Review Round 7- Review/Rant megathread

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It is really funny reading posts on this forum questioning players ability who are new to the game, for example Cordy,Willis, Smith, Dickinson,Roughhead, may I be bold enough to suggest that you wait until they have played 50 games plus before the assasination begins.Then there are the ones who attack the kids at Williamstown,Tallia, Roberts,Pearce,Redpath,Jong, all have just started playing seniors and are performing really well, fair go. Then to top it off a MOD, on here asks the question after a great win should we look at trading Will Minson, may I suggest to him that is not very smart post.
 

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It is really funny reading posts on this forum questioning players ability who are new to the game, for example Cordy,Willis, Smith, Dickinson,Roughhead, may I be bold enough to suggest that you wait until they have played 50 games plus before the assasination begins.Then there are the ones who attack the kids at Williamstown,Tallia, Roberts,Pearce,Redpath,Jong, all have just started playing seniors and are performing really well, fair go. Then to top it off a MOD, on here asks the question after a great win should we look at trading Will Minson, may I suggest to him that is not very smart post.
And here you are acting like a child again.

Let's face the facts, Minson is in very good form right now and in a contract year and as an unrestricted free agent. There are plenty of teams that would be looking at a new first ruck so they would float a fair offer to Minson to sign with them.
 
It is really funny reading posts on this forum questioning players ability who are new to the game, for example Cordy,Willis, Smith, Dickinson,Roughhead, may I be bold enough to suggest that you wait until they have played 50 games plus before the assasination begins.Then there are the ones who attack the kids at Williamstown,Tallia, Roberts,Pearce,Redpath,Jong, all have just started playing seniors and are performing really well, fair go. Then to top it off a MOD, on here asks the question after a great win should we look at trading Will Minson, may I suggest to him that is not very smart post.

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I know Higgins has suffered much from injury and perhaps he is nursing himself through the season to build continuity and form. However, he is timid in the contest. He refuses to try to take a mark out front with his hands. Shaun has an abundance of ability but is playing way within himself whether because he is afraid of injury or he lacks confidence. Either way, his current method will almost certainly get him injured. He needs to have a long hard think about his game and rediscover his decision making: when to go in hard and when to not.

Hargrave is much the same as Shaun - very timid. This is less about injury than that he has not had anyone tell him it is unacceptable. For so long we have had an undersized defense and as an almost tall he has known he would continue to get games on the back of questionable effort. Time must be up for this approach. He does not have the evasiveness or the quality of delivery of a Murphy to be an outside defender. He needs to start making body contact in contested situations and he needs find some presence of mind in pressure situation and take that split second to look for a target rather than continuing with his all too common clanger kicks.


But hey, I am happy

These are very interesting observations.

Higgins was nearly knocked out cold after "approaching" a contest and then clashing heads with Firrito, went off the ground and came back on. Also kicked his second goal working in tandem with another "soft" & "indecisive" player in Guido for a crumbing goal.

Hargrave had 20+ possies at 80+% efficiency rate.

But hey, that's what I saw and read.
 
I had dire concerns for Hargrave after 2 awful seasons in '10 & '11, but there's little doubt he's been in our best 7-8 players this year. He's mostly abandoned the "blind bomb out of defence" tactic he'd adopted and is playing with poise (mostly). He's been out-sized a few times and has competed well, too.

Good win yesterday. I thought if North were at any level of seriousness they'd pull away, but we exposed them for the mentally-weak frontrunners they are. They won't finish too much higher than us based on what they've shown and I can't see them ever challenging for even top 4 with their current list. Hilarious to watch.
 
My critique of Shaggy is that he's good while the others around him are doing well.. When thats not the case, he doesnt stand up all too often and seems shy of contest.

Not a player known to break through the lines and he tends to spend too much time waiting for something to happen, rather than bust down the doors and make it happen.
 
It did take Hargrave about about 7 or 8 seasons before he started playing good footy consistently. Not a knock because at his best he was All-Australian but he has never been the most gifted player. His form at the moment is actually pretty good in my opinion and will only get better with Marko, Williams, Morris, Wood, Gilbee (Or any combination of those guys) around him.
 
What I like is that in Austin, Markovic and Williams, we are developing options to cover genuine tall forwards. This has a domino effect of allowing Hargrave and Morris to play in their weight division which they have shown to be dominant in. This in turn will allow Murphy to go forward if required.

Its amazing how optimistic you become after a win :)
 
It actually was a pretty typical display by the dogs. Like in almost all games bar one this season we had periods of domination, we held our own or won the contested footy and the disposal count. Our inside 50's were high.

But didn't score commensurate to our domination and therefore kept them in it. As per normal.

We converted much better this week and we didn't butcher the ball as much, though Boydy at 50% DE was trying hard .....but gee I love the man!

Griff killed them. Lake was simply amazing. How many times have we seen Petrie do a number on us, but yesterday Lake's ability to mark the footy was breath taking at times.

We do have some players out of course for all sorts of reasons and yet our numbers are good. We still need that touch of class in forward line, but no Cooney, Jones, Morris, Williams/Markovic, Wood, or Gilbee meant that Austin, Cordy, Veszpremi, Dickson and Smith got a valuable game into them.

I thought Cords showed another glimpse. He took an equal game high of 4 contested marks, plus a few party tricks. Shame that pick up off the ground at full tilt didn't end up with a much better handball though. Still good to see a guy at 200cm do that.

Dickson impressed too. Couple of times he completely out pointed his Norf defender. He’s a good set shot too.

Wallis and Liberatore just building. Thought Wallis was very good.

Of the old guard, Higgins had a nearly game, nearly took that mark, nearly got that free, Nearly kicked that goal, and nearly got knocked out. Some good signs though.

Sherman was good, then bad, then good....Cross was Cross, except the intercept goal....very unlike Crossy....not the brave bit, but the finish, great to see.

Special mention to that little terrier in Picken. He copped it all day, but he stuck at it and once again shut out Harvey. I said pre game he has to be stopped.....he was.
 
These are very interesting observations.

Higgins was nearly knocked out cold after "approaching" a contest and then clashing heads with Firrito, went off the ground and came back on. Also kicked his second goal working in tandem with another "soft" & "indecisive" player in Guido for a crumbing goal.

Hargrave had 20+ possies at 80+% efficiency rate.

But hey, that's what I saw and read.

Yebiga's comments about Higgins and Hargrave are way over the top. Timid? Playing Aussie Football? I don't know what some people expect :confused:.

Macartney was asked something about Higgins in the post-match interview. Without being able to hear what was asked, I assume it was along the lines of comments made by knockers on this forum. He looked very displeased and replied that he was aware of the criticism, didn't understand what it was all about, and that Higgins is doing what is asked of him plus is a very good team man who mentors the younger players. So go argue with the coach :mad:.
 

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My critique of Shaggy is that he's good while the others around him are doing well.. When thats not the case, he doesnt stand up all too often and seems shy of contest.

Not a player known to break through the lines and he tends to spend too much time waiting for something to happen, rather than bust down the doors and make it happen.

He has his shortcomings but I think he's massively under-rated. Who else looked at the line-up at the beginning of the game, saw Shaggy lining up on the ruckman and thought "here we go"?

I don't agree that he necessarily needs others around him playing well but he does play particularly well when he can combine with his fellow defenders. We have a considerably weaker defence when he is not out there IMO.
 
Austin sounded the goods yesterday, only managed to watch highlights but listened all game radio, did the excellent job on edwards :thumbsu:
 
Just been watching the game, and I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but with 1 minute to go in the 3rd quarter, on our half forward flank, Roughead makes a great tackle on Anthony who was able to handball it to Delaney, and while on the ground, Roughead dives and tackles him too.

Delaney was able to get the ball out by a handball, but regardless, that is the sort of determination Macca would love to see. Great play by Roughy.
 
Just been watching the game, and I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but with 1 minute to go in the 3rd quarter, on our half forward flank, Roughead makes a great tackle on Anthony who was able to handball it to Delaney, and while on the ground, Roughead dives and tackles him too.

Delaney was able to get the ball out by a handball, but regardless, that is the sort of determination Macca would love to see. Great play by Roughy.
I was very impressed by Roughys defensive efforts. Equal highest tackles for the team alongside Wallis and Dickson and equal second on ground behind Andrew Swallow. It's even more impressive coming from a 200cm kid.
 
FWIW I am Higgins harshest critic and reckon his season is going along reasonably well. If he stays fwd, he'll end up off my hit list. He can play, its never been in doubt.
 
A couple of images that will hopefully become the norm in the next 10 years.

Rough reeling in a pack mark.
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Wallis tackling like a madman
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That was a great photo on the back page of the Herald Sun today. Wallis gritting his teeth in a flying tackle. Love that kid! :)
 
That was a great photo on the back page of the Herald Sun today. Wallis gritting his teeth in a flying tackle. Love that kid! :)

I enjoyed that one too. Just watched the replay, Wallis is a tackling machine.
 
Black pup, since when can Mods not have an opinion? I certainly don't agree with it, but it was a good point re Minson. Everyone has their price, in Minson's case it was a bag of chips at end of 2010. Lucky Eade is gone now and Bluey got it woefully wrong.
 
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