SK blame inaccuracy for GF humiliation

[forwardflanker]

its on their board, but i'm to scared to post there, lol. I think a better explanation would be their ordinary bottom 10 players. Discuss.

 

[kane249]

I don't think it's that silly a notion. It was 11 scoring shots to 9 at half time, if the saints had kicked 6.3 to half time instead of 1.8 then they would have only gone in 2 points down and been right in the match. So when you made your move in the 3rd they wouldn't have had as much to do to get back in the game, but of course history shows it didn't pan out that way.

Similarly if Collingwood had kicked straight before half time in the first Grand Final, then we wouldn't be having this discussion to begin with.

 

[Mordecai]

The Sam Gilbert move was a good one... unfortunately he misfired... several times. There is some merit to what they say.

 

[kosifantutti]

its on their board, but i'm to scared to post there, lol. I think a better explanation would be their ordinary bottom 10 players. Discuss.

Bad kicking is bad football and Collingwood deserved their victory. But you do realise it was a replay and those same 10 players were in the drawn grand final.

 

[Gooka]

Yep. Clokes innacuracy in GF1 meant they got humiliated in GF2.

 

[Plugger35]

It was a factor you twit, if we had of kicked straight we would have been right back in it at half time and the 2nd half may have been a different story.

We were hardly humiliated either, you broke away in the 3rd quarter and after that our players heads dropped when we knew we were out of the game. The final margin was misleading as to the difference between the two sides.

I just wish we could have finished the job in the first GF so we wouldn't have to put up with arrogant Collingwood knobs like yourself.

 

[Johnny619]

Inaccuracy is only a factor when it happens to Collingwood. Just like it used to be umpires and injuries.

 

[G.O.B]

We were hardly humiliated either, you broke away in the 3rd quarter and after that our players heads dropped when we knew we were out of the game. The final margin was misleading as to the difference between the two sides.

You're kidding yourself if you think your club wasn't humiliated by it's performance in GF2.

1 goal half way through the 3rd and 6 in total.
56 point loss after the winning team put the cue in the rack 10 minutes into the last.
No goals from your captain and best player on the park. Add his embarrasing moment and that's a humiliation.
Your "bottom six" which probably extended out to your "bottom 10" were horribly exposed on the biggest stage.

 

[colin_wood]

The Sam Gilbert move was a good one... unfortunately he misfired... several times. There is some merit to what they say.

Thats what you get when you put a backman forward

 

[Gunn Reserve]

It was a factor you twit, if we had of kicked straight we would have been right back in it at half time and the 2nd half may have been a different story.

We were hardly humiliated either, you broke away in the 3rd quarter and after that our players heads dropped when we knew we were out of the game. The final margin was misleading as to the difference between the two sides.

I just wish we could have finished the job in the first GF so we wouldn't have to put up with arrogant Collingwood knobs like yourself.

Suck it up princess... You were'nt good enough, period.

As Gooka said, Cloke kicks straight in GF1, the same thing would have happened.

Jog on

 

[mad_eagle]

Well yeh...those misses early in the second cost them dearly, as well as expending a sh1teload of energy. Who knows what might've happened if they kicked straight and got a run on.

 

[andypie]

I think its fair to blame innacuracy as a factor for not being in a position to put pressure on Collingwood, but not for losing the game. Stkilda needed to get close enough to try and put some doubt and pressure in the pies players minds, but through innaccuracy were unable to do so. When you have all the play and cant put the score on the board, it can become very deflating, especially in a grand final replay where basically both sides are hoping the other cracks first.

 

[bulletproof]

Bad kicking is bad football and Collingwood deserved their victory. But you do realise it was a replay and those same 10 players were in the drawn grand final.

Amazing that it has been forgotten that the real Grand Final was drawn isn't?

 

[Shawt]

In GF 1, the pressure got to us

In GF 2, the pressure got to St Kilda.

Their accuracy issues were more of a reflection of how under the pump they were. I take it as a compliment to the Pies gamestyle that their accuracy suffered

 

[jmirra]

dont see the problem its true

 

[BazzaTheBogan]

What do they expect when the master plan is to put a backman forward LOL.

The simple fact is we smashed them all over the ground. Absolutely smashed them haha.

We exposed that list for what it is, after the top 8-10 players, one of the worst.

 

[Ants]

Well duh. That was pretty obvious at half time before St Kilda dropped their bundle.

But why all the finger-pointing at Gilbert? What about Riewoldt.

Obviously everyone knows if he'd had half a brain and gone back and kicked that first goal in the square that will be through. But he also had the second one in the first quarter where he was running in alone about 45m out or so, and missed. That was a pretty straightforward shot. It also went straight back down the other end for a goal.

Between those three it was an 18 point turn around, and the captain had set the theme for the afternoon. It turns a pretty insipid Riewoldt performance into "he's on fire" at quarter time.

If he scores those two goals and Collingwood then doesn't get the rebound from the point, its all pretty even a quarter time. Take that as a base, get a bit more reward for their period of dominance in the first part of the 2nd quarter (cough Gilbert cough), and who knows what happens.

As it was, they were so far behind at half-time that if Collingwood got any of the first goals you could see them drop their head. And it happenned that way, and rather than just dropping their heads they completely gave up.

But don't have any doubts that if the scores are close at half time, Collingwood's job in the second wouldn't have been the joyride they actually got. Would have been more like GF1.

 

[Cudi_420]

In GF 1, the pressure got to us

In GF 2, the pressure got to St Kilda.

Their accuracy issues were more of a reflection of how under the pump they were. I take it as a compliment to the Pies gamestyle that their accuracy suffered

Exactly. I hate when people say, "if we were accurate we would have won". Well, no, you would have kicked a better score, but you don't know if you would have won.

You can get your hands on the ball a million times. If you don't kick the goal, you're just not good enough on the day.

 

[red+black]

What about Riewoldt.

I thought it would be a bad day when Riewoldt stuffed up that early shot in the goal square. As great a smother it was from Shaw, it was mind-numbingly stupid from Riewoldt to not either dribble the ball across the line or simply go back and take his shot. Didn't determine the result but it was a poor sign for St Kilda and a great sign for Collingwood.

 

[Beamsmagic]

It was a factor you twit, if we had of kicked straight we would have been right back in it at half time and the 2nd half may have been a different story.

We were hardly humiliated either, you broke away in the 3rd quarter and after that our players heads dropped when we knew we were out of the game. The final margin was misleading as to the difference between the two sides.

I just wish we could have finished the job in the first GF so we wouldn't have to put up with arrogant Collingwood knobs like yourself.

Hmmm - a 9 goal slapping and your captain getting smashed by a 50 game player is humiliating I reckon

 

[unstable punt]

Inaccuracy is only a factor when it happens to Collingwood. Just like it used to be umpires and injuries.

touche'

 

[The_Koach]

its on their board, but i'm to scared to post there, lol. I think a better explanation would be their ordinary bottom 10 players. Discuss.

gone quiet FF? not many people agreeing with you at this stage....

 

[The Big League]

I think there is some merit to it.
I don't think them kicking accurately would have translated into them winning the flag, because we played better than they did for 3/4's of the game.

However had they kicked straight in the second quarter who knows?
There are a lot of 'what if's' in football, and you can do it all day, what it won't do however is change the result.

 

[pies_this_year]

It was a factor you twit, if we had of kicked straight we would have been right back in it at half time and the 2nd half may have been a different story.

We were hardly humiliated either, you broke away in the 3rd quarter and after that our players heads dropped when we knew we were out of the game. The final margin was misleading as to the difference between the two sides.

I just wish we could have finished the job in the first GF so we wouldn't have to put up with arrogant Collingwood knobs like yourself.

Ahhhh, posts like this make the win even more special.

Collingwood: PREMIERS 2010

 

[AP Erebus]

In GF 1, the pressure got to us

In GF 2, the pressure got to St Kilda.

Their accuracy issues were more of a reflection of how under the pump they were. I take it as a compliment to the Pies gamestyle that their accuracy suffered

This is pretty accurate.

To me, it absolutely contributed, but to suggest that it cost us the game is ridiculous.