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We're looking at different data.
Player Ratings in Wheeloratings has McKay ahead of Colyer and Gibbons.
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We're looking at different data.
Well looks like we're both right then.We're looking at different data.
Player Ratings in Wheeloratings has McKay ahead of Colyer and Gibbons.
Great post.This is a pretty fair comparison I'd say. Pendles is an absolute class act but he's never had the "showtime" that today's "superstars" need to have. I know Bucks rates him as our greatest (on Buck's own rating system) but I've never rated Pendles in the same class as John Greening or Peter Daicos....they were the creme de creme of our players over my 75 years. Pendles is on plane with Bob Rose, Bucks Wayne Richardson and Swanny for mine.
BUT, in 20 years time I reckon people across the AFL Spectrum will be far more impressed when they reflect on his playing career and how it reflected his coaching career. For just as Leigh Matthews grew in everyone else's estimations once he became a multiple premiership winning coach atop his playing success, (just like Barassi before him) I believe Pendles greatest period of success is still ahead of him.
He is already a brilliant on field coach (this is where he influences games...and its often invisible to opponents and their supporters)....but when he eventually hangs up his boots and takes over an AFL list, his knowledge of game plans and strategy along with his ability to read changes in games will make him an irrepressible coach. He leaves no stone un turned and is an excellent communicator, all in all a wonderful coach in waiting.
Reading a few of the posts in this thread has saddened me a bit as people these days seem hell bent on simply denigrating anyone to "get a response" from other posters. Pendles isn't deserving of denigration, idiots like Jimmy O'Dea or "Jacko" or Carman maybe but Pendles has always been a fair and positive role model for our game. That people want to slag someone who has played this long, at such a high standard, and led his team and his club through tough times, well I simply don't quite know what to say to those people. My grandfather would have told me to "button my lip" or to "stop sooking" if I complained like some in here but maybe that's just showing my age!
I'd rather congratulate a fine player on an exemplary career than drag his name and his legacy down for a simple reaction.
Wouldn't that put players like Voss, Selwood, Hodge etc ahead of him though? I don't think anyone could honestly argue Pendlebury has been a better leader than any of them?Great post.
The leadership/on field coaching element of his game is the very reason as to why I elevate him above others (who many rate as better individual players) in my rankings.
I'd definitely have Voss ahead of Pendlebury (but Voss is excluded in the turn of the century discussions).Wouldn't that put players like Voss, Selwood, Hodge etc ahead of him though? I don't think anyone could honestly argue Pendlebury has been a better leader than any of them?
Pendlebury is a Collingwood player. We are duty bound to disrespect him.
But if Collingwood supporters think he is your best player ever, I can respect that.
If I met Pendlebury I would be the first to congratulate him on being the worst best player in any club's history.
Pretty sure that's a safe bet.I sincerely hope you never meet him then.
Pretty sure that's a safe bet.
Pendlebury doesn't operate in the same social circles as Meteoric Ruse.
Pretty sure that's a safe bet.
Pendlebury doesn't operate in the same social circles as Meteoric Ruse.
He might if the Tiges are smart enough to land Pendles as a coach. As I said, I'd hate to see a bloke like Pendles disrespected to his face.
Self confessed troll admits to trying to derail another thread simply because of the club involved.Just so you know, of course I wouldn't be disrespectful to Pendlebury(or anyone.) We are engaging in a bit of banter here. Surely you have lived around Melbourne long enough to know how that works.
I have no issue with Pendlebury at all, like everyone else, I admire him as a sportsman. He is an ornament to the game.
But that isn't going to stop us winding Collingwood supporters up about his standing in the game with a few inconvenient factual statements. And we have come to expect no less in return from plenty of Collingwood supporters in threads about our own great players.
Self confessed troll admits to trying to derail another thread simply because of the club involved.
Seriously, get a life.