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barmy44

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the '09 GF was interesting and satisfying from a geelong point of view, beyond the obvious, for these reasons:

1. only the 3rd time in the last 53 GFs that a team has come from behind at 3/4 time to win.

2. the second time in VFL/AFL history that a team has won only 1 out of 4 quarters and still won the game. the other time was hawthorn in '89. :mad:

3. the fourth time in a row the cats have beaten the saints in a final. the current finals record between the two clubs: 4-0!

if anyone has any others, throw them up...
 

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barmy44 said:
the '09 GF was interesting and satisfying from a geelong point of view, beyond the obvious, for these reasons:

1. only the 3rd time in the last 53 GFs that a team has come from behind at 3/4 time to win.
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A friend of mine who I was watching the grand final with told me that fact about 10 times at 3/4 time. Couldn't bring myself to ask him how that went at the end of the game.

My favourite fact that I was reminding people of all day was that the team that lost during the H&A season had ended up winning the grand final. This had been true for the last seven seasons or whatever. Add one more to that list.
 
here are some "nerdy, probably slightly obsessive, looks like i've got too much time on my hands" facts from the Grand Final.
Don't think they are really that satisfying but here goes
This years win was....

Surprisingly only the 3rd smallest GF win in the clubs history. 10pts in '25 and 11pts in '51. (max boots the ball into the crowd post siren it's the smallest GF win in clubs history)

the 2nd largest crowd to see them win a GF in AFL history. 101,209 saw them in '63.

the 3rd time a score of 68 was involved in a GF win for the Cats out of a possible 16. Collingwoods losing score in '25 was 68 and Geelong's winning score in '31 was 68

the 7th of Geelong's 8 premierships that was won on an uneven year (the only other, '52, was won on a back to back)

The last two players to wear number 5 in a Geelong Premiership were aboriginal (Varcoe, Farmer) Absolutely no disrespect intended for the great Gary Ablett snr. who clearly deserved a premiership more than nearly every non-premiership player in history.

the first Premiership for 4 players (Blake, Taylor, Hawkins, Varcoe)

the 2nd premiership for 17 players

the 3rd premiership for 1 player (Mooney)


yeah it's a very slow day in the office here at work
 
Are we the first team to win both the Night and Day grand finals in a single year?

If so, this hasn't been talked about much at all - is a great stat.
 
kellykellykelly said:
Are we the first team to win both the Night and Day grand finals in a single year?

If so, this hasn't been talked about much at all - is a great stat.
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nah i think you'll probably find Hawthorn has done it at least once during their 80's era. They dominated the night competition back then for memory when it was played almost exclusively at Waverley (their home ground at the time)
 
kellykellykelly said:
Are we the first team to win both the Night and Day grand finals in a single year?

If so, this hasn't been talked about much at all - is a great stat.
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Essendon did it in 1984, 1993 and 2000, Hawthorn did it in 1986, 1988 and 1991 just off the top of my head.

And Waverley didn't become Hawthorns home ground until 1993, after which they only won 1 further night flag, the last one ever held at Waverley in 1999.

However, we played in the last night series game at Waverley, in 2000 against Melbourne, when we had a burst water main under the ground and the game could not be played at KP as scheduled. It was played on that Monday or Tuesday night instead. I also marked the match ball behind the goals that evening :D

No team has ever won a GF having only 15 forward entries in the first half, until 2009 :D
 
i was actually starting to doubt myself as to when Hawthorn began to call Waverley home when i posted my reply, that clears that up.

last two flags have a 21-4 win-loss ratio. last loss R21 both of those years against a team we later defeated in finals.
 
On the night and day premiership, I though that there was $1m up for grabs to the club to do that. It was certainly on offer a couple of years back, anyone know what happened? Did we get it, or did the sponsor retract after seeing how good we were!
 

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TheCattery2007 said:
On the night and day premiership, I though that there was $1m up for grabs to the club to do that. It was certainly on offer a couple of years back, anyone know what happened? Did we get it, or did the sponsor retract after seeing how good we were!
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Was taken off the table a number of years ago.
 
OK so the stats men have not been counting spoils for long, BUT....

Geelong - 54 spoils (most "ever" by a team)
Harry - 15 spoils, mostly with a broken right hand against the league's best forward (most "ever" by an individual)

Big H you are a star!

I watched replay again looking for a grimace from Harry, or at least some indication he was in pain. The only giveaway is a few very girly looking handpass efforts with the open palm instead of a fist.
 
J. Bartel - 16 tackles. Equal most ever in a game.

Key Forward Goals:
Mooney/Hawkins 4
Chokewoldt/Koshitske 2

Number of times Shannon Byrnes byrned Raph Clarke in the last qtr:
3

Number of times Chappy gave me a stiffy:
3 (for each of his goals)
 
Geelong is the 11th team to win the grand final after trailing at 3/4 time. The first since Essendon in 1984. Previous to that were in: 1981,1971,1970,1969,1947,1943,1921,1918,1899. St Kilda joins Carlton and Essendon as having lost 2 grand finals after leading at 3/4 time. Collingwood has lost three.

Geelong is the third team to win a grand final by only winning one quarter of the match. See: http://www.rogersresults.110mb.com/Rogers_Results/Tables/grand_finals1.htm

2009 was also the third time Geelong has kept their opponent in a winning grand final to 19 points in the second half.

1931 Richmond 3.1-19
1952 Collingwood 2.7-19
2009 St Kilda 2.7-19

In addition to the above:
Big scoring has not featured in second halves among opponents in Geelong's grand final wins. (Only Collingwood with 4.9-33 in the first half in 1925 scored more after half time.)

1925 Collingwood 5.6-36
 1937 Collingwood 4.8-32
1951 Essendon 4.8-32
1963 Hawthorn 3.6-24
2007 Port Adelaide 2.5-17

The 2009 grand final is the only one where each teams' tally of goals has been equal at 1/4 time. 1/2 time and 3/4 time.
 
BigBadCam said:
My favourite fact that I was reminding people of all day was that the team that lost during the H&A season had ended up winning the grand final. This had been true for the last seven seasons or whatever.
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Close.

The stat is "most recent encounter" not "the last H&A game" as Brisbane beat Collingwood in the H&A in 2003 but lost to them in the first week of the finals. Ditto Sydney Vs WCE in 2005.

muffinman said:
David Wojcinski has a 100% success rate in AFL Grand Finals where he has played with Geelong :thumbsu:
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DeanoT said:
Wojo and Shannon Byrnes are both 2/2.
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Hawkins is also 100%.

bingle said:
last two flags have a 21-4 win-loss ratio. last loss R21 both of those years against a team we later defeated in finals.
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Memo to Bomber & Co. don't win more than 18 games in the H&A. :D
........and lose to our future GF opponent. ;)

FWIW For two years running teams have won 20+ H&A games and not been premiers. :mad: & :)

Geelong is the first team since 2003 to win the GF as the club with the more recent GF victory. So going into this year's game one trend had to break: the loser of the previous battle wins OR the team experiencing the longer flag drought wins. Thank **** it was the latter. :) OH YEAH, **** YEAH!
 
Watched it again. Two skill errors in final quarter from Kelly then Varcoe. But enormous love for the team. Corey J was amazing, Max was terrific (did anyone think he would be as good as he is). Chappy is amazing. It's joyful to support the Cats, we are back next year. Go Cats!
 
Before the 2009 Grand Final Geelong had won 12 consecutive first quarters in their finals matches.

Geelong in 2009 became the only team since the introduction of the final 8 to keep their opponents in the Preliminary Final and the Grand Final goalless in the last quarter.

Also in 2009 Geelong became the only team to keep opponents goalless in the last quarter in consecutive Preliminary Finals.

http://www.rogersresults.110mb.com/
 

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