Scott Pendlebury - Standing in the game?

[Cdog71]

Very basic calculation.

FYI - Goodes debuted in 1999, so shouldn't be considered.


So Hawkins would be there with 250 games?

Regardless.... who would have thought that players adding to their legacies by playing more great games (I.e. Pendlebury in his 390th or so game in the 2023 Grand Final) would be a thing?

Who gives a sh.t you want to talk about the last 20 years?
I don’t.
And I dont give a sh.t that you don’t agree with an objective analysis of all players of the last 25 years done by professionals in the industry.
I’m not surprised, your deluded, you think your opinion is more important than anyone else’s.

Pendlebury is a generational player.
Pendlebury in the GF had a 4 possesion quarter, a 6 possesion quarter, a 2 possesion quarter and then had 11 possessions in the last quarter.
I think it shows he is a ruthless competitor, I think his appetite to prepare and stay at the level shows he is a ruthless competitor.
It’s unusual someone with that mindset doesn’t seem to thrive off dominating his opponents or wanting to score.
But that’s the way he plays.
Basic calculation…same old Fadgey

 

[Fadge]

Scott - get the ball and actually go forward with it next time you have an AFL career please campaigner.

Meteoric - stop consistently embarrassing yourself with your deluded shitetakes next time you sign up to BigFooty please campaigner.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Meteoric - stop consistently embarrassing yourself with your deluded shitetakes next time you sign up to BigFooty please campaigner.

You are correct Fadge. My shit takes are embarrassing.

For you.

Note to self: I must stop embarrassing Fadge so much with my shit takes.

 

[Cdog71]

To be fair, Richmond supporters haven't had many reasons to front up to games over the last few years...

94000 at Dusty’s 300th in a nothing game.
How many to Pendleburys 400th in a game against Carlton you had to win to make finals?

 

[Fadge]

Who gives a sh.t you want to talk about the last 20 years?
I don’t.
And I dont give a sh.t that you don’t agree with an objective analysis of all players of the last 25 years done by professionals in the industry.
I’m not surprised, your deluded, you think your opinion is more important than anyone else’s.

Who said 20 years?

The discussion is turn of the century, but even 25 years now excludes players who debuted in 1999.

Nonetheless, Pendlebury is ahead of Goodes.

 

[Fadge]

94000 at Dusty’s 300th in a nothing game.
How many to Pendleburys 400th in a game against Carlton you had to win to make finals?

Many of Martin's games have been nothing games, which is another reason why Pendlebury is ahead of him.

 

[Cdog71]

Many of Martin's games have been nothing games, which is another reason why Pendlebury is ahead of him.

Delusional.
Just because you’d crawl over stones to sniff his farts doesn’t make him better in other peoples eyes.

 

[WilloTree]

Of the players I've seen pull on a Collingwood jumper I have a clear top 2 in Daicos and Buckley.

I'm comfortable saying Pendlebury 3rd, but I'd pay more to see Billy Picken.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Of the players I've seen pull on a Collingwood jumper I have a clear top 2 in Daicos and Buckley.

I'm comfortable saying Pendlebury 3rd, but I'd pay more to see Billy Picken.

This is so ludicrously wrong and I have absolute proof....

 

[Arr0w]

Who said 20 years?

The discussion is turn of the century, but even 25 years now excludes players who debuted in 1999.

Nonetheless, Pendlebury is ahead of Goodes.

Excluding a player from the 21st century because the debut was in 1999? Hilarious

Goodes has Pendlebury covered, easily

So does Judd, Dusty, Buddy, GAJ, Pavlich

In contention for the top 10 along with Riewoldt x 2, Black, Scarlett, Selwood and when careers are over for Bont, Danger

 

[Franc de Borges]

Excluding a player from the 21st century because the debut was in 1999? Hilarious

Goodes has Pendlebury covered, easily

So does Judd, Dusty, Buddy, GAJ, Pavlich

In contention for the top 10 along with Riewoldt x 2, Black, Scarlett, Selwood and when careers are over for Bont, Danger

You’re underestimating him a bit. Only Ablett and Franklin are definitely ahead.

Judd and Martin had a more overt impact but Pendlebury is more of a death by a thousand cuts type.

I have him ahead of Pavlich due to big game performances, which has to count against players that haven’t performed as well in September, regardless of whether they were fortunate enough to have the same opportunities.

 

[Arr0w]

You’re underestimating him a bit. Only Ablett and Franklin are definitely ahead.

Judd and Martin had a more overt impact but Pendlebury is more of a death by a thousand cuts type.

I have him ahead of Pavlich due to big game performances, which has to count against players that haven’t performed as well in September, regardless of whether they were fortunate enough to have the same opportunities.

Pendlebury has had a great career, but i have others in front of him for impact, this century

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

The reason I have Pendlebury at #4 in the 21st Century is quite simple.

I look at the respective players best X number of games / X number of seasons to deduce who the better player was.

Take Pendlebury v. Martin, for example.

Pendlebury has:
2 of the best 3 seasons;
3 of the best 5 seasons;
7 of the best 12 seasons;
12 of the best 20 seasons;
15 of the best 25 seasons;

And

53 of the best 100 games;
110 of the best 200 games;
168 of the best 300 games;
235 of the best 400 games:
290 of the best 500 games;
350 of the best 600 games.

And that's before we factor in on-field leadership.

Please don't tell me you're claiming you've individually analyzed 600+ games of the two

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

For mine

GAJ
Judd
Buddy
Dusty
Gawn
Dangerfield
Pavlich
Goodes
Bontempelli
Fyfe

If I'm accounting for leadership Pendles still probably behind Hodge, Voss, Selwood.

A great of the game regardless, just been many great players over the last 25 years.

 

[76woodenspooners]

IMO …

Pendlebury is an admired figure. The God who created Pendlebury is an engineer. If Pendlebury was a car he’d be a Mercedes. Solid. Reliable. Durable. Capable. But …

… he’s not a loved figure. He’s not relatable. He’s not warm. He’s a bit serious and very earnest in a way that many find unsettling. He doesn’t have the imperfections that make people unique and give them their personality. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of depth to him. He’s not somebody others generally aspire to be.

I can’t imagine the Collingwood Football Club has sold a lot of Number 10 guernseys for a long time.

If Pendlebury were a movie character, he’d be a cross between Arnie in The Terminator, and The Terminator in The Temrinator.

When the time comes Pendlebury will be rightfully inducted into the AFL Hall of Fame. It’ll be uncontentious and widely accepted from right across the AFL landscape. But celebrations will be ‘polite’.

And there is zero chance that anybody will ever write a hit song “ Up there Pendlebury … ” or some such, which inspires the AFL to wheel out some old dude with a guitar to play ahead of the Grand Final every year.

Mercedes is a decent car brand. It’s Solid. Reliable. Durable. Capable. But people don’t walk into a showroom and buy a Merc because they love them or are passionate about them.

 

[carlton_99]

The reason I have Pendlebury at #4 in the 21st Century is quite simple.

I look at the respective players best X number of games / X number of seasons to deduce who the better player was.

Take Pendlebury v. Martin, for example.

Pendlebury has:
2 of the best 3 seasons;
3 of the best 5 seasons;
7 of the best 12 seasons;
12 of the best 20 seasons;
15 of the best 25 seasons;

And

53 of the best 100 games;
110 of the best 200 games;
168 of the best 300 games;
235 of the best 400 games:
290 of the best 500 games;
350 of the best 600 games.

And that's before we factor in on-field leadership.

I personally have Pendlebury ahead of Martin and have said this previously but just making up numbers really does not strengthen any argument.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Buckley was a far superior player.

 

[Fadge]

I personally have Pendlebury ahead of Martin and have said this previously but just making up numbers really does not strengthen any argument.

The numbers for the seasons aren't made up - I've done the analysis and shared the detail in threads previously (likely even this thread).

The games numbers are translated from the season numbers.

 

[carlton_99]

The numbers for the seasons aren't made up - I've done the analysis and shared the detail in threads previously (likely even this thread).

The games numbers are translated from the season numbers.

How can the game numbers be translated from the season numbers? You would have to analyse each game independently if you are going to make a claim about games played.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

The numbers for the seasons aren't made up - I've done the analysis and shared the detail in threads previously (likely even this thread).

The games numbers are translated from the season numbers.

So you fudged half the numbers? Lmao

 

[Fadge]

How can the game numbers be translated from the season numbers? You would have to analyse each game independently if you are going to make a claim about games played.

A collective of games form a season.

You wouldn't understand my algorithms.

 

[carlton_99]

A collective of games form a season.

You wouldn't understand my algorithms.

My point still stands.

 

[Fadge]

My point still stands.

What was your point again?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

What was your point again?

That you just made up the stats you claimed as fact

 

[Fadge]

That you just made up the stats you claimed as fact

Nope. Nothing made up in my posts, as I've stated.

Though happy for any of you to try to prove me wrong.