies next week

And mcreery.

 

[Bjchan13]

B McGrath McKay Ridley
HB Duursma Laverde Redman
C Martin Durham Langford
HF Gresham Caddy Merrett
F Stringer Wright Perkins
R Draper Caldwell Shiel
INT Setterfield Guelfi Jones Heppell
SUB Hind

IN Caddy, Shiel, Setterfield
OUT Goldstein, Menzie, Cox

 

[rioli brownlow]

B McGrath McKay Ridley
HB Duursma Laverde Redman
C Martin Durham Langford
HF Gresham Caddy Merrett
F Stringer Wright Perkins
R Draper Caldwell Shiel
INT Setterfield Guelfi Jones Heppell
SUB Hind

IN Caddy, Shiel, Setterfield
OUT Goldstein, Menzie, Cox

Swap hind with Perkins and bring in Kelly for Heppell and reckon you are pretty close

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Probably about the same.

A few players have improved, but just as many have regressed.

I think we are a way better team. We are just flawed in the front half in a way we cant improve without getting some better players. Our defense, our transition out of defense, our ability to defend stoppage have improved out of sight.

 

[MattyB3150]

Our first half of the game I thought we were in control without getting the goals on the scoreboard. Our forward line is our biggest issue. We definitely need more speed in the forward line.
Unfortunately we gave up in the second half. Playing under the roof for half our Melbourne games doesn’t help us either in the wet conditions.