So who do you want in the PSD.

[mezaire]

I like the look of Wilson alot, as said above could be the next Wirrapanda and from that vid has elite foot skills.

So something like;
PSD - Houlihan
Rookie - Wilson, Chalwell, and ???

Not sure on the third rookie spot, maybe Cooyou or that young guy from Port Adelaide??

A quick question.........if we use our PSD draft pick for Hiulihan, can we still upgrade a rookie mid season?

Either way there is a fair liklyhood of a LT injury and no doubt Hams is first cab off the rank.

Mez

 

[Underdog]

If you read some more of the forum you will see that Collingwood indicated they were going to draft him, so that's why the Eagles swooped.

Well that's a very poor reason.

 

[tesseract]

If you actually analyse our playing list we have plenty of room for Wilson.

There's a perception we have too many half-backs but any team would have at least a dozen guys that can play off half-back.

Wilson is an absolute elite kick and excellent game nous. I see him as our Wirrpanda replacement.

In time he'll allow Hurn, Sheppard, Stevenson and Smith to play roles further up the ground, and I can see him taking kick-in duties.

Blayne can also play well up forward, which is probably a little-known fact... and we certainly have room for a medium forward.

I don't see Wilson as a Wirrpanda replacement. Wilson is a medium, Wirra was a small. I see Wilson as another Bones replacement.

I agree regarding the kick ins. WC are trying to move Hurn away from that duty, and I don't have a lot of confidence in Schofield doing the kick ins.

I read somewhere that Wilson is a one position player. (I'm not against the selection of such players) Without having yet to dig up more info on him, I don't know if this is actually the case or not.

Finding players on a list who can play as HBF's is not hard. Most, if not all, midfielders, mediums and agile talls can play there. I reckon there's roughly 30 players on our list who could play there. That's not to say all are equally suitable or capable in that role though.

 

[Coledinho]

Houlihan or Hams for me.

 

[kane249]

Ffs people read the rules, we can't draft Hams as he's on our rookie list for next year already. Houlihan is an unlikely PSD pick as well seeing as we just delisted him, he will be our first pick in the Rookie draft.

 

[Coledinho]

Ffs people read the rules, we can't draft Hams as he's on our rookie list for next year already. Houlihan is an unlikely PSD pick as well seeing as we just delisted him, he will be our first pick in the Rookie draft.

Hams can still be promoted off our rookie list...

Anyone but Blayne Wilson IMO. Last thing we need is another medium defender.

 

[Obeanie1]

Jordan Jones, Jacob Brennan and Blayne Wilson, all medium defenders. All 3 will find it hard to get games in 2011. Blayne may well be worthy of selection as best available, but how many of his positional type does the team need. To take another medium backman is overkill.

He won't play a single game next year with those injuries and rehab. B Jones, Nokiski and Embley will be gone next season and several of the current "depth half backs" can and will play elsewhere. Sheppard, Smith > wing, J Jones, Hurn also can play mid.

Sounds like he's a kid with great foot skills, reads the game well and has a go at it. Has had OP / injury issues that has dropped his value. That makes him an excellent PSD or rookie option.

 

[getgaff]

4 points.

1) First prefernce is a small to medium size midfielder or forward with pace
2) Second preference Challwell or Wilson
3) Whats the consensus on Anton Hamp. Wouldnt be a bad selection imo. Maybe as a rookie?
4) Do we have 1st pick because if we do John Anthony's there. So's Cam Bruce

 

[Nickos66]

Hams can still be promoted off our rookie list...

Maybe if you're into burning picks, namely your PSD pick for someone who's already guaranteed to be on your list for next season, yeah go for it hey.

I also think that the decision to delist Hansen only a day after the draft was not brought about by the stunning turnaround of a weeks pre-season training from one Tim Houlihan.. Not a shot at Timmy but it was clearly for some other reason so he won't be your PSD pick.

 

[tesseract]

He won't play a single game next year with those injuries and rehab. B Jones, Nokiski and Embley will be gone next season and several of the current "depth half backs" can and will play elsewhere. Sheppard, Smith > wing, J Jones, Hurn also can play mid.

Sounds like he's a kid with great foot skills, reads the game well and has a go at it. Has had OP / injury issues that has dropped his value. That makes him an excellent PSD or rookie option.

His current injuries make no difference as he won't likely get a game in 2011 even if fit, IMO.

HBF is a position most can play, as it doesn't require a specialist in this position. Most players, barring Ruckman and lumbering KPP, can play there. I looked through our list and noted 30 odd players who could play there, to varying capability.
The HBF position can be used for a player with a specific skill who adds a wanted quality in that area, like Hurn with his kicking; or it can be as a filler position to be used to fit someone in you want to have play, but have someone rated ahead of him in the position that he'd normally play.

I don't doubt Wilson's value as a PSD pick or his quality as a player, I just don't think he's a needed type. His foot skills may make him too good to pass up though. Two guys with excellent kicks in Hurn and Wilson in the backline sounds good, but I don't think his other attributes make him worthy of a pick up. I'm sure WC have already got that from among the many who could play that role.

As I've noted previously, I'm not against the selection of Wilson, just concerned by the abundance of players who're already on our list who're capable of playing the role. WC have more pressing needs to fill before taking another HBF/BP.

Hurn won't play midfield. His body shape gives him power in short bursts, not the endurance required to use what he has over and over again for the necessary period of time.

JoJo is going to struggle to get into the team as a HBF/BP, let alone as a rotating midfielder, of whom WC can't even squeeze in to play the ones they currently have.

With Rosa, Sheppard, Gaff and Stevenson, Smith won't get a chance to play on a wing. Like Hurn, Smith's body shape gives him power in bursts, not the endurance to cover the kilometres required by a Wingman.

Nicoski and Embley are/should be HFF's. They can play as HBF's, but should be well down the pecking order for spots in that role.

 

[eagles rule]

we need to find a speedy 6ft winger or outside receiver with good skills and who likes kicking goals and he doesn`t have to be wa player so we should be looking at everyone that missed in the main draft or in the various state leagues . any suggestions?

 

[swannies]

we need to find a speedy 6ft winger or outside receiver with good skills and who likes kicking goals and he doesn`t have to be wa player so we should be looking at everyone that missed in the main draft or in the various state leagues . any suggestions?

Blight?

 

[eagles rule]

Blight?

if he fills those needs sure I want him.

 

[Galileo9]

not sure why people continue to want other clubs' rejects. sure he could be homesick, but he clearly isnt mentally tough enough to bring himself up to play AFL. besides, players who play AFL all of a sudden become less homesick.

I dont buy into this whole we were interested in him in that draft either with our picks 18& 20. we also passed him up at no.36. we couldnt have been THAT keen then.

 

[eagles rule]

not sure why people continue to want other clubs' rejects. sure he could be homesick, but he clearly isnt mentally tough enough to bring himself up to play AFL. besides, players who play AFL all of a sudden become less homesick.

I dont buy into this whole we were interested in him in that draft either with our picks 18& 20. we also passed him up at no.36. we couldnt have been THAT keen then.

you mean Blight ?

 

[Eastern Rangers]

His current injuries make no difference as he won't likely get a game in 2011 even if fit, IMO.

That would be totally dependent on form.

HBF is a position most can play, as it doesn't require a specialist in this position. Most players, barring Ruckman and lumbering KPP, can play there. I looked through our list and noted 30 odd players who could play there, to varying capability.

You would no doubt include those who struggle to hit targets down the line?

The HBF position can be used for a player with a specific skill who adds a wanted quality in that area, like Hurn with his kicking; or it can be as a filler position to be used to fit someone in you want to have play, but have someone rated ahead of him in the position that he'd normally play.

Do or do you not need skilled half back flankers? or can you throw any old arse about footballer on the back flank and get away with it?

The first part is true, the second claim is false. He's the best available player for that position/ role or he doesn't play.

I don't doubt Wilson's value as a PSD pick or his quality as a player, I just don't think he's a needed type. His foot skills may make him too good to pass up though. Two guys with excellent kicks in Hurn and Wilson in the backline sounds good, but I don't think his other attributes make him worthy of a pick up. I'm sure WC have already got that from among the many who could play that role.

Spatial awarness, game sense, strength overhead and defensivly sound. You don't doubt his value as a PSD pick but don't think he's suitable?

Id much rather go for best available in the PSD and then go for needs in the Rookie draft. Do it the other way around and your in for some trouble!

As I've noted previously, I'm not against the selection of Wilson, just concerned by the abundance of players who're already on our list who're capable of playing the role. WC have more pressing needs to fill before taking another HBF/BP.

Waters - Kicking is shite but his one percenters and negative efforts are excellent.
Butler - Durability though i do rate him has a better defender than Waters and his disposal is tidy.
Jordan Jones - Strong defensivly, work in close is outstanding (midfielder). Over cooks and under cooks kicks coming out of defence.
Brennan - Real speed and ok kicking, decision making needs improving and skills refining.
Stevenson - Excellent kick but still doesn't show the physical pressence of a backmen.
Smith - See above. He's also a natural shark and probably better suited forward of centre.
Sheppard - A real dasher that id love to see moved onto a wing.

Wilson is probably a better kick than all of them and certainly better defensivly than Sheppard, Smith and Stevenson. The option of releasing Sheppard, Smith or Stevenson into space further up the ground should be looked as an attractive option and one that could really add some power to our future midfield.

Hurn won't play midfield. His body shape gives him power in short bursts, not the endurance required to use what he has over and over again for the necessary period of time.

I agree and i don't see any need to move Hurn out of defense. Giving a more offensive role within our structure makes sense and we will need sound defenders to take that role. It's a role i don't see Sheppard, Stevenson or Smith being capable of at this stage.

JoJo is going to struggle to get into the team as a HBF/BP, let alone as a rotating midfielder, of whom WC can't even squeeze in to play the ones they currently have.

Thats a concern but he's still a better midfielder at WAFL level than a rebounding defender.

With Rosa, Sheppard, Gaff and Stevenson, Smith won't get a chance to play on a wing. Like Hurn, Smith's body shape gives him power in bursts, not the endurance to cover the kilometres required by a Wingman.

I suggest you re-visit this claim after this preseason.

Nicoski and Embley are/should be HFF's. They can play as HBF's, but should be well down the pecking order for spots in that role.

Yet both have spent a fair portion of their time of the Half back flank. Infact Nicoski played that role for only a handful of games in 2010. Neither of these players are best 22 playing HBF or HFF.

 

[Obeanie1]

Spatial awarness, game sense, strength overhead and defensivly sound. You don't doubt his value as a PSD pick but don't think he's suitable?

Wilson is probably a better kick than all of them and certainly better defensivly than Sheppard, Smith and Stevenson. The option of releasing Sheppard, Smith or Stevenson into space further up the ground should be looked as an attractive option and one that could really add some power to our future midfield.
.

And this is why we should be looking at a Wilson. We should be getting the best kickers and players who read the game well who are available.

Its the PSD people so the best and the fittest have been taken. So we either go for someone who's a great athlete who needs to develop their game and skills or we go for a highly skilled player with footy smarts who has slid because of injury issues.

Best avalaible for me.

 

[getgaff]

Any interest whatsoever in Cameron Bruce. A better mans Andrew Embley. Can play a number of different roles and will add some good experience to the list

After delisting Hansen maybe we are looking at Jack Anthony but i'd rather a younger KPP like Hamp, Chalwell or Menagola

Go for a small to medium midfielder/ forward with pace with psd pick 1. Elari from Perth would ahve to be an option. Mature aged and been in the WAFL system for a little now. Havent seen anything off Eades but apparently his a good thing. Adam Cockie re-listed in the RD??? If so i hope getting originally delisted is the kick in the pants he needed

Blight i'm not sure if i rate yet. Needs to bulk up

Was intersted in Deryck from Claremont before the draft as a pre season or rookie draft selection BUT than Lycett slipped and Deryck went to Richmond

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Any interest whatsoever in Cameron Bruce. A better mans Andrew Embley. Can play a number of different roles and will add some good experience to the list

Absolutely zero chance for 3 reasons

1) He is 31
2) He isn't that good - definitely reasonable - but at 31 - you'd want a star
3) He doesn't want to come here - and clubs generally show enough respect for blokes in the twilight of their career to not force them somewhere they didn't want to go.

 

[WCEforeverman]

Any interest whatsoever in Cameron Bruce. A better mans Andrew Embley. Can play a number of different roles and will add some good experience to the list

After delisting Hansen maybe we are looking at Jack Anthony but i'd rather a younger KPP like Hamp, Chalwell or Menagola

Go for a small to medium midfielder/ forward with pace with psd pick 1. Elari from Perth would ahve to be an option. Mature aged and been in the WAFL system for a little now. Havent seen anything off Eades but apparently his a good thing. Adam Cockie re-listed in the RD??? If so i hope getting originally delisted is the kick in the pants he needed

Blight i'm not sure if i rate yet. Needs to bulk up

Was intersted in Deryck from Claremont before the draft as a pre season or rookie draft selection BUT than Lycett slipped and Deryck went to Richmond

Bruce is too old.

 

[Coledinho]

Id take Jack Anthony for sheer comedic value if anything. Would be handy enough especially if we turn him into a defender.

 

[worsfold]

Happy with Wilson - best available I think

All Australian and AIS Graduate - you don't make those lists without being able to play.

Edit - not 2010

 

[Nickos66]

2009 AA, not 2010.

 

[BOND 007]

Blayne Wilson is easily the best option for WC in the PSD as compared to all the other names mentioned in this thread. IMO he is the equal to Hurley in kicking off both feet both in penetration and accuracy.

Whilst agreeing with Tessarect's belief that there are multiple options currently available to play in the backline, lets be honest apart from Hurn (and Glass) there is nobody who has cemented a place and in fact of the players of Wilsons size there is very little to be enthused about :

-- Butler is another major injury away from the scrapheap
-- Waters and Swift cant kick
-- Nicoski and Embley are finished
-- Smith and Stephenson lack the required aggression
-- Sheppard is more valuable though the centre
-- Adam Selwood is too slow to play anything other than BP

Cant comment on Brennan but like others I found WC's move to be odd.

The game of football today is all about being able to deliver the ball accurately across, between and over zones. WC have VERY few players currently on their list with this capability and Wilson offers just that option. This is a no brainer.

Note : know some people at Peel who believe Wilson's ego may have got ahead of his ability this year - so he should fit in well with Masten.

 

[Postman_Pav]

I personally would not touch Wilson unless i knew his speed testing results were greatly affected by his OP. You simply cannot have a halfback flanker with the lack of pace his times suggest. The limiteed footage of his pace is inconclusive.

If he was genuine KPP then you could maybe handle a lack of pace if he has smarts but he will have to play on some quicker nippy types at AFL level and his role is to stop them doing anything. I'd be worried that sides could easily expose him and then it wont matter how good a kick he is because he will be a massive liabity.