Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

[Kurve]

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On the Greg Lynn committal proceedings Crown Prosecutor Mr Dickie said 'It is clear hopefully from the document, and if it's not clear from the document it's clear hopefully from the charges put before the court, that it is alleged of course that the accused acted with murderous intent when he allegedly killed the two victims.'

 

[Sir_Loin]

Very difficult to prove a negative.

Indirect evidence is admissible

 

[Sir_Loin]

Remember that someone found another drone and handed it in, but Police said it wasn't Hills.

Two drones potentially in the area then. There goes Terrafirma’s entire hypothesis

 

[Lady O]

Two drones potentially in the area then. There goes Terrafirma’s entire hypothesis

Oh well, there's always the loud music.

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

The mysterious 4wd dual cab ute owner / operator(s) is intriguing.


Correct me if I am wrong but I am sure I remember the police publicly trying to track down a white dual cab ute that was in the "Gatta at the time of the disappearance.

Yeh they did, it was the only real "lead" in the public domain for a long while, VicPol was sending a message along the lines of "plz contact us so we can remove you from the investigation".

It is super intriguing though, being parked right next to GL brings in a whole bunch of possibilities

 

[Zidane98]

Yeh they did, it was the only real "lead" in the public domain for a long while, VicPol was sending a message along the lines of "plz contact us so we can remove you from the investigation".

It is super intriguing though, being parked right next to GL brings in a whole bunch of possibilities

They obviously didnt bring a drone with them.....

 

[Kurve]

Did I see something about the bullet going straight through both, assuming Lynn is going to claim it was a one-shot accident that killed both? Forensics couldn't find a bullet/s?

It's not believable btw, he dug them out if the pathologist couldn't find any imo.

 

[Irma]

Remember that someone found another drone and handed it in, but Police said it wasn't Hills.

Did they really though? iirc that ‘drone’ was found around the anniversary date of Russell & Carol’s disappearance. Police announced a drone was found and handed in, then a few days later announced that it wasn’t Russell’s. It seemed to be weird timing. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if it were a made-up story to try and put pressure on the perpetrator to get nervous and panic, whether by saying something incriminating, or making a quick trip back to the high country.

It sounds like the police already had surveillance on Lynn at that stage. Anyway, just another theory, but it certainly wouldn’t be the first time the cops have used the media to put out a ‘story’ to try and evoke a reaction.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Did I see something about the bullet going straight through both, assuming Lynn is going to claim it was a one-shot accident that killed both? Forensics couldn't find a bullet/s?

It's not believable btw, he dug them out if the pathologist couldn't find any imo.

If he’s a deer hunter probably using .30+. Within a certain range that will go through two people no problem

 

[Awakening]

If you search dual cab on this thread you will see a number of posts and links to police looking for this vehicle.

 

[Irma]

Yeh they did, it was the only real "lead" in the public domain for a long while, VicPol was sending a message along the lines of "plz contact us so we can remove you from the investigation".

It is super intriguing though, being parked right next to GL brings in a whole bunch of possibilities

Like thinking that GL didn’t act alone? An accomplice? I’ve heard that theory before, and you’ve gotta wonder why he would be protecting them. Could also explain why he went north to Hotham instead of south via Dargo - didn’t want to be seen travelling together, one went one way, the other went the other way. Not sure I believe this but would be wild if true.

 

[Kurve]

Like thinking that GL didn’t act alone? An accomplice? I’ve heard that theory before, and you’ve gotta wonder why he would be protecting them. Could also explain why he went north to Hotham instead of south via Dargo - didn’t want to be seen travelling together, one went one way, the other went the other way. Not sure I believe this but would be wild if true.

Lynn used to go away on his own a lot apparently, he may have been having an affair. He could want to cover for the other person he was having an affair with, especially if they too were married.

I didn't see anything about how many sleeping tents were pitched for people in three vehicles.

 

[geoffjennings79]

So the whole drone story/theory could be a red herring? Or partly true but manipulated by police to flush GL out? There was obviously A drone flying that day, according to the sprayer, some doubt now it was RH's. Is it possible it was GL's, and RH complained about it? Either way GL would need to dispose of it, but possibly would leave a digital footprint on his phone, assuming that's how he controlled it? If he has a dedicated controller though, and didn't download footage to a phone or another device?

 

[geoffjennings79]

Lynn used to go away on his own a lot apparently, he may have been having an affair. He could want to cover for the other person he was having an affair with, especially if they too were married.

I didn't see anything about how many sleeping tents were pitched for people in three vehicles.

He certainly seems to have a history of relationships. Wife #1 died, was it ever confirmed about the death of his partner between wife #1 and the current wife?

 

[Terrafirma]

Two drones potentially in the area then. There goes Terrafirma’s entire hypothesis

I'll have Eye Fillet please..! To go with my drone theory. Perhaps the deer hunters use the drones to locate the deer Sir Loin.?

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

Like thinking that GL didn’t act alone? An accomplice? I’ve heard that theory before, and you’ve gotta wonder why he would be protecting them. Could also explain why he went north to Hotham instead of south via Dargo - didn’t want to be seen travelling together, one went one way, the other went the other way. Not sure I believe this but would be wild if true.

Who knows maybe, seems a stretch I agree, but VicPol were looking for a white ute seen in the area, probably safe to assume based on the hunters observations, which puts them at the scene.
The fact this request (which came at least 6 months into the investigation) hung around in the media for so long meant whoever was parked right next to GL hadn't contacted the cops, the obvious question is why?

 

[Lady O]

They obviously didnt bring a drone with them.....

Perhaps he sold it on Ebay before he left and bought Carol a nice brooch?

 

[Terrafirma]

Who knows maybe, seems a stretch I agree, but VicPol were looking for a white ute seen in the area, probably safe to assume based on the hunters observations, which puts them at the scene.
The fact this request (which came at least 6 months into the investigation) hung around in the media for so long meant whoever was parked right next to GL hadn't contacted the cops, the obvious question is why?

I can't be sure on this but just asking because I wonder if I read early on that the white ute seen was cleared of any involvement.?

 

[Terrafirma]

They obviously didnt bring a drone with them.....

Perhaps he sold it on Ebay before he left and bought Carol a nice brooch?

Let's not forget guys Russell had a drone called Ted and it was his favourite toy.! It would be foolish to say Hill didn't have the drone with him. Somebody was flying a drone we know that and I'm still tipping it was Hill's. And you all should remember Police are still looking for Russell's drone which was listed as missing along with his phone, boots and sleeping bag etc.

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Detectives are also keen to speak to anyone who was in the area of Howitt Plains and Zeka Spur Track on March 19 or 20, and the Wonnangatta Valley and Wonnangatta Station between March 20 and 24.

Investigators have been told that Hill took his drone with him but it is yet to be recovered.

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

Thinking about why GL went via Hotham and not Dargo...there are options to stay off the main roads going via Hotham, not really an option via the south.
Could be a psychological reaction and need to stay "hidden", or maybe he needed to dispose of other evidence deeper into the bush.

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

I can't be sure on this but just asking because I wonder if I read early on that the white ute seen was cleared of any involvement.?

Yeh that does sound familiar...but all that could mean is they stopped publicly looking for them, the cops have been manipulating the situation the whole way.
I still think it's very suss that it supposedly took over year for the white ute to come forward, anyone and everyone remotely connected to the high country knew about this case, let alone someone parked at the scene.

 

[Terrafirma]

So the whole drone story/theory could be a red herring? Or partly true but manipulated by police to flush GL out? There was obviously A drone flying that day, according to the sprayer, some doubt now it was RH's. Is it possible it was GL's, and RH complained about it? Either way GL would need to dispose of it, but possibly would leave a digital footprint on his phone, assuming that's how he controlled it? If he has a dedicated controller though, and didn't download footage to a phone or another device?

Sorry but Hill's drone was with him, his family confirmed this and it's one of the items Police are searching for, so you can call it a Red Herring if you like because nobody can confirm if it was Hill's drone but Police are looking for his drone, his mobile phone, his boots, his sleeping bag etc along with Clay's

Detectives are also keen to speak to anyone who was in the area of Howitt Plains and Zeka Spur Track on March 19 or 20, and the Wonnangatta Valley and Wonnangatta Station between March 20 and 24.

Investigators have been told that Hill took his drone with him but it is yet to be recovered.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

The alleged drone is a red herring. The question is did he kill them and if so how? Did he remove the bodies and bury them? Why, is interesting but not essential.

 

[Kurve]

I can't be sure on this but just asking because I wonder if I read early on that the white ute seen was cleared of any involvement.?

If the person/s in the white ute made themselves known, they should make an appearance

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Sorry but Hill's drone was with him, his family confirmed this and it's one of the items Police are searching for, so you can call it a Red Herring if you like because nobody can confirm if it was Hill's drone but Police are looking for his drone, his mobile phone, his boots, his sleeping bag etc along with Clay's

It’s a red herring insofar as it doesn’t affect the fact that these people were murdered. So they had a drone so what? The reason for the murders isn’t all that important, it’s just that everyone wants it explained.

 

[Terrafirma]

If the person/s in the white ute made themselves known, they should make an appearance

Strange though if they were there at the time they should be witnesses you'd think?