Round 9: St Kilda vs Sydney

[Confuscius]

Lol.

Mate if you honestly don't understand how profound an influence on a game goodes can have you've been living under a rock for 10 years

Yeah keep saying that whilst you completely dismiss the influence a multiple AA and B&F winner would have won.

Neither played, get over it. Saints are the better side.

 

[WASaintsFan08]

Lol.

Mate if you honestly don't understand how profound an influence on a game goodes can have you've been living under a rock for 10 years

if you dont understand that fisher sets up all our play off half back.. stopping multiple goals we'd conceed otherwise.... and completely opening up our midfield.. then youve been living under a rock

as for most complete player? I've always found him like judd over rated. Yes they can do good things but they do a standard kick after coming off the interchange and "only goodes can do that" (and they say it with goddard aswell) pretty sure i watch the same play with the same effect every single game =\

if you want to stick with your dream then go ahead but speaking of cold hard facts.... goodes is out, you lost. IF you cant beat a St kilda side on the decline without 2 players, then you wont get very far come finals

 

[Gooback22]

Thread needs a name change I think. Didn't think Swans supporters were like this.

 

[Morris Major]

can anyone who's decent at photoshop chuck a saints guernsey on this?

 

[balldman]

The HTB rule is a weird one. You can just drop the ball or throw it forward without even attempting to dispose of it, but if you're tackled whilst attempting to kick it properly, immediate HTB

What so weird about it?If you're in possession of the ball & you attempt to get rid of it, by a drop or throw, it isn't HTB, its incorrect disposal.If youre tackled attempting to kick( & I presume you mean that you don't actually make contact by way of a kick), its an obvious incorrect disposal.
its all open to interpretation as to how long one has & given to time it would take to attempt a handball as opposed to a kick it is those few milliseconds thatcan be the difference.
Then you add in the time it takes for the umpire to blow the decision.
Often I see them blow the decision almost similtaneously the player disposes of it & that can really rile supporters.

 

[Jeebus]

if you dont understand that fisher sets up all our play off half back.. stopping multiple goals we'd conceed otherwise.... and completely opening up our midfield.. then youve been living under a rock

as for most complete player? I've always found him like judd over rated. Yes they can do good things but they do a standard kick after coming off the interchange and "only goodes can do that" (and they say it with goddard aswell) pretty sure i watch the same play with the same effect every single game =\

if you want to stick with your dream then go ahead but speaking of cold hard facts.... goodes is out, you lost. IF you cant beat a St kilda side on the decline without 2 players, then you wont get very far come finals

Won a brownlow as a ruckman- check
Won a brownlow as a midfielder- check
Swans leading goalkicker multiple times- check

Can't get more complete than that.

If you honestly think fisher n mcevoy are close to goodes and Mumford then give me a hit of the crack you're smoking as it must be good stuff.

Most complete player of all time.

 

[AG]

You're underrating McEvoy and Fisher a fair bit but no idea what the point of this argument is.

 

[Morris Major]

You're underrating McEvoy and Fisher a fair bit but no idea what the point of this argument is.

he reckons Goodes was the difference between the teams tonight

 

[EddieMurphy]

he reckons Goodes was the difference between the teams tonight

Yeh, there are some Swans tools here, lets stop pandering to their attention seeking deflections from their teams loss...

 

[Jeebus]

he reckons Goodes was the difference between the teams tonight

He may have been he may not.

Fact is goodes is in the absolute elite class of players who is capable of turning a game in a short period of time. An Injection of goodes in the midfield or forward line when needed has won us dozens of games over the years.

If he played today He may have done it again. Not saying he def would but too suggest he would have absolutely no influence on a game that was decided by 28 points is extremely ignorant to his match turning abilities.

 

[EddieMurphy]

He may have been he may not.

Fact is goodes is in the absolute elite class of players who is capable of turning a game in a short period of time. An Injection of goodes in the midfield or forward line when needed has won us dozens of games over the years.

If he played today He may have done it again. Not saying he def would but too suggest he would have absolutely no influence on a game that was decided by 28 points is extremely ignorant to his match turning abilities.

The way you are talking makes it sound like the only reason you lost was your outs? Is Goodes out of Sydney a bigger impact than Gabblet out of GC? Really? How below average are most of the Sydney players if they need a better player than Gabblet to have any chance of winning?

 

[Confuscius]

What so weird about it?If you're in possession of the ball & you attempt to get rid of it, by a drop or throw, it isn't HTB, its incorrect disposal.If youre tackled attempting to kick( & I presume you mean that you don't actually make contact by way of a kick), its an obvious incorrect disposal.
its all open to interpretation as to how long one has & given to time it would take to attempt a handball as opposed to a kick it is those few milliseconds thatcan be the difference.
Then you add in the time it takes for the umpire to blow the decision.
Often I see them blow the decision almost similtaneously the player disposes of it & that can really rile supporters.

Incorrect disposal is rarely paid now days though.

I guess I meant it in that players don't even try to move it on, just drop it cold and it's play on more often than not.

Whereas the one that made me was where Milne tackled the Swans player who was genuinely trying to kick it, but the tackle made him miss the ball with his kick and got pinged. I'd rather players attempting to legally dispose the ball let go over those who are dropping it or throwing it forward.

It's just the amount of times I see players not even trying to possess the ball just throwing it forward let go is frustrating me

 

[balldman]

Incorrect disposal is rarely paid now days though.

I guess I meant it in that players don't even try to move it on, just drop it cold and it's play on more often than not.

Whereas the one that made me was where Milne tackled the Swans player who was genuinely trying to kick it, but the tackle made him miss the ball with his kick and got pinged. I'd rather players attempting to legally dispose the ball let go over those who are dropping it or throwing it forward.

It's just the amount of times I see players not even trying to possess the ball just throwing it forward let go is frustrating me

I long for the day when a holding the ball decision is paid against the player holding the ball to another player.Hate seeing them paid & its being held into the contest.

 

[Jeebus]

The way you are talking makes it sound like the only reason you lost was your outs? Is Goodes out of Sydney a bigger impact than Gabblet out of GC? Really? How below average are most of the Sydney players if they need a better player than Gabblet to have any chance of winning?

Wow.
You're a few french fries short of a happy meal aren't you.

 

[goodie23]

He may have been he may not.

Fact is goodes is in the absolute elite class of players who is capable of turning a game in a short period of time. An Injection of goodes in the midfield or forward line when needed has won us dozens of games over the years.

If he played today He may have done it again. Not saying he def would but too suggest he would have absolutely no influence on a game that was decided by 28 points is extremely ignorant to his match turning abilities.

In this fictional, pixie timeline, do the Saints get any players back or does the universe solely warp to benefit the Swans?

In any event, Goodes didn't play, so he couldn't influence the match. Even if he did, he could've tipped the match in the Swans favour or that beat of a butterfly's wings could result in the Swans losing by 10 goals. It's all academic.

 

[Jeebus]

In this fictional, pixie timeline, do the Saints get any players back or does the universe solely warp to benefit the Swans?

In any event, Goodes didn't play, so he couldn't influence the match. Even if he did, he could've tipped the match in the Swans favour or that beat of a butterfly's wings could result in the Swans losing by 10 goals. It's all academic.

Some of you saints fans really need to learn how to read.

 

[goodie23]

Some of you saints fans really need to learn how to read.

Ah, so in your fictional, pixie universe it is all about the Swans. Thank you for your answer.

 

[EddieMurphy]

Wow.
You're a few french fries short of a happy meal aren't you.

A nutter calling out a sane man, nice try...

 

[LordJimmy]

I briefly skimmed over this thread but please someone tell me that Swans fan up there wasn't seriously suggesting Goodes would have had any impact at all in this game.

We are missing the best defensive player in the competition, our only two ruckmen and a star small forward. Please stop.

If I could, I'd let you have Goodes back in return for Fisher. Then we'd win by even more.

 

[Falchoon]

Injury excuses on Bigfooty? perish the thought

 

[LordJimmy]

The HTB rule is a weird one. You can just drop the ball or throw it forward without even attempting to dispose of it, but if you're tackled whilst attempting to kick it properly, immediate HTB

Sydney rules. They play rugby. It's to make the brand more appealing in the NSW market.

Goodes v Fisher
Mumford v McEvoy

You tell me who the better two players are. To equate the injuries as equal is disrespectful.

1. Fisher by a long margin.
2. 50/50.

Disrespect? You support Sydney. That act in itself is virtually a hate crime against this sport.

 

[Tragic sainter]

You can have goodes and Mumford if we can have fisher, Stanley, mcevoy, and schneider back. Stanley and mcevoy are more important than Mumford as we have no backup in the ruck and you do. We have to change our whole structure do cover our outs. Anyways the scoreboard flattered you we smashed you.

 

[Tragic sainter]

Wow.
You're a few french fries short of a happy meal aren't you.

The offended is strong in this one.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Just gotten back from the match.

Really pleasantly surprised at how much of a destroyation the 2nd and 3rd quarters were, before we either ran out of puff (after consecutive 6 day breaks and a game in hot weather in Perth last week) or took the foot off the gas in the last (preparing for another 6 day break this week).

The ball basically spent those middle two quarters in our forward half and it was only our dreadful kicking for goal in that time that stopped it being an annihilation.

Either Sydney have really dropped off in recent weeks, Goodes is worth about 6 others, or we're close to top 4 ourselves again now.

 

[LordJimmy]

Or: Sydney aren't anywhere near as good as they get credit for being.

I know what I believe.