Traded Shai Bolton, pick 14 & F3 (Rich) traded to Fremantle for picks 10, 11 & 18

[Wee Jessies]

2 firsts were never on the table from Hawks, was WA media spin to set the bar high.

If WCE F2( or pick 26) and some of Barass salary is paid, I will take the above deal.

I am sure Freo will want some of Bolton's salary to be paid as well. GC will want the same for Rioli too as plain 6 for Rioli is pretty high.

Agreed if significant salary is paid (30+%) then that changes the trade.

 

[Wee Jessies]

You used Tigers pick 24 to do the same also 2 firsts were never on the table from Hawks, was WA media spin to set the bar high. But if pick 14 is required by tigers then pick 24 has to be on table.

If WCE F2( or pick 26) and some of Barass salary is paid, I will take the above deal.

I am sure Freo will want some of Bolton's salary to be paid as well. GC will want the same for Rioli too as plain 6 for Rioli is pretty high.

My point was it shouldn't come from GC. Pick 24 from Richmond is because receiving 14 on it's own for Baker is too much. Richmond probably think 24 is too much going back, hence the need to probably square things away with F2s and F3s.

 

[dean33]

So Freos first offer was 10&18, tigers first offer was 10,11 & 18. Both Blair and Walls will compromise and end up agreeing on 10&11.
Win - win

 

[MadMundy]

The delusion is insane

Not really delusion when we ended up losing 3 of our most important players in the last month. If at the least Treacy and Pearce play that last month we would have played finals.

Bolton would be great, but he's not the difference between finals and no finals.

 

[THECHIEFTON]

Not really delusion when we ended up losing 3 of our most important players in the last month. If at the least Treacy and Pearce play that last month we would have played finals.

Bolton would be great, but he's not the difference between finals and no finals.

So you're relying on Darcy and Pearce to not get injured to make finals?

Good luck with that.

 

[4tune8]

Not really delusion when we ended up losing 3 of our most important players in the last month. If at the least Treacy and Pearce play that last month we would have played finals.

Bolton would be great, but he's not the difference between finals and no finals.

Correct, he's the difference between winning finals rather than just making finals

 

[Morro]

Not really delusion when we ended up losing 3 of our most important players in the last month. If at the least Treacy and Pearce play that last month we would have played finals.

Bolton would be great, but he's not the difference between finals and no finals.

This really highlights your lack of depth would you say? Also, they missed a month, what about the rest of the season? Bolton would 100% have been the difference.

 

[fnerd]

Getting closer and closer to squeaky bum time for the tiggys

Harmless Hartley better no **** this up for RFC sake

Having to trade Bolten 12 mths later whilst being spooners again but this time costing nothing but an f1 would be nothing short of an unmitigated disaster

 

[Waterhouzin]

I hope we’ve put the same offer of 10 and 18 to Melbourne for Kozzie and first one to bite gets the goods.
He’s just as much a need as Bolton, younger and will be on a lower wage.


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[MadMundy]

So you're relying on Darcy and Pearce to not get injured to make finals?

Good luck with that.

Pearce has been pretty fit the last couple of years, I think even just Treacy playing gets us there, he doesn't go down in the Essendon game and they don't come back.

Treacy is our most important player by far, will be one of if not the best key forward in the competition one day, is only 21 and contributing what he does.

 

[THECHIEFTON]

Pearce has been pretty fit the last couple of years, I think even just Treacy playing gets us there, he doesn't go down in the Essendon game and they don't come back.

Treacy is our most important player by far, will be one of if not the best key forward in the competition one day, is only 21 and contributing what he does.

Treacy definitely was a big loss. I see a full strength Freo + Bolton making top 4 easily next year.

 

[Grrr]

You know Bolton could get injured and miss the whole year too? Nothing is certain.

There are 22 players on the field, Freo will need improvement from the bulk of their young guns too to really step up plus a bit better injury luck.

Richmond also has a ticking time bomb coming so any delays in the rebuild will add years, not just 1 year. Is it really worth 7 spots in the draft? The difference between 11 & 18 will mean you can get a small, hbf or KPP without reaching as you don’t need 4 mids in one go.

I don't disagree with much of that other than it is two sides jousting, we want 11, you 18. One side will get what they asked or a compromise in between. But in my eyes, Bolton is Richmond's best player and a far better player than is being touted on here. He is worth the asking price.

But if we get 18, so be it. It is a win for Freo and a loss for Richmond no matter how the draft pics pan out.

 

[Wee Jessies]

I don't disagree with much of that other than it is two sides jousting, we want 11, you 18. One side will get what they asked or a compromise in between. But in my eyes, Bolton is Richmond's best player and a far better player than is being touted on here. He is worth the asking price.

But if we get 18, so be it. It is a win for Freo and a loss for Richmond no matter how the draft pics pan out.

Is 11 a win for Richmond and a loss for Freo?

 

[Grrr]

Is 11 a win for Richmond and a loss for Freo?

Well it's a win for Richmond as far as draft picks go, but we lose with Bolton leaving. Softens the blow slightly,

A loss for Freo as far as draft picks go, but a big win for you getting Bolton, (or any other high-quality player).

 

[Mesc]

Treacy definitely was a big loss. I see a full strength Freo + Bolton making top 4 easily next year.

Well that’s Freo cursed for another year

 

[Dr Tigris]

Not really delusion when we ended up losing 3 of our most important players in the last month. If at the least Treacy and Pearce play that last month we would have played finals.

Bolton would be great, but he's not the difference between finals and no finals.

If you get Shai you'll find that he changes things a lot.

He is a pure attacking weapon. A brilliant ball winner, one of the best at putting the ball to the teams advantage in the AFL, creator out of nothing and goal scorer. In a team that wins the ball and allows him to attack he is amazing. in team that isn't winning his talents are often wasted. He creates options through the midfield and attack for the team well above the goals he scores.

If used properly he can take Freo to the next level, on his own. Big if there. But an amazing player - potentially.

 

[WilloTree]

So Freos first offer was 10&18, tigers first offer was 10,11 & 18. Both Blair and Walls will compromise and end up agreeing on 10&11.
Win - win

Are we still talking about Shai Bolton?

 

[Mesc]

Are we still talking about Shai Bolton?

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

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Getting closer and closer to squeaky bum time for the tiggys

Harmless Hartley better no **** this up for RFC sake

Having to trade Bolten 12 mths later whilst being spooners again but this time costing nothing but an f1 would be nothing short of an unmitigated disaster

I’ll bet you never misspell Shais surname when he plays for you.

And name calling recruiters? Are you 5?

Poor.

Do better.

 

[Danog]

Not really delusion when we ended up losing 3 of our most important players in the last month. If at the least Treacy and Pearce play that last month we would have played finals.

Bolton would be great, but he's not the difference between finals and no finals.

Nothing is a guarantee. Your club has won nothing. I don't see where this arrogance is coming from.

 

[hawkinoz]

You are using GC pick 23 to balance it all out. That shouldn't have to paid on top of pick 6 for Rioli. You are trying to protect your 1st pick in this draft plus Hawthorn shouldn't get any change from F1 and 33 for Barrass, might not even be enough.

Freo: Bolton ( give - 10, 18)
GC: Rioli, ( give - 6)
Haw: Barrass, 24 ( give - 14, F1)
Rich: 6, 10, 14, 18 ( give - Rioli, Bolton, Baker, 24)
WC: Baker, F1 ( give - Barass)

F2s and F3s to balance out so WCE could give Haw an F2 for instance if that was felt to be uneven.

Values Barass at pick 8, probably too high
Rioli Pick 6
Bolton Pick 2
Baker Upgrade of Pick 24 into Pick 14 maybe not enough

Reading this thread now I can see Freo's 1st offer was 10,18 so they are doing well from the trade and tigers want your 11. See my reworked one

Freo: Bolton,14, 23 ( give - 10, 11, 18, 30)
GC: Rioli,33 ( give - 6,23)
Haw: Barrass, 24, 26, F2 ( give - 14, 33, F1)
Rich: 6, 10, 11, F1 ( give - Rioli, Bolton, Baker, 24)
WC: Baker, 18, 30 ( give - Barass, F2, 26)

Assumptions of 1st offer
Free - 10+18 for Bolton
GC - 6 for Rioli
Haw - 14 or F1 for Barrass

But pick 14 may disappear soon, Sydney 19+22 most likely as Suns didn't trade their 13 for same.

 

[Sully90]

Despite the posturing on here, I actually thought this deal would have been done by now.

 

[MadMundy]

Nothing is a guarantee. Your club had won nothing. I don't see where thus arrogance is coming from.

Arrogance? I don't think it's arrogance at all, I think our team is good enough to play finals, with or without Bolton, nothing wrong with that.

 

[Danog]

Arrogance? I don't think it's arrogance at all, I think our team is good enough to play finals, with or without Bolton, nothing wrong with that.

You probably thought the same this year. Look what happened.

 

[MadMundy]

You probably thought the same this year. Look what happened.

Considering we were top 4 before our injuries going into the last month, yeah I'd hazard to say it felt like we were a good chance, I think most people had us having a home final at that point.