If they did Selwood would be well ahead
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Scott Pendlebury - Standing in the game?
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Opposition teams in finals don't seem to take leadership into account when working out whether to win or lose against Collingwood Fadge, they can be so unco-operative sometimes.
Yes but as my post above alludes to, how many games you play has a massive affect on Brownlow votes. There's a big decline after 190-210 odd H&A games - the twilight years.
Fyfe at 207 H&A games sadly leaves us with a "what if", as in the modern era for the champions this is not a truly high end number. Not his fault of course but if he had played 3 full seasons at his current level 2021-2023 with a couple more to come - his average would've dropped off significantly. He has received 3 votes over the past 3 years but the lack of games has protected that average.
They just get the scoreline recorded for posterity to show forever they were further ahead of the competition than the more shallow Premiers, the most shallow of which, is the 3d print of Richmond FC that won the 2023 Premiership.
I don't have time to factor every single element into every single post. That was looking purely at the Brownlow votes and qualifying for stage of career, which added to Pendleubury's case rather than detracted from it.
On leadership Selwood and Pendlebury both receive big kudos, like Hodge and Voss before them.
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Yet another shocker.Opposition teams in finals don't seem to take leadership into account when working out whether to win or lose against Collingwood Fadge, they can be so unco-operative sometimes.
We need to go in search of the real Meteoric Rise. I fear he's been kidnapped and a lame excuse for a human being has hijacked his account..
Yep. Pendlebury only got 6 Brownlow votes (felt like unders but whatever), yet remained an important player and big part of a premiership at his age - so that adds to his legacy, not detracting from it because various averages are lower than "peak Pendlebury". And the senior captain leading his side to a flag after many wrote them off (Collingwood and Geelong both at various stages since their last flag) while performing well in finals - big points for that.
See now this confuses me!If a flat earther is a flat earther, and a conspiracy theorist is a conspiracy theorist, and a doomsday prepper is a doomsday prepper....what are we to call a person labels everybody they object to a flat earther, conspiracy theorist or doomsday prepper?
By the way my pillow cases are laundered regularly, and I only enter bunkers carrying a sand wedge.
I guess at the end of the day you are like a modern version of a witchsmeller pursuivant jackson.
I had you pegged for a moron, or at best a troll.
This post however (especially the first paragraph) is sneaky good, and I quite enjoyed the intelligence of it.
Maybe you are just eccentric
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Just for the record so nobody gets confused about how great a leader the man they call Scott is:
Collingwood in Pendlebury's career without Pendlebury as Captain:
All matches: Wins 124 Losses 60
Finals: Wins 12 Losses 7
Premierships: 2
Collingwood with Pendlebury as Captain:
All Matches: Wins 99 Losses 87
Finals: Wins 5 Losses 6
Premierships: 0
If I have ever seen evidence of great leadership in my life this has to be it Fadge.
See now this confuses me!
I had you pegged for a moron, or at best a troll.
This post however (especially the first paragraph) is sneaky good, and I quite enjoyed the intelligence of it.
Maybe you are just eccentric
I just like to provoke you to think jackson.
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MR binary thinking again.Just for the record so nobody gets confused about how great a leader the man they call Scott is:
Collingwood in Pendlebury's career without Pendlebury as Captain:
All matches: Wins 124 Losses 60
Finals: Wins 12 Losses 7
Premierships: 2
Collingwood with Pendlebury as Captain:
All Matches: Wins 99 Losses 87
Finals: Wins 5 Losses 6
Premierships: 0
If I have ever seen evidence of great leadership in my life this has to be it Fadge.
Captain = Leader
Not Captain = Not Leader
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You’re trying too hard now. It wreaks of desperation. You’re not changing anyone’s mind and just embarrassing yourself further.Collingwood in Pendlebury's career without Pendlebury as Captain:
All matches: Wins 124 Losses 60
Finals: Wins 12 Losses 7
Premierships: 2
Collingwood with Pendlebury as Captain:
All Matches: Wins 99 Losses 87
Finals: Wins 5 Losses 6
Premierships: 0
If I have ever seen evidence of great leadership in my life this has to be it Fadge.
On a side note, how good does this look?
Its hard to put him next to Danger/Fyfe as he doesnt have the attributes but he has them covered for big games, IQ, kicking and longevity. I don't have a problem though putting them in the same tier.
So true Fadge, it must have been Pendlebury that was leading the team when he wasn't Captain and somebody else leading the team when he was Captain.
Great photo.
So pleased to see the Premiership Cup where it belongs PL.....in a Richmond player's hands.
His leadership quite obviously remained as important as any year as captain.
Moore plays his role well and has stepped up, but it won't be until Pendles is gone that he officially becomes "the man" for Collingwood.
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Also, great teams have leaders on every line. It's not as if Moore will ever be organising his teammates around midfield stoppages.
Even though Richmond benefited from the weakest era in the history of the competition, you've got to give the likes of Grimes and Riewoldt credit for their leadership (in addition to Cotchin), at the bookends of the ground.
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Unless there are health issues (which are common for players his age) that we are unaware of I would expect him to continue.
Still a gun all these years later.
Both Danger/Fyfe had periods they were the best in the game. At his peak Pendle wasn't even the best in his team
13 votes from his last 45 games.
That means at one point he had 194 votes from 162 games. Phenomenal.
Yeah as a peak it's crazy. He was a worthy dual-Brownlow medal winner but then the injuries hit.
The same happened to Dangerfield, who has spent various points of the last few seasons very much looking like a wounded soldier, but he's been able to put together some really good blocks of football. With Fyfe things just fell off a cliff.
