Opinion Say NO to a 2020* Grand Final at AO

[kirky]

I don’t think a low middle manager gets to say what is a valid response

And what is your occupation?

 

[Thetrader15]

What is it with scumbags on this blog?

Yeh, because become a senior manager puts one in the same league as Chapman. Just because you get to the top means you are better than those below you. It just means you play the brown nose and political games better. I have no respect for senior management anywhere.

Not that you want to stereotype...

 

[Thetrader15]

No, that isn’t a valid response.

There will be minimal $$$ spent from interstate visitors and crowd numbers will be capped at 25k. This is a three hour event.

Who gets to keep the ticket sales? Who gets to keep the sale of corporate boxes?

The only way any of this changes is a relaxation of quarantine from Victoria (extremely unlikely).

$30m is a waste of taxpayers money.

Really the ROI is the exposure on a national scale...that said, there aren't going to be too many visitors here from Vic for a while anyway, so I actually don't see it.

I'd love to get a FOI on the "business case"

 

[Thetrader15]

So if we give the VFL $30m, does that go straight to the MCC and Vic Gov via the VFL for breaking the contract they signed last year?

 

[kirky]

So if we give the VFL $30m, does that go straight to the MCC and Vic Gov via the VFL for breaking the contract they signed last year?

Probably, that is what it is all about. All the states should say $0-, end of story.

The AFL should be grateful it actually has a season!

 

[Thetrader15]

Probably, that is what it is all about. All the states should say $0-, end of story.

The AFL should be grateful it actually has a season!

Steven Marshall on 5AA last night,:

• Saying he hopes, err, there will be economic benefit.
• "Thousands of people who come from interstate"
• "Fill up our hotels"
• Technicians would have to do the 14d isolation...didn't mention the AFL execs even though that was the question asked
• Apparently the AFL GF is one of the "premier sporting events globally" it would be 'fantastic marketing' and 'I just think it would be amazing for our city to host the AFL GF"
• "We've put a bit of money on the table, but not a lot" - Let's bookmark this for when we know how much we did bid. Then we will know what Steven's definition of 'not a lot of money' is

 

[Brasher]

So if we give the VFL $30m, does that go straight to the MCC and Vic Gov via the VFL for breaking the contract they signed last year?

Have been thinking exactly this....any state that pays for the GF will directly contribute to the AFL's "it's all about Melbourne" warchest.

 

[ltdamn]

that’s just your lack of experience and knowledge

That's just your lack of an answer to the question that was asked.

 

[kirky]

Because you're clearly the CEO of a multinational corporation

If he is, just proves my point given the crap he has posted on this website.

 

[Deaneus!]

Because you're clearly the CEO of a multinational corporation

Multi-national would be wrong, you'd be taking a bath on that one.

 

[Thetrader15]

That's just your lack of an answer to the question that was asked.

Sanders = Steven Marshall ???

 

[Vhaluus]

Really the ROI is the exposure on a national scale...that said, there aren't going to be too many visitors here from Vic for a while anyway, so I actually don't see it.

I'd love to get a FOI on the "business case"

.. exposure?

Pretty sure the rest of Australia know Adelaide exists.

 

[Thetrader15]

.. exposure?

Pretty sure the rest of Australia know Adelaide exists.

But apparently everyone in Australia and millions overseas will be watching, so we are centre stage

He also implied he though people (commentators) would be talking about how well we are doing with COVID, which I can only think would be so they wanted to come here...and increase our # of cases of COVID

 

[Punchy Bassett]

If we are throwing money at any sporting events now it should be in this order:

1) Boxing Day test v India
2) Australian GP

And that's it.

 

[Vhaluus]

But apparently everyone in Australia and millions overseas will be watching, so we are centre stage

He also implied he though people (commentators) would be talking about how well we are doing with COVID, which I can only think would be so they wanted to come here...and increase our # of cases of COVID

When was the last time you watched a sporting event on TV and went "yeah I want to go there when that event ISNT on"? how about anyone you know?

Exposure is BS marketing spin where they put a theoretical value on it to make the unprofitable seem profitable.

 

[FR0GGY]

Let’s get SA back to normal first please Marshall.
There’s a whole event industry crippled here.

 

[ltdamn]

How would everyone in favour of this feel if this was a 25,000 person Hillsong, Holy week or Eid convention at AO for the low, low price of $30m, instead of the AFL Grand Final?

All fantastic exposure to a huge segment of people who have probably never been to SA before. Still doesn't matter though because most of them won't be able to come for the foreseeable future.

 

[arrowman]

When was the last time you watched a sporting event on TV and went "yeah I want to go there when that event ISNT on"? how about anyone you know?

Exposure is BS marketing spin where they put a theoretical value on it to make the unprofitable seem profitable.

TBF "Exposure" can have value. TDU, GP etc are good for that. A one-off half-a-crowd AFL match, not so much.

 

[AFC3000]

If a Grand Final in a heavily compromised year, played in front of half a crowd is worth $30 million, why did the AFL sell it the Vic Government for the discount price of $500 million (a lot of it to be spent on Victorian football and facilities) for 40 years, or just 12.5 million per year?

If us, WA, NSW and QLD had offered $150 million each, much of that spent on our grounds, facilities and competitions, the AFL could of had an extra $100 million and we could have shared it on a 4 year rotation, I bet the AFL wouldn't have even considered it, so as much as it was about money, it was clearly about Victoria.

No admin of the day should be able to make almost half a century decisions on behalf of a national competition, one that with expansion should be becoming more and more national.

Maybe one day like how they propped up Victorian football with the Docklands purchase they will pay out the MCG contract...

Yeah probably not.

Anyway, on the topic of the GF in Adelaide, my anti Port bias says no, and Port supporters would call us out on that, but if we were both bottom 4 teams, would either supporter group really get behind a $30 million dollar deal for a potential 25k attendance Grand Final if it was between say GWS and Richmond?

 

[Sanders]

If he is, just proves my point given the crap he has posted on this website.

If you or any of the low middle ranking public service IT bods can’t see the value of hosting the grand final, domestically and internationally then that proves MY point.

If you want to argue the benefits are less than the cost, then sure, that’s grounds for a reasonable position but to slobber spittle all over your keyboard gurning no value then you should move over to the kids board and look for some brightly coloured crayons to play with

 

[kirky]

If you or any of the low middle ranking public service IT bods can’t see the value of hosting the grand final, domestically and internationally then that proves MY point.

If you want to argue the benefits are less than the cost, then sure, that’s grounds for a reasonable position but to slobber spittle all over your keyboard gurning no value then you should move over to the kids board and look for some brightly coloured crayons to play with

No it doesn’t prove anything. All you said is nothing, absolutely nothing. Internationally? FMD - it’s just over two hours and that’s it.

We don’t need to pay a cent and then we take it. Paying $30m is just pissing tax payers money on the wall.

To show your supposedly superiority, justify the price tag of $30m. Justify the economic benefit and not just waffle.

PS: I see you won’t disclose your occupation either. Piss weak.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

If you or any of the low middle ranking public service IT bods can’t see the value of hosting the grand final, domestically and internationally then that proves MY point.

If you want to argue the benefits are less than the cost, then sure, that’s grounds for a reasonable position but to slobber spittle all over your keyboard gurning no value then you should move over to the kids board and look for some brightly coloured crayons to play with

Internationally

 

[Sanders]

No it doesn’t prove anything. All you said is nothing, absolutely nothing. Internationally? FMD - it’s just over two hours and that’s it.

We don’t need to pay a cent and then we take it. Paying $30m is just pissing tax payers money on the wall.

To show your supposedly superiority, justify the price tag of $30m. Justify the economic benefit and not just waffle.

PS: I see you won’t disclose your occupation either. Piss weak.

and I thought you couldn’t show yourself up economically more than you do on the politics board!

mea culpa

 

[mistylake]

But apparently everyone in Australia and millions overseas will be watching, so we are centre stage

He also implied he though people (commentators) would be talking about how well we are doing with COVID, which I can only think would be so they wanted to come here...and increase our # of cases of COVID

Except no one can go there until there is no Covid which means. No Covid so they can go anywhere and anywhere else they will go.

 

[Fivel_79]

If a Grand Final in a heavily compromised year, played in front of half a crowd is worth $30 million, why did the AFL sell it the Vic Government for the discount price of $500 million (a lot of it to be spent on Victorian football and facilities) for 40 years, or just 12.5 million per year?

If us, WA, NSW and QLD had offered $150 million each, much of that spent on our grounds, facilities and competitions, the AFL could of had an extra $100 million and we could have shared it on a 4 year rotation, I bet the AFL wouldn't have even considered it, so as much as it was about money, it was clearly about Victoria.

No admin of the day should be able to make almost half a century decisions on behalf of a national competition, one that with expansion should be becoming more and more national.

Maybe one day like how they propped up Victorian football with the Docklands purchase they will pay out the MCG contract...

Yeah probably not.

Anyway, on the topic of the GF in Adelaide, my anti Port bias says no, and Port supporters would call us out on that, but if we were both bottom 4 teams, would either supporter group really get behind a $30 million dollar deal for a potential 25k attendance Grand Final if it was between say GWS and Richmond?

Well put... or would the SA Government?