Cars & Transportation Speeding

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On the pip or orally.... ummm
Yeh speeding- the only coppers you gotta watch out for is the Highway Patrol. The ***** are out there to generate revenue. Bastards. All other officers are actually not bad and if you havn done anything wrong they dont break your balls.

In regards to cameras apparently the government is going to list suburbs in which cameras will be operating each morning.
Probably bullshit but if you warn drivers of where they are they might slow down when passing thru....
hang on that makes too much sense..
 

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Yeah I know but statistics show that more people die from suiciding rather then from car accidents, let alone speeding...

I think you will find more money being put into mental health would actually decrease car accidents and deaths caused by them.

You are talking as if all government funding goes into either area. More money into speed cameras does not automatically equal less into mental health.
 
cbf reading any reply to this thread but

doesnt this fall under the 'cops letting you off because you didnt bullshit them' unwritten law?
 
Better yet, imagine if all the money wasted on fear campaigns and revenue raising went in to actual driver training.

Make advanced driving courses mandatory every 5 years.

What they do now is clearly not working, because people still prefer to be ignorant on the roads.

While Im ranting, BAN ALL PHONES/GPS IN CARS.

I tend to agree with Shibz.

You can teach people to be excellent drivers within the road rules, but people will never be taught how to safely drive their cars at 150km on the highway. Stupidity with regards to risky driving and blatant disregard of the law leads to a shitload of accidents. I would bet that these same people could handle their cars very well if they followed the rules.

That's not to say that increased training should be ignored as it's very important as well.

You even wrote yourself that people choose to be ignorant on the roads. People aren't going to be trained to handle 200km racing conditions in suburban streets. Whether someone chooses to partake in such behaviour is a matter of character.

Again, in case you are thick and have comprehension difficulties, I am not arguing against your calls for increased training, but rather backing the validity of shibz' notion where by the mentality of drivers is also key.
 
The worst speeders, besides the ones that harm people or put others at risk, are the ones that rev their engines in the deperate attempt for attention.

Seldom will you find a more apt demonstration of tiny penis syndrome and essentially a person amidst failure in life.
 

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Yeh PK, I understand the point, I just think its a copout.

If anything, increasing the limits in line with increased training would be moving forwards to reducing aggravation and road rage with a lot of drivers. Sure, there will still be hoons, but it will help reduce the mental stress caused on the roads by slow, rude, selfish drivers.

Some people might not like driving at a higher speed, for whatever reason, but if it keeps them off the road and onto public transport, which might suit there pace a bit better, then the safety on the roads will improve exponentially.

We need to decrease the amount of incompetent drivers on the road, whether they are this way through mental illness or untrained or just plain stupid is almost irrelevant.

Slowing everybody down won't make the roads any more safer in my opinion, it makes it worse because people get too comfortable behind the wheel and pay less attention to whats happening around them.

Unfortunately, like in most situations in life these days, the few suicidal idiots are giving people that can handle high speeds a bad reputation.

Speed doesn't kill.

Being ignorant does.
 
1. Some people might not like driving at a higher speed, for whatever reason, but if it keeps them off the road and onto public transport, which might suit there pace a bit better, then the safety on the roads will improve exponentially.

2. We need to decrease the amount of incompetent drivers on the road, whether they are this way through mental illness or untrained or just plain stupid is almost irrelevant.

My responses 1 and 2 correspond to your paragraphs that I've numbered 1 and 2.

1. I don't really understand what you're trying to say about people who don't like driving at a higher speed being kept off the road. How do we keep these people off the roads? People that prefero drive slow can choose to drive slowly at any time they wish without penalty...

2. How do you propose we reduce the amount of incompetent drivers on the road? I'm assuming you mean by making the driving tests more difficult. The way I see it, driving tests these days are more lengthy but not significantly more difficult. I think one way to make it more difficult is to get drivers to learn how to drive under more dangerous situations effectively (eg in the rain, at higher speeds on the freeway etc), but this simply isn't practical, unfortunately...
 
1. Incorrect, you can't drive 75 in a 100 zone, if there is no congestion it IS illegal. Its simple, up the speed limit, and the ones that cant keep up can stay left as they are supposed to. If people were trained at higher speeds, they would realise it really isn't that difficult. If you haven't driven 140+ how can you tell me its dangerous when theres no traffic around? Its not hard to keep a car in a straight line if you are watching EVERYTHING around you.

2. Yep, as I said previously, a LOT more training, on closed circuits, and regular training sessions and tests. Once every 5 years at an absolute minimum of re-sitting your advanced driver test. You say it isn't practical? How so? Is all the money spent on 'road safety' ie speed cameras and fear campaigns having a practical effect on road traffic accident statistics? Has it ever?

Or would all this be too sensible, and keep money from entering the Law society with fines and criminal charges??
 
Using the argument that people who drive slow should not be on the roads, people that drive over the speed limit constantly should not be on the roads either.

Now speed can kill, I wouldn't say that it does often, but the possibility is there, in the sense that it can make accidents worse, it can result in longer braking time and less time to react to a hazard, it may not be the cause of an accident, but it can impact it.

Slightly off topic rant:

One area I think speeding indirectly impacts driving and accidents is tailgating, idiots always tailgating, despite many people including myself doing the speed limit there are always many, many idiots who feel the need to drive up your backside as if they are sooooo important that they must get to the destination before everyone else.:rolleyes: The comfort I get from tailgaters is that if they hit the back of a car they are tailgating it is their fault. My car is too nice though for me to hit the breaks for some idiot 1 metre behind me to damage it, so I adjust my driving, stick to the speed limit, make sure I keep extra distance between myself and the car in front and ease into my braking so the mental ant tailgater (usually in a 4WD SUV- probably a woman) doesn't damage my car.

End of off topic rant.
 
Slightly off topic rant:

One area I think speeding indirectly impacts driving and accidents is tailgating, idiots always tailgating, despite many people including myself doing the speed limit there are always many, many idiots who feel the need to drive up your backside as if they are sooooo important that they must get to the destination before everyone else.

I'm too tight to pay speeding fines so I'm usually pretty much on the speed limit, but when I get a tailgater I usually am of the opinion that they will not be able to stand it if I keep on getting a little bit slower.

So I gradually slow down, they go off their tree, pass me, give the bird and they're off to hassle someone else, my car is safe, problem solved
 
I'm too tight to pay speeding fines so I'm usually pretty much on the speed limit, but when I get a tailgater I usually am of the opinion that they will not be able to stand it if I keep on getting a little bit slower.

So I gradually slow down, they go off their tree, pass me, give the bird and they're off to hassle someone else, my car is safe, problem solved

Its crap like this that causes accidents!!

If theyre tailgating, either ignore them or realise that your driving like a bitch!

No need to antagonize someone because you're driving Miss Daisy!
 
Sorry but if I'm doing the speed limit and some crackwhore comes up behind me and tailgates me, I will go slower.
 
So you contribute to road rage problems, and then demand more money to cure the people you're making 'mentally ill' in the first place!

Its this stupid Vigilantism that causes accidents.

Can I ask, if you see a motorcycle filtering up the middle of 2 lanes, do you pull out to block them??
 
Its crap like this that causes accidents!!

If theyre tailgating, either ignore them or realise that your driving like a bitch!

No need to antagonize someone because you're driving Miss Daisy!

lolwut

I speed, but do it within reason.

Tailgaiting is w***erish
 

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