Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

[Kurve]

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The Murder of Rebecca Young - Ballarat

The Murder of Hannah McGuire - Ballarat * Lachie Young

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Allegedly

 

[thumbs_up]

Taking it seriously now, if it's in Queensland. They even sent a chopper up.

Women in Brisbane are increasingly concerned after reporting a series of targeted attacks on Mt Coot-tha walking trails

Police chopper used to search for man suspected of menacing women on Brisbane bush trail

A fourth report of women being maliciously targeted on Mt Coot-tha walking trails in Brisbane's west has prompted a broad police search that turned up no suspects.

www.abc.net.au

Murderystuffs work colleague?

 

[shorsky]

Sadly however there’s no further news on the search for SM. My heart breaks for her children, and I hope they can get some answers soon.

 

[Kurve]

Podcast.

The Search For Samantha - Missing Pieces

In this episode, Jake Cassar, an expert bushtracker, is in search for Samantha Murphy. With his deep knowledge of the wilderness, Cassar embarks on a challenging journey through dense forests to find clues about Samantha's disappearance. This episode explores both the physical search and the...

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[Kurve]

Podcast.

The Search For Samantha - Missing Pieces

In this episode, Jake Cassar, an expert bushtracker, is in search for Samantha Murphy. With his deep knowledge of the wilderness, Cassar embarks on a challenging journey through dense forests to find clues about Samantha's disappearance. This episode explores both the physical search and the...

omny.fm

Why the red thumbs down? You don't like it Sqotty from office works?

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Why the red thumbs down? You don't like it Sqotty from office works?

Involved in many search rescues and unfortunate retrievals and he goes against everything I know.
Think mr cassar is a toss bag who loves self promotion.
Ask him what happened on his little William search.
Hope you can't find a way to card me for that.

 

[31550]

Involved in many search rescues and unfortunate retrievals and he goes against everything I know.
Think mr cassar is a toss bag who loves self promotion.
Ask him what happened on his little William search.
Hope you can't find a way to card me for that.

He has had no success in well known or publicised cases. He is reported to have located an elderly missing man in NSW and a boy lost in the bush. Details of these cases do not seem to be publicly available, however.

 

[Kurve]

Involved in many search rescues and unfortunate retrievals and he goes against everything I know.
Think mr cassar is a toss bag who loves self promotion.
Ask him what happened on his little William search.
Hope you can't find a way to card me for that.

There's more than one episode in the podcast, the Digital Footprints episode is better.

 

[Kurve]

Ask him what happened on his little William search.

The cops couldn't find William either.

 

[Underarrest_]

The cops couldn't find William either.

and there was a lot more of them.

 

[CodyRose]

It’s a challenge to find a fresh perspective on what may’ve occurred from the time SM left home for her morning exercise session.

Approx 1 month after her disappearance, Police arrested a young man who they say deliberately murdered her at an area known as Mt Clear (to me it’s all about as Clear as Mud!)
PS had apparently been under secret surveillance for the preceding 2 weeks, but for reasons not made public, his arrest waited until 6 March, with an indication then given that he had killed her within an hour of her leaving home that morning.

Now, some 3.5 months after his arrest, and numerous police searches of surrounding areas, we are aware that :

• Samantha Murphy is still missing
• Police are in possession of her mobile phone
• Said phone is apparently functioning
• PS’s is remaining tight lipped
• Seems his family members have left town
• No one who knows PS or his family, is speaking publicly (rumoured comments but nothing specific either way)
• His next court date is 8th August
• PS has Paul Galbally, a high profile, high cost lawyer, in his corner

And that’s about the sum of it.

Despite the fact that here we have some of the world’s best sleuths delve into and analyse to the ent degree every imaginable possibility, including the weird, the wild & the wacky - I’m still searching for that something ‘concrete’, as currently things don’t gel for me.

If police had been watching the suspect for two weeks before Samantha went missing maybe he had made some threats on a disguised social platform.

 

[Percel]

If police had been watching the suspect for two weeks before Samantha went missing maybe he had made some threats on a disguised social platform.

Tell me more…

 

[31550]

If police had been watching the suspect for two weeks before Samantha went missing maybe he had made some threats on a disguised social platform.

But they hadn't. They apparently only started watching POS two weeks after SM disappeared.

 

[shorsky]

If police had been watching the suspect for two weeks before Samantha went missing maybe he had made some threats on a disguised social platform.

Please do elaborate CodyRose

 

[shorsky]

But they hadn't. They apparently only started watching POS two weeks after SM disappeared.

apparently so. .

I do wonder what tipped them off to start watching HIM, after 2 weeks of searching & investigating. For sure, as discussed, there’s any number of possibilities :

police questioning in the community may have highlighted concerns about POS and his activities around that time

family / partner may have noticed something of concern, be it behaviour, demeanour, or physical evidence

there’s always technology to factor in these days ! Possibly it took Police over a week to put a request to Telcos to provide data - and Lo & Behold, they find correlations between signals from the SIM allocated to POS & the one allocated to SM.

his work may have become compromised - although I’m sure I recall reading that on the Monday after, he was doing work at the school where his Mum worked

his vehicle may have shown up on cameras - if so, it would seem strange that a trace of it’s movements hasn’t led to her whereabouts

cross checks of police records may have highlighted the traffic offence (no doubt that forced the now pending charges, and gained the traffic officer a rap over the knuckles for his ‘oversight’) However, that may have also highlighted other areas of concern. Not sure if here or elsewhere that I read of a friendship between POS & son of an officer . ( at this moment, I’m feeling so very sad for so many people )

Presumably Police left POS to carry on as usual (under surveillance) in the hope that he’d somehow divulge SM’s whereabouts. …but that didn’t happen, and still hasn’t.

Which begs the big question

 

[31550]

I do wonder what tipped them off to start watching HIM, after 2 weeks of searching & investigating. For sure, as discussed, there’s any number of possibilities :

Most likely it was the collection and analysis of cell phone data which possibly put POS in the same location as SM at the time she is alleged to have been killed.
He may not have been the only person who came up in this analysis, and police may have been working on other 'more likely' leads (e.g. with some known connection to SM), or may have been looking for additional evidence which connected him with SM or the family, or the alleged scene, or perhaps other forensic evidence we don't know about.

 

[Flog111]

If police had been watching the suspect for two weeks before Samantha went missing maybe he had made some threats on a disguised social platform.

I think it was 2 weeks after mate. You may have got your wires crossed.

 

[Underarrest_]

apparently so. .

I do wonder what tipped them off to start watching HIM, after 2 weeks of searching & investigating. For sure, as discussed, there’s any number of possibilities :

police questioning in the community may have highlighted concerns about POS and his activities around that time

family / partner may have noticed something of concern, be it behaviour, demeanour, or physical evidence

there’s always technology to factor in these days ! Possibly it took Police over a week to put a request to Telcos to provide data - and Lo & Behold, they find correlations between signals from the SIM allocated to POS & the one allocated to SM.

his work may have become compromised - although I’m sure I recall reading that on the Monday after, he was doing work at the school where his Mum worked

his vehicle may have shown up on cameras - if so, it would seem strange that a trace of it’s movements hasn’t led to her whereabouts

cross checks of police records may have highlighted the traffic offence (no doubt that forced the now pending charges, and gained the traffic officer a rap over the knuckles for his ‘oversight’) However, that may have also highlighted other areas of concern. Not sure if here or elsewhere that I read of a friendship between POS & son of an officer . ( at this moment, I’m feeling so very sad for so many people )

Presumably Police left POS to carry on as usual (under surveillance) in the hope that he’d somehow divulge SM’s whereabouts. …but that didn’t happen, and still hasn’t.

Which begs the big question

I’m guessing he started by becoming a person of interest from an eye witness of him and/or his vehicle in the area.

 

[Zidane98]

This one's fallen right off the radar recently. The committal will be interesting to say the least.

 

[Kurve]

This one's fallen right off the radar recently. The committal will be interesting to say the least.

It's sad, the longer it goes on without finding Samantha, the less hope there is she'll ever be found.

 

[mrskafoops]

I just cannot get my head around the why. Why would he have done it? What could have driven him to do it? It seems senseless and such a terrible waste. Both Samantha and POS. Why throw your life away like that? I just don't understand people, which is what draws me to forums like this. To try to make some sense of it.

 

[Underarrest_]

This one's fallen right off the radar recently. The committal will be interesting to say the least.

I think his defence would have received the brief of evidence by now but doesn’t seem as though PS is talking or disclosing where SM’s body is which might be quite telling of how much evidence police have.

 

[Lady O]

I think his defence would have received the brief of evidence by now but doesn’t seem as though PS is talking or disclosing where SM’s body is which might be quite telling of how much evidence police have.

Is it possible that someone else took SM's body and he doesn't actually know where it is?

 

[Underarrest_]

Is it possible that someone else took SM's body and he doesn't actually know where it is?

Personally I think if he’s killed her he disposed of her body too
but it’s possible.
What’s your thoughts on who could have disposed of her body, if P killed her?

 

[31550]

Personally I think if he’s killed her he disposed of her body too
but it’s possible.
What’s your thoughts on who could have disposed of her body, if P killed her?

I just cannot get my head around the why. Why would he have done it? What could have driven him to do it? It seems senseless and such a terrible waste. Both Samantha and POS. Why throw your life away like that? I just don't understand people, which is what draws me to forums like this. To try to make some sense of it.

Is it possible that someone else took SM's body and he doesn't actually know where it is?

Probably need to wait and see what the Crown alleges before we can answer any of the above.
Some might be revealed at the committal hearing, but the details may not be revealed until the actual trial. It's not standard practice for police to provide a running commentary once charges have been laid.

 

[Lady O]

Personally I think if he’s killed her he disposed of her body too
but it’s possible.
What’s your thoughts on who could have disposed of her body, if P killed her?

I haven't really formed a theory, but way back someone was pondering whether he was "carrying out orders" under duress, from someone else who actually had a reason to want her dead.

If you accept this, it makes sense for the murderer and the person who disposed of SM's body to be two separate and unrelated people, acting under instruction from a third party. A "hit" I suppose, but neither of the people able to identify each other or the person who ordered the "hit". All they know is they had to perform an action to prevent an action being performed against them. It's a classic "mob" tactic.