Preview Round 7, 2023: St.Kilda v Port Adelaide - Marvel Stadium, Friday 28th April, 7:50PM AEST *WOOD 100TH*

[Diehard Saint]

I’m a Port Supporter. I think that’s obvious.
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Can we trade?

That’d be a definite no!

 

[my name was taken]

Pou is more of a marking threat than Billings so until Max comes back he's got that going for him

plus drills goals from 50m set shots

 

[stavro#4]

Wait a second... Did you miss the Carlton game? He was one of our best players.
So he responds after a poor game with a very good one and now you want to drop him. Very confusing.

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Win a few games and people think you can drop everyone and blokes need a rest after 6 games etc.

The truth is that Ross keeps those out of the side hungry like starving dogs for a spot in the 22.

Those in are safe for as long as they perform and we win.

The only automatic change we probably make is King for Cordy. Outside of that it’s going to be dictated by form and outcomes.

 

[Max the great]

I think Zac is a mid so might need to push Hunter Clark out. Billings wing or HFF probably needs Phillipou to drop away or an injury. Don't think either are walk up inclusions at the moment.

Hunter has been awesome this season. Jones isn't half the player he is. Absolutely no hope he takes Hunters spot.

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[TheOsprey]

To be fair, Brisbane were well off their best that day, we were switched right up, was ass more than class.
I’d actually rate your mob more than Brisbane this year from what I’ve seen.
And considering the effort we brought out last week, do that this Friday, and it will get ugly for us. Also Marshall, our dead eye dick being out, as well as dixon, we lose that forward grunt and goal scoring capability. (Jonas out is an advantage, he’s cooked and sad as it is, hope he stays out of the team. Farrel we can cover, although I like him and his beautiful kick in the team. Georgiades is unfortunate, he’s an excellent young player and he would have been in if not for his injury).

I wouldn’t blame injuries for this lose though, i just don’t trust our team to bring effort each week. We are due for a rubbish game right about now.
Our only hope is that the trio of Rozee, butters and JHF put on a midfield masterclass and blow you away in the Center and for us not to need to rely on Aliir to intercept every entry, he can only do so much.

It’s a weird spot you guys are in, the way you are tracking you are playing well and should play finals but I also agree with the general consensus of your fans that Hinkley has had his time and doubt he has it in him to be your next premiership coach.

The players seem to buy in and are playing for him though.

Where do you think he you need to finish for him to save his job?

I think it will be a pretty close game on Friday. We’ve had 1 day less turnaround but you guys have to travel so prob evens out.

Aliir has been in great form, wouldn’t be surprised if we stick someone close to him, like Cordy, to try and bring as much to the ground as possible.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Think he should be the sub.

Perfect way to ease him back into it.

Expect Pou will stay in at least until Max and Hammer come back, unless he’s spent. His ability to contest in the air is important and his pressure numbers have been 45-50 the last 3 weeks at least, which is very good.

I was going to say but that way he only gets a qtr. but of course Sandy has the first of 13 byes, so probably a good suggestion.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Hunter has been awesome this season. Jones isn't half the player he is. Absolutely no hope he takes Hunters spot.

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Absolutely.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Except Pou is doing it for a side currently top.

Billings did it for a side rock bottom.

So under pinning the numbers would be the weight in outcomes and Pou is miles ahead.

What? On what planet is it “miles” easier to get a kick in a forward line of the bottom team than in the forwardline of the top team?

Just because Billings hasn’t gone on to reach the heights he looked like he could doesn’t mean he wasn’t every bit as good in his first year as Pou has been this year.

Pou certainly hasn’t had a game the equivalent of 25 disposals (@100% efficiency- the most anyone had had at 100% at the time) and 3 goals.

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

I’m a Port Supporter. I think that’s obvious.
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Can we trade?

How about after the saints win a flag, trade an Assistant Coach for Jason Cripps...win win

 

[aussierulesrules]

This is extraordinary. In no world is Jones an upgrade on Brynes.
We are better off going forward if Jones is never required to play again.

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I don’t agree and you use massive hyperbole when it comes to Zac, but I know it’s completely and utterly futile to argue with you about anything, so I’ll leave it at that.

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

I’m a Port Supporter. I think that’s obvious.
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Can we trade?

Every Port supporting mate I have, agree's with your sentiment, A taxi driver I met about 3 weeks ago reckon's they should have gotten rid of him 6 years ago.

 

[stavro#4]

What? On what planet is it “miles” easier to get a kick in a forward line of the bottom team than in the forwardline of the top team?

Just because Billings hasn’t gone on to reach the heights he looked like he could doesn’t mean he wasn’t every bit as good in his first year as Pou has been this year.

Pou certainly hasn’t had a game the equivalent of 25 disposals (@100% efficiency- the most anyone had had at 100% at the time) and 3 goals.

If their stats are comparable (which is how you based your argument) - which player is having the greater impact during their first year?

I’ll go slightly further and point out that Billings played in 6 wins in his opening 25 games. Pou has played in 5 wins in his first 6.

With the likes of King Membrey Steele Ross Webster Jones Billings all missing games during Pous first 6 wins.

Stats might be comparable. But the impact/influence isn’t.

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

I was going to say but that way he only gets a qtr. but of course Sandy has the first of 13 byes, so probably a good suggestion.

Give him 2 quarters

 

[Bertha]

I’m a Port Supporter. I think that’s obvious.
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Can we trade?

Hahaha, yeah for 14 firsts

 

[Max the great]

I don’t agree and you use massive hyperbole when it comes to Zac, but I know it’s completely and utterly futile to argue with you about anything, so I’ll leave it at that.

Call me out on hyperbole and then do the same referencing what it's like discussing something with me. Interesting.
Jones is easily the most overrated player on our list by our fan base. He has a borderline negative effect on games with how poor he uses the pill and how badly he disappears in games. I think it's also a misconception that he is hard. Loves to hit blokes when he has the opportunity but rarely puts himself in harm's way.
Half the reason we have been so good this year is because of the hunger our young guys are showing. I just find it bizzare that the majority on here want to replace these developing kids who are more than doing there job with average footballers just because they have experience.

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[aussierulesrules]

If their stats are comparable (which is how you based your argument) - which player is having the greater impact during their first year?

I’ll go slightly further and point out that Billings played in 6 wins in his opening 25 games. Pou has played in 5 wins in his first 6.

With the likes of King Membrey Steele Ross Webster Jones Billings all missing games during Pous first 6 wins.

Stats might be comparable. But the impact/influence isn’t.

I completely disagree. You put 2014 Billings into this team and he’d be going every bit as well as Pou is. He was bloody good until he got Richoed.

You seem to be suggesting that Pou is the key reason that we’re 5 from 6 and that Billings was a key reason we finished bottom. Consequently making it very hard for me to take your argument seriously.

I only posted the stats comparison because they backed up my opinion. They weren’t the basis of my argument.

 

[Mowman]

for years we have wanted good kids and complained about not playing the ones we had

we are winning have kids playing and playing well and now we want to rest them

 

[Ads734]

I completely disagree. You put 2014 Billings into this team and he’d be going every bit as well as Pou is. He was bloody good until he got Richoed.

You seem to be suggesting that Pou is the key reason that we’re 5 from 6 and that Billings was a key reason we finished bottom. Consequently making it very hard for me to take your argument seriously.

I only posted the stats comparison because they backed up my opinion. They weren’t the basis of my argument.

I think the Pou has displayed more X factor attributes already. Billings had some amazing games. Also think the Pou shoes some of the intangibles like the confidence and ‘give it to me’ type attitude.

 

[Max the great]

for years we have wanted good kids and complained about not playing the ones we had

we are winning have kids playing and playing well and now we want to rest him

It's madness isn't it. If the team was selected here it would be

Out Gresh, Brynes, Poo, Clark
In Billings, Jones, Campbell, Dmac

Coming off a very good win.

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[gringo2011]

plus drills goals from 50m set shots

Iceman versus mental freezing in front of goal. Every game we invest in Phillipou is going to bring a return quicker. Billings is a known quantity that deserves a chance to prove himself in a better system but he's owed nothing at this point. He's been an okay player but hardly earned first picked honours. I see no reason to dump some hardworking kid for him. Sub seems an okay role for him. If someone goes down he can come in and prove himself.

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

Call me out on hyperbole and then do the same referencing what it's like discussing something with me. Interesting.
Jones is easily the most overrated player on our list by our fan base. He has a borderline negative effect on games with how poor he uses the pill and how badly he disappears in games. I think it's also a misconception that he is hard. Loves to hit blokes when he has the opportunity but rarely puts himself in harm's way.
Half the reason we have been so good this year is because of the hunger our young guys are showing. I just find it bizzare that the majority on here want to replace these developing kids who are more than doing there job with average footballers just because they have experience.

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I think Billings would make the team betterand so would Max

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

I also think the pou's handballing abilities in close are severely underated

 

[Mowman]

It's madness isn't it. If the team was selected here it would be

Out Gresh, Brynes, Poo, Clark
In Billings, Jones, Campbell, Dmac

Coming off a very good win.

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Billings has had 8 + years to proof himself

Every game we get into Owens - Pou - Windy is only taking the club forward

 

[gringo2011]

Hunter has been awesome this season. Jones isn't half the player he is. Absolutely no hope he takes Hunters spot.

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At the moment Hunter is owning his spot. Jones is going to have displace a player who is performing in a winning side. It's not a good time to be outside the playing 22.

 

[stavro#4]

I completely disagree. You put 2014 Billings into this team and he’d be going every bit as well as Pou is. He was bloody good until he got Richoed.

You seem to be suggesting that Pou is the key reason that we’re 5 from 6 and that Billings was a key reason we finished bottom. Consequently making it very hard for me to take your argument seriously.

I only posted the stats comparison because they backed up my opinion. They weren’t the basis of my argument.

As I’ve already pointed out to you.

2 blokes with the same stats, yet one side is bottom and the others side is top - highlights that they aren’t having the same output.

Phillipou is actively contributing to our side. A side that top of the tree.

We have so far seen him as a marking forward. A winger. An on baller .

if you can’t see that - then your point means very little.

Pou is going better than Billings at the same mark in their careers.

Also, the fact as supporters we keep referencing these amazing one off games from JB - should highlight how disappointing he has been over the journey.