I still want to know if we asked. Damning on Pyke if we didnt.
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List Mgmt. Should The Eagles Request A Priority Assistance Package at The End of This Year?
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I still want to know if we asked. Damning on Pyke if we didnt.
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Ditto for me.
To crap on about interstate team being disadvantage with travel and requesting equalization via fixtures and then to not take opportunity of PP makes no sense.
BTW, Floated a model for travel equalization as plenty of evidence that travel impacts longevity in game in some forums.
Using the current list numbers and salary cap as a baseline, the number of list spots and subsequent salary cap space is adjusted based on travel.
Example of how would work, for every 10,000 klms over the average (~25,000 in 2023) you get an extra list spot and salary cap. Based on 2023 it would look like the following,
- 3 for WCE (57000)
- 2 for Freo (51000) & GC (54000)
- 1 for PA (35000 & Bris (32000)
- anyone under 15000 should lose one but will let that one go.
On Average each year the WA teams would always get a minimum of 2, QLD / SA teams will get 1 except if they fall below average for the previous year. Recall draw is announced in November around same time as draft so align, could have worked out extra list spots before draft.
Might make Vic clubs put their hand up for additional travel interstate if they get an extra list spot!!
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We won too many games this year. We won't be getting anything. If it was another 2 or 3 win season we would have been given something.
I've said it already and whilst i'm a long way from the club atm afaik nothing has changed.
1. Head coach had to change
2. Club needed to win less than 5 games
Club won 5 games, unless there's some ****ing miracle it's not happening this year.
1. Head coach had to change
2. Club needed to win less than 5 games
Club won 5 games, unless there's some ****ing miracle it's not happening this year.
****s me off that the AFL decided there was some sort of magic criteria all of of a sudden to get assistance. Like they gave the same ultimatum to Norf for the endless assistance they have gotten.
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Let's compare our trajectory to North...
NM
2019 - 10 wins, 99.5%
2020 - 3 wins, 71.2% (Bottomed out)
2021 - 4 wins 1 draw, 70.3%
2022 - 2 wins, 55.8% (Sacked coach, PP: 2nd round pick 2023, 3rd round pick 2023, extra list spots)
2023 - 3 wins, 71.5% (PP: 1st round picks 2023, 2x 1st round picks 2024, extended rookie list)
2024 - 3 wins, 63.5%
WCE
2021 - 10 wins, 93.2%
2022 - 2 wins, 59.8% (Bottomed out)
2023 - 3 wins, 53%
2024 - 5 wins, 68.1% (Sacked coach)
Eerily similar numbers - we are 2 years behind NM, have won 0.5 games more at ~5% less.
AFL's position of less than 5 wins this season is horseshit IMO. We're essentially in the same position as NM were when they got their first PP package.
Yes we snagged a flag in 2018, but NM were playing prelims in 2014 & 2015. They weren't an unsuccessful side.
NM
2019 - 10 wins, 99.5%
2020 - 3 wins, 71.2% (Bottomed out)
2021 - 4 wins 1 draw, 70.3%
2022 - 2 wins, 55.8% (Sacked coach, PP: 2nd round pick 2023, 3rd round pick 2023, extra list spots)
2023 - 3 wins, 71.5% (PP: 1st round picks 2023, 2x 1st round picks 2024, extended rookie list)
2024 - 3 wins, 63.5%
WCE
2021 - 10 wins, 93.2%
2022 - 2 wins, 59.8% (Bottomed out)
2023 - 3 wins, 53%
2024 - 5 wins, 68.1% (Sacked coach)
Eerily similar numbers - we are 2 years behind NM, have won 0.5 games more at ~5% less.
AFL's position of less than 5 wins this season is horseshit IMO. We're essentially in the same position as NM were when they got their first PP package.
Yes we snagged a flag in 2018, but NM were playing prelims in 2014 & 2015. They weren't an unsuccessful side.
So there is only a win criteria when it applies to us. GAGF VFL
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Not really. North had 3 season of under 5 wins when they got their PPs (now 5 seasons). We had 2.
We have at least showed some improvement this year whereas North have been stuck at the same point for 5 seasons now.
The old PP system was based on 5 wins. They would still use it as an indicator just not advertise it.
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Brisbane got a priority pick in 2016 .
The 3 seasons prior were 15th (7wins) 17th (4wins) 17th(3wins)
We have 10 wins in the last 3 seasons including a spoon
2020 was a 17 game season, I know nth were bad, but 3/17 would usually equate to either 4 or 5 wins in a 22/23 round season (I get it doesn’t quite work that way, but it is the best estimate we have).
Also conversely 2 of our poor seasons have been in years of historically high games played (23/24 both have 23 games compared to 22 in prior years).
So us winning a game, or half a game, more than north is actually statistically very close to on par.
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Not at all.
I'm against compensation picks and priority picks. Hate them.
I am for a reverse draft though.
But as the long the system is compromised by fs/Acadamy/compensation/priority picks, we would be incompetent not to get benefit we can.
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NM averaged 3.17 wins per season over 3 years at the point they received their first PP package. Their % was about 66%.
WC has averaged 3.33 wins per season over 3 years. Our % has been about 60%.
Let's also remember that teams played less games in the period 2020 to 2022 (61 games in total) compared to 68 for the period 2022 to 2024. So comparing seasons doesn't make a heap of sense - NM won 15.6% (9.5 wins, 51.5 losses) of all games played between 2020 to 2022, WCE has won 14.7% (10 wins, 58 losses) of all games played between 2022 to 2024.
The arbitrary "oh a 5 wins in a single season voids your application" is straight up horseshit. NM drew a game that we won, that's the only difference over 3 seasons. Meanwhile WC have played more games than NM, lost more games, and by larger margins.
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Get this on Pyke and Dillon's desks
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No news of us asking for a priority pick ?
This time last year norf had submitted paperwork and told everyone publicly that they had.
This is 100% something that needs to be done publicly so if we are rejected everyone on the afl landscape can know why .
Keeping things out of the media works against us sometimes and we need to learn when to push that button
This time last year norf had submitted paperwork and told everyone publicly that they had.
This is 100% something that needs to be done publicly so if we are rejected everyone on the afl landscape can know why .
Keeping things out of the media works against us sometimes and we need to learn when to push that button
Mate, it's not going to happen. AFL probably told us "no" behind closed doors so we've moved on.
Adelaide never got a priority pick either, despite being bad for 5 years and counting.
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I don't see the harm in putting it on the public record that we asked and the reasons why it didn't happen .
**** this behind closed doors shit. AFL doesn't want it out there so they don't look like hypocrites down the road
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This time last year the North compensation had been announced - was in the week before the GF as the AFL commission meet around the time of the Brownlow when those things are decided
We either didn’t ask or were privately told no
Like you’ve posted, I do hope Pyke makes it known why we didn’t apply or, if we did, why our request was denied. Needs to be made public
Adelaide won 11 games last season.
I'd like to know if we applied, regardless of the outcome.
Wish there were some real journos around to ask those types of questions at pressers instead of just 38 questions about Harley Reid
The standard of journalism shits me to tears. It's so important for accountability etc and we get nothing. This is a much bigger topic than football and I have no solutions given no one wants to pay for it and everyone (including me) uses adblockers. I can rant for hours, but I will stop.
Absolutely weak from Don and the team to not pursue this aggressively. This was a key lever we needed to pull.
So much for his spiel. Failed at the very first hurdle.
So much for his spiel. Failed at the very first hurdle.
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