AFLW Semi Final vs Hawthorn @ IKON Park Saturday 16/11/24 7:00pm

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It has been bizarre watching Port's AFLW team getting the majority of coverage in news sports sections with a throwaway Oh and the crows won too. Honestly who would have expected that at this time of year at the start of the season (or even a month in)?
 

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Thought Dowrick looked a little lazy in the first half, but she certainly fired up in the second.
Have a listen to Lauren Arnell's press conference after the game, she talks about Abbey not feeling the best, but then she just dug in and found something extra in the last. Said she had learnt that when you think you've got nothing left in the tank, you can always find more.
 
I think this is the best 3/4 time comeback in a final I have seen since 1978, we were trailing Glenelg by 28 points and ran all over them in a knockout semi final. The way the girls played in that last quarter brought back a lot of great memories when we had sides with belief and 100% commitment.
Thinking about this a bit more, the AFLW's quarters are 17 minutes the men's 20 minutes.

1994 Playing time for a quarter was amended to 20 minutes plus time-on instead of 25 but more time on situations were introduced. 2006 Introduction of automatic time-on from when a field umpire crosses his arms until a ball-up.

According to AFL tables the average AFL team scores between 2021 and 2024 have been 79pts, 83pts, 83pts, and 84pts respectively.

2020 covid saw 16 minute quarters introduced for the season after the Rd 1 shut down- average scores for year which had 9 games at normal 20 minutes, was 60pts.

The average score per AFLW in 2024 was 37.6pts. All quarter stats are for minor round part of the season.

So to come from 22 pts down at 3/4 time is probably like the blokes coming from 40pts down, but probably more given its a knockout final.

We scored 3.2 in 3 quarters and 4.6 in the last quarter which included 3 posters - 2 by Houghton and 1 by Symes and 2 straight forward shots on goal, Welland's set shot from 25 metres out on a 45 degree angel, Symes relatively easy shot on the run from 15-20 metres out on a slight angle, which was the winning point and a rushed behind by a Hawks player which tied up the scores at 49 all.

Our equal biggest come from behind in the AFL was earlier this year 41pts down late in the 3rd quarter v Hawthorn Rd 12 miracle 1pt win. The other 41pt come from behind win was against WCE Rd 5 2013 when we were 41pts down about a minute earlier on the countdown clock than the Hawks game.
 
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Why are some of us so hung up on social media posts put up by non entities? Port supporters of old never gave a toss about what others thought we simply focused on our on field success. Perhaps the problem in these times is we have so little on field success that there is nothing to focus on and as a consequence we allow ourselves to be sucked in by know nothing social media influencers?
 
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Thinking about this a bit more, the AFLW's quarters are 17 minutes the men's 20 minutes.

1994 Playing time for a quarter was amended to 20 minutes plus time-on instead of 25 but more time on situations were introduced. 2006 Introduction of automatic time-on from when a field umpire crosses his arms until a ball-up.

The time keeping in AFLW is a bit baffling, considering stoppage moments where the clock is still counting down. Also the deliberate ploy to hide the countdown clock with seconds remaining is a bit suspect.
 
Thinking about this a bit more, the AFLW's quarters are 17 minutes the men's 20 minutes.

1994 Playing time for a quarter was amended to 20 minutes plus time-on instead of 25 but more time on situations were introduced. 2006 Introduction of automatic time-on from when a field umpire crosses his arms until a ball-up.
This bugged me last night after I wrote this, as watching the final 2 minutes of the game on afl website the clock stopped when points were scored and at stoppages, and I remembered that AFLW had removed time on for stoppages, throw ins and after behinds were scored, so I watched the start of the last quarter and indeed there was no time on for those events.

So I looked up the rule and found out that;


Duration of match and intervals between quarters
Increased quarter length to 17 minutes in total, broken down into 15 minutes with time on for goals or major injuries only, and the additional two minutes with time on for all match stoppages.

The length of the interval at quarter-time and three-quarter-time will be reduced from six minutes and 30 seconds to six minutes, and that the length of interval at half-time will be reduced from 16 minutes to 14 minutes.


This link also has the clarification of the last touch rule between the 50m arcs, which is better than the SANFL rule, ie you are having a shot for goal inside 50m arc and you kick goes out of bounds, AFLW no free to oppo, SANFL free to oppo.

When a goal is scored in both AFL and AFLW there is a 45 second break for commercials to be slotted in, but the clock is stopped for about 1 minute of real time as the clock doesn't count down until umpires have actually bounced/thrown up ball, so about 15 seconds is taken for umpire to receive the OK in their ear piece and wall in and bounce/throw it up. Sometime in men's game it takes the umpire longer to set themselves and bounce the ball as they aren't confident and its about 69 second break between clock stopping and restarting.

So this is how long it took for the quarters to run;

1st 21.02, 3 goals scored, last 2 minutes took 4.00 as a goal was scored at and after umpire signal 1.53 was left.

2nd 20.50, 3 goals scored, last 2 minutes took 2.50, Hawks scored 2 pts.

3rd 19.49, 2 goals scored, last 2 minutes took 2.48, Hawks scored 1 pt.

4th 22.42, 5 goals scored, last 2 minutes took 2.55, Port scored 2 pts.

Most of these quarters with the same amount of goals scored in the men's game would take between 30-32 minutes. Maybe they should do the same thing with the men's game with either 15 or 18 minutes with no stoppages apart from goals and injuries, and either the last 5 or 2 minutes have time on for stoppages, out bounds and when points are scored.
 
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The time keeping in AFLW is a bit baffling, considering stoppage moments where the clock is still counting down. Also the deliberate ploy to hide the countdown clock with seconds remaining is a bit suspect.
I just posted the relevant rule.
 
This bugged me last night after I wrote this, as watching the final 2 minutes of the game on afl website the clock stopped when points were scored and at stoppages, and I remembered that AFLW had removed time on for stoppages and throw ins, so I watched the start of the last quarter and indeed there was no time on for those events.

So I looked up the rule and found out that;


Duration of match and intervals between quarters
Increased quarter length to 17 minutes in total, broken down into 15 minutes with time on for goals or major injuries only, and the additional two minutes with time on for all match stoppages.

The length of the interval at quarter-time and three-quarter-time will be reduced from six minutes and 30 seconds to six minutes, and that the length of interval at half-time will be reduced from 16 minutes to 14 minutes.


This link also has the clarification of the last touch rule between the 50m arcs, which is better than the SANFL rule, ie you are having a shot for goal inside 50m arc and you kick goes out of bounds, AFLW no free to oppo, SANFL free to oppo.

When a goal is scored in both AFL and AFLW there is a 45 second break for commercials to be slotted in, but the clock is stopped for about 1 minute of real time as the clock doesn't count down until umpires have actually bounced/thrown up ball, so about 15 seconds is taken for umpire to receive the OK in their ear piece and wall in and bounce/throw it up. Sometime in men's game it takes the umpire longer to set themselves and bounce the ball as they aren't confident and its about 69 second break between clock stopping and restarting.

So this is how long it took for the quarters to run;

1st 21.02, 3 goals scored, last 2 minutes took 4.00 as a goal was scored at and after umpire signal 1.53 was left.

2nd 20.50, 3 goals scored, last 2 minutes took 2.50, Hawks scored 2 pts.

3rd 19.49, 2 goals scored, last 2 minutes took 2.48, Hawks scored 1 pt.

4th 22.42, 5 goals scored, last 2 minutes took 2.55, Port scored 2 pts.

Most of these quarters with the same amount of goals scored in the men's game would take between 30-32 minutes. Maybe they should do the same thing with the men's game with either 15 or 18 minutes with no stoppages apart from goals and injuries, and either the last 5 or 2 minutes have time on for stoppages, out bounds and when points are scored.
I agree REH. I really like the last touch between the arcs only in the aflw. The sanfl sucks in this regard. Forever blowing time on makes me crazy too. I remember when they first brought it in to stop time wasting at stoppages and I've never liked it.
 
I agree REH. I really like the last touch between the arcs only in the aflw. The sanfl sucks in this regard. Forever blowing time on makes me crazy too. I remember when they first brought it in to stop time wasting at stoppages and I've never liked it.
The game just goes too long now for all these stoppages and things like goal reviews to see if a little pinkie bent backwards and we go thru 25 replays and goal umpires not having the confidence to make simple calls so more replays, especially after that crows goal non review against swans a couple of seasons ago.
 
Opps, sorry mate. I'm sort of glancing during work time, so I didn't look back far enough in the thread.
I posted the rule a few minutes after your post/ question as I was addressing my own question about it, so you wouldn't have seen it.
 
Missed the game but just watched the replay, Jesus that last quarter was something else, looked completely dead and buried at 3/4 time too. But peeled back the 22 point deficit despite 3 posters too.

Great win.


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Could have been a seven goal last quarter
Wouldn't think that's been done before
 

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