Rumour Rumors of cat player in big trouble

[ShadowCat]

The fake finger injury Geelong have made up for him is absolutely pathetic. This is why people question the injury lists and players sitting out with mental health issues. Everyone knows the clubs consistently lie about these things

Legitimate question? What would you suggest they do in this circumstance? Because his finger was in a splint, so there's at least deniability. At the worst the AFL fines them. If they just remove him from any club photos, training etc. it becomes obvious, questions are asked, and they likely unwittingly violate the court suppression order. The fine from the AFL is nothing compared to what an organization violating a court order would look like.

I do agree that injury lists are complete bull though. Cam Guthrie vanished for half the year last year, before he even got a mention. We all knew he was a write off, but the club played the game. All clubs do it, and 'TBC' is just another way around that.

This situation feels different though. Legitimately don't know what they could have done.

 

[dmc333]

If it is its an odd one as it's still listed.

Same happened with the Bruce Lehrmann Toowoomba case, although they got that down pretty quickly.

I'm guessing the media's probably first trying to verify if it should be up before reporting on it.

 

[ShadowCat]

This has to have been some administrative error

The info is there for attendees to be able to search when their court dates are. Looks like someone figured out they can search his name in the correct court, and that information would pop up. I don't know if that was suppressed earlier, but it's absolutely there now - and literally anyone with half a brain can go from the Geelong Magistrates page and do it themselves.

Social media and forums will run with this very shortly, and then it's game over. This website has at least 10,000 people on a given day...there'd already be hundreds that would have this info and be sharing it. Regardless of if it's an error or not, once something is out on the internet - it's out. There's no deniability anymore.

 

[MisterMarcus]

I think anyone point scoring on this stuff would have to be kids. I can't imagine who else would be so immature and lacking perspective

You can totally picture a couple of posters in this thread with EDGELORD2008 written on their forehead in sharpie….

 

[Atomboy]

The info is there for attendees to be able to search when their court dates are. Looks like someone figured out they can search his name in the correct court, and that information would pop up. I don't know if that was suppressed earlier, but it's absolutely there now - and literally anyone with half a brain can go from the Geelong Magistrates page and do it themselves.

Social media and forums will run with this very shortly, and then it's game over. This website has at least 10,000 people on a given day...there'd already be hundreds that would have this info and be sharing it. Regardless of if it's an error or not, once something is out on the internet - it's out. There's no deniability anymore.

Think the Cats will now come out with a statement or will they just ignore ?.

 

[Pooks]

Same happened with the Bruce Lehrmann Toowoomba case

This is exactly what I was thinking of but it has happened with other cases in the past too.. though I'm sure the other examples I could think of were nowhere near as noteworthy and Bruce Lehrmann and our particular case in point.

 

[BF Tiger]

Does it give you some sort of sick pleasure BF Tiger? Is that why you're laughing at my post and sharing your shit posts with images? I do not understand why people can't put petty f*cking footy rivalries aside to actually give a shit about human beings, for a change.

State of the world I guess. Everything is tribal. Everything is a joke. Even serious crimes such as these. Good job on your internet 'win' I guess.

We're all humans. And here you are not giving a shit about me. I've explained before that you don't know me and my motivations. Until you do then maybe STFU with your moral policing of my posting.

 

[Bald]

Think the Cats will now come out with a statement or will they just ignore ?.

I was sent a screen shot yesterday, so I went on and checked and it wasn't showing at all (I was suspicious of the screen shot because it did look like it had been edited).

I then saw the screen shot in here that was posted today and assumed it was fake and when I was about to call it out for being fake I thought I'd check again and this time his name was there.

It's a system I'm relatively familiar with and I did double and triple check when sent the screen shot yesterday.

 

[ShadowCat]

Think the Cats will now come out with a statement or will they just ignore ?.

It's not widespread enough for anything to be said. I imagine by midday tomorrow though, it will be. They'll have to say something then. Only way I can't see that happening, is if the suppression order on the media miraculously remains, and the media actually can't ask questions...even though the entire internet will have access to the information.

Very strange situation, and one I don't think I've seen before. Whoever let this info come to light via making the info visible on the Magistrates site, is a moron. Could have a marked effect on the case itself - which I really hope it doesn't, given what's at stake...for both parties.

 

[Willo_]

Think the Cats will now come out with a statement or will they just ignore ?.

I have no knowledge of the court system at all... So maybe this is an ignorant question.. But are they even allowed to?

 

[Aura]

I'm really not sure where the whole 'Richmond are jealous of us' thing comes from for Geelong supporters. Why would Richmond be jealous of Geelong when they have more premierships than Geelong and 3 in the last 10 years compared to 1?

Nine of their thirteen premierships came after defeating us in finals, so I fail to see the logic either.

 

[Pooks]

Legitimately don't know what they could have done.

There's nothing they could have done without further legally implicating the individual. There is risk for both the club and individual to manage both legal, reputational and personal. I'm sure all sides were counseled with competent legal advice.

The detractors of Geelong in this thread fail to understand or explain just why Geelong would want to strap themselves to an individual with this kind of legal and reputational risk. It would be hugely damaging to the club brand - it already is. What do Geelong gain by this? Nothing but increased risk and ire. They are just trying to manage their own risk while protecting the suppression orders.

When push comes to shove, they won't die on a hill for this individual. The extremely high burden of proof required to bring these kind of cases to court, let alone get a conviction means the risk for them is already extremely high.

 

[Celebrity 101]

Everyone knows it’s TB - you can see for yourself what’s available publicly on certain places but Geelong and the AFL are handicapped, they release his name and breach the suppression order - the whole case is stuffed.

There’s literally nothing else they can do.

For what the story is I’ve heard - he may well get off but his still put himself in the position. Have faith in the justice system of this country and let play out what will

 

[ShadowCat]

Everyone knows it’s Tanner - you can see for yourself what’s available publicly on certain places but Geelong and the AFL are handicapped, they release his name and breach the suppression order - the whole case is stuffed.

There’s literally nothing else they can do.

For what the story is I’ve heard - he may well get off but his still put himself in the position. Have faith in the justice system of this country and let play out what will

I know you're a shit poster, but there's enough info there without you actually saying his name and getting yourself banned. I'd edit your post before you and it gets removed anyway.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

My understanding was he's still training with the group just not involved on match days.

Not according to my source

 

[Willo_]

I don't watch the news but apparently per our board there was footage of him at training, after the story broke.

Fwiw I was one that said that on our board... It was on ch10 news, BUT that's assuming the footage they declared as "Training today" actually was. Wouldn't be like news and media to recycle old footage.. So who knows

 

[Munich]

Everyone knows it’s TB - you can see for yourself what’s available publicly on certain places but Geelong and the AFL are handicapped, they release his name and breach the suppression order - the whole case is stuffed.

There’s literally nothing else they can do.

For what the story is I’ve heard - he may well get off but his still put himself in the position. Have faith in the justice system of this country and let play out what will

I've heard that as well.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Cat supporters on edge

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It's not widespread enough for anything to be said. I imagine by midday tomorrow though, it will be. They'll have to say something then. Only way I can't see that happening, is if the suppression order on the media miraculously remains, and the media actually can't ask questions...even though the entire internet will have access to the information.

Very strange situation, and one I don't think I've seen before. Whoever let this info come to light via making the info visible on the Magistrates site, is a f*cking moron. Could have a marked effect on the case itself - which I really hope it doesn't, given what's at stake...for both parties.

I don't think the club can make a media statement without breaching the order though can they?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

There's nothing they could have done without further legally implicating the individual. There is risk for both the club and individual to manage both legal, reputational and personal. I'm sure all sides were counseled with competent legal advice.

The detractors of Geelong in this thread fail to understand or explain just why Geelong would want to strap themselves to an individual with this kind of legal and reputational risk. It would be hugely damaging to the club brand - it already is. What do Geelong gain by this? Nothing but increased risk and ire. They are just trying to manage their own risk while protecting the suppression orders.

When push comes to shove, they won't die on a hill for this individual. The extremely high burden of proof required to bring these kind of cases to court, let alone get a conviction means the risk for them is already extremely high.

The majority of these cases don't result in conviction though (statistically).

 

[ShadowCat]

Cat supporters on edge

There's nothing to be on edge about. There's been suspicions on our board, but we all legitimately do not care who he is. If he's a criminal, we want our club to have nothing to do with him moving forward - and hope he's prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Maybe try and move past point scoring.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Cat supporters on edge

Not if they have Mitch Knevitt in their SuperCoach team.

 

[ShadowCat]

I don't think the club can make a media statement without breaching the order though can they?

I imagine if it enters the mainstream, as I'm suspecting it will overnight, that Twitter/X will grab a hold of it - and all journos will know. Then it will be a case of 'do you have anything to say regarding the rumours circulating on social media regarding one of your players.'

Even if the order somehow remains, the information will be everywhere by tomorrow/late tonight. They'll need to give some sort of response, even if not directly naming the player in question.

 

[Hoops]

It's very disappointing news, although not unexpected considering the rumours. However, I think it's quite distasteful to use a case of this nature for point-scoring among clubs.

reminds me of Dutton .

 

[Pooks]

The majority of these cases don't result in conviction though (statistically).

Yes, because the burden of proof is so high that they can't get to court. That it has a court hearing is serious indeed.

Attrition was highest during the police investigation stages of the justice system process, with police formally identifying an offender for half (48%) of the incidents reported and laying charges against half (52%) of those offenders they identified.
Rape incidents were the least likely to progress through the justice system, with 10% of rape incidents reported to police being proven in court, compared with 15% of indecent assault incidents.

Attrition of sexual offence incidents through the Victorian criminal justice system: 2021 update | Crime Statistics Agency Victoria

This research paper examines how many incidents of sexual offending progress through the justice system to be proven in court. It also examines the most common points that incidents 'exit' the justice system and the characteristics of incidents that progress through each stage.

www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au