Preview Round 19, 2022: West Coast v St.Kilda - Optus Stadium, Sunday 24th July, 4:40PM AEST

[Ephemeral Hope]

Jones

Like for like in speed and dash but oh boy the kicking skill differential is a problem

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

I'd say Steele, Crouch and Ross are better midfielders than him.

So by the time you are getting to the 4th mid, I'd rather him playing the position he is arguably best in the competition at.

I suppose that depends on what your definition of a midfielder is.

If it's to get the contested ball & get it out, then Steele & Crouch are ahead.

If it's finding space & hitting up a forward then it's no contest.

 

[AirWinmar]

I'd say Steele, Crouch and Ross are better midfielders than him.

So by the time you are getting to the 4th mid, I'd rather him playing the position he is arguably best in the competition at.

Ross was out last week tho and won't play full minutes in the midfield anyway. Jones isn't very defensive and the rest are not quick. If Connolly can provide some dash off hbf it will allow Hill to rotate thru wing and half forward and Sincs to rotate with Ross in the guts

 

[L_W_P]

Why did we stop playing Hill across half forward? We looked really good with him delivering with time/space.

 

[AirWinmar]

Why did we stop playing Hill across half forward? We looked really good with him delivering with time/space.

Yeah it's a strange one. Even Hill said in an interview he thinks that's his best spot because he can use his running power to run back to defense and then up the ground

 

[gringo2011]

I doubt it.

Sinclair is arguably the best half back in the competition this year. Moving him to a different position and putting someone who is fairly meh in the VFL in that position instead weakens our ball movement from defensive 50 while only marginally improving the 4th-5th midfielder in the rotation.

Could equally suggest putting your superstar player on the ball makes more sense.

 

[phantom13]

Personally think we bat so deep in the midfield (albeit mostly average at best players) that robbing Peter to pay Paul isnt going to help.

 

[ARCHIE66]

Eagles ruck options are horrible this week so marshall should have a big one

 

[Miha]

Eagles ruck options are horrible this week so marshall should have a big one

I feel like we've said this a lot recently about other positions (Full Backs against King) and we still get destroyed

 

[botts]

If I see us go slow, switch the ball then go long down the line once in the first five minutes I’ll be done

 

[phantom13]

If I see us go slow, switch the ball then go long down the line once in the first five minutes I’ll be done

I think you can enjoy the 2ish hours back in your diary at least.

Look for the positives!

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Personally think we bat so deep in the midfield (albeit mostly average at best players) that robbing Peter to pay Paul isnt going to help.

it is indeed a blessing and a curse. having depth means you don't have a huge dip in overall performance when a player goes out but it also means that most times there's not really a huge boost to the team when reinforcements come back. No "oh when X comes back we'll be a 4-5 goal better team" the team's performance is you get what you get. Just single digit percentage differences when Owens comes in for Windy or Byrnes comes in for Wood or Higgins for Butler.

We always fall into the fallacy of believing that whatever player coming in is going to make a huge difference but sometimes they're just marginally better and the team plays about the same. The result in an even team like this is more dependant on gameplan and structure than individual efforts.

 

[BrutThough]

Could equally suggest putting your superstar player on the ball makes more sense.

It might make more sense if the player being brought in to replace them at half back was any good.

 

[BrutThough]

Ross was out last week tho and won't play full minutes in the midfield anyway. Jones isn't very defensive and the rest are not quick. If Connolly can provide some dash off hbf it will allow Hill to rotate thru wing and half forward and Sincs to rotate with Ross in the guts

When Ross comes back in, why wouldn't he go back to playing full minutes like he has all season.

I clearly rate Connolly a lot of less than anyone else if people are genuinely thinking he could come in and get anywhere close to providing what Sinclair and an inform Hill does at half back.

 

[PoppedCorn]

We'll smash them, even in Perth. They are abysmal; Saints by around 35 and outside chance of finals revived.

It's the heat
The heats got to him
Lol

 

[Veer Right]

Why did we stop playing Hill across half forward? We looked really good with him delivering with time/space.

Because he can barely make an impact in any position other then defensive wing/HB

 

[PoppedCorn]

Lol
He played fine up fwd

 

[jwint43]

Hope Hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

comes in and smashes it (not his face). He must be so frustrated by these injuries, it's not his own body letting him down. He was playing well against Carlton, hope he picks up where he left off

 

[Mowman]

Could equally suggest putting your superstar player on the ball makes more sense.

Jones or Clark to HBF
Sincs in the middle

 

[gringo2011]

It might make more sense if the player being brought in to replace them at half back was any good.

Jones was a similar player at Sydney. Swap them.

 

[PostmanBish]

Crazy if we even think about it especially bytel who provides nothing different to our midfield that we already have.

The one potential difference, after being starved of footy for much of the year, is he might bring a desire to win a spot for the rest of the season.

Reckon we could do worse, if Ross is not good to go.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Like for like in speed and dash but oh boy the kicking skill differential is a problem

So its poorer delivery out of the backline V better delivery into the forward half.

 

[lewdogs]

Call me crazy but I want to see us win the next two and get back in the hunt. Most likely it sets us up for more disappointment, but more must-win games against good opposition later in the year should be what the group is aiming for, and hopefully some redemption.

The Eagles are putrid this year and their home form is shocking. I just read Kelly has a corkie. No Nic Nat. Honestly we should put them to the sword, make the most of an opportunity to flog them if nothing else god knows they'd do the same to us given the chance.

 

[Mowman]

Call me crazy but I want to see us win the next two and get back in the hunt. Most likely it sets us up for more disappointment, but more must-win games against good opposition later in the year should be what the group is aiming for, and hopefully some redemption.

The Eagles are putrid this year and their home form is shocking. I just read Kelly has a corkie. No Nic Nat. Honestly we should put them to the sword, make the most of an opportunity to flog them if nothing else god knows they'd do the same to us given the chance.

You're crazy

 

[Mowman]

Call me crazy but I want to see us win the next two and get back in the hunt. Most likely it sets us up for more disappointment, but more must-win games against good opposition later in the year should be what the group is aiming for, and hopefully some redemption.

I and I think everyone on here wants to win the remaining 5 games

But whats been going on the last 5 weeks its not happening