Club Focus St Kilda 2024

[Ticky009]

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[BrutThough]

Completely agree. I would have thought getting him in was a complete no-brainer, all-things-being-equal. He was a big thorn in our side when we played them this year. Was about as good as any game Battle played.

He’s plug-and-play, or at the very least, excellent depth.

Shows how much clubs rate the draft that guys like him are currently homeless.

We have so many free list spots that I will be surprised if we dont sign a delisted key back or ruck. As good as this draft is, I dont think we can fill up with just 18 year old kids.

 

[aussierulesrules]

We have so many free list spots that I will be surprised if we dont sign a delisted key back or ruck. As good as this draft is, I dont think we can fill up with just 18 year old kids.

Yeah I imagine clubs will start loading up on these guys from the rookie draft onwards. The Tomlinson, Matchbank, Clurey types.

 

[LTT]

Yeah I imagine clubs will start loading up on these guys from the rookie draft onwards. The Tomlinson, Matchbank, Clurey types.

What happened with Van Es? Pick 31 in the 2022 which means he was in th best half dozen key defenders in that draft now 2 years latter he dumped from a side desperate for key defenders. He only 20 surely he is worth a rookie spot

 

[BrutThough]

What happened with Van Es? Pick 31 in the 2022 which means he was in th best half dozen key defenders in that draft now 2 years latter he dumped from a side desperate for key defenders. He only 20 surely he is worth a rookie spot

His ankle is cooked.

 

[aussierulesrules]

What happened with Van Es? Pick 31 in the 2022 which means he was in th best half dozen key defenders in that draft now 2 years latter he dumped from a side desperate for key defenders. He only 20 surely he is worth a rookie spot

Apparently his ankle is or was so bad that he’s lost feeling in his foot and it affects his ability to jump or kick a footy.

 

[blaisee]

Seven clubs are hunting 2024s most prized draft pick. This is what they’re all offering

Seven-way race for AFL Trade period’s most crucial piece — and what clubs are offering

www.foxsports.com.au

Interesting, that the saints offered their F1+F2 for Pick 13, and the suns said no

Wonder if GWS will take them for Pick 16?

 

[aussierulesrules]

Seven clubs are hunting 2024s most prized draft pick. This is what they’re all offering

Seven-way race for AFL Trade period’s most crucial piece — and what clubs are offering

www.foxsports.com.au

Interesting, that the saints offered their F1+F2 for Pick 13, and the suns said no

Wonder if GWS will take them for Pick 16?

There must have been something coming back as you aren’t allowed to trade both your only future first and only future second.

 

[THE_GUN]

Seven clubs are hunting 2024s most prized draft pick. This is what they’re all offering

Seven-way race for AFL Trade period’s most crucial piece — and what clubs are offering

www.foxsports.com.au

Interesting, that the saints offered their F1+F2 for Pick 13, and the suns said no

Wonder if GWS will take them for Pick 16?

If the reports of GWS are correct that they knocked back #3 for #15 + #16 i would highly doubt they would be interested in any future picks as they have 6 main list spots and 2 rookie spots to fill so if they traded the 15 & 16
They would enter the draft with 21,37,56,74 and get another 3 picks in the 90's which i cant see happening

 

[WillHayward]

Quick look through some stats.
Both Philipou and Windhager have shown potential to be clearance players.

This is seen as the Saints biggest weakness.

Windhager had some 7s and Pou some 5s .

I'm thinking the Saints biggest list flaw is a key defender.

Defence held together by Wilkie and Battle last season.

I'd be going -

Key Defender (? - not Trainor)
Mid with speed (Trevaglia)
Back up mature ruckman

 

[BrutThough]

Quick look through some stats.
Both Philipou and Windhager have shown potential to be clearance players.

This is seen as the Saints biggest weakness.

Windhager had some 7s and Pou some 5s .

I'm thinking the Saints biggest list flaw is a key defender.

Defence held together by Wilkie and Battle last season.

I'd be going -

Key Defender (? - not Trainor)
Mid with speed (Trevaglia)
Back up mature ruckman

Completely agree. It's why I'm hoping that North pass on Tauru so Saints can take him and address that defensive hole. We should also take Cole as an academy player who is a very defensive key back so pairing someone like Tauru would cover both types of key backs. Then a mid with the other top 10 pick and it would be a great haul.

And not signing a mature ruck - either in the draft or leaving a list spot to sign someone in the preseason - would be the biggest list mistake we could make heading into next year. We will be conceding any finals chances if we dont get Marshall any back-up support.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Quick look through some stats.
Both Philipou and Windhager have shown potential to be clearance players.

This is seen as the Saints biggest weakness.

Windhager had some 7s and Pou some 5s .

I'm thinking the Saints biggest list flaw is a key defender.

Defence held together by Wilkie and Battle last season.

I'd be going -

Key Defender (? - not Trainor)
Mid with speed (Trevaglia)
Back up mature ruckman

Right from day 1 Windy was dominating VFL games in the midfield (high disposals, contested possessions, clearances, tackles, and regular goals) and the first time he tagged for us in the seniors might have been the first time he’d tagged in his life, so I think there’s a very good likelihood of him having a good career in the midfield at AFL level.

He’s quick, dynamic, highly competitive, wins his own ball and has the engine to run all day.

His weakness is that his kicking isn’t really up to snuff.

Hugo Garcia is actually very similar to Windy in all those respects, except that he looks to have a very good and piercing left foot.

Considering where he was picked, he was a bit of a revelation this year, especially with some of the footy he played in the VFL, and glimpses in the AFL.

He had one VFL game of 34 disposals, 12 tackles, 10 score involvements, 9 clearances and 3 goals.

He’s another one that could be fantastic at tagging, then be freed up to chase his own ball. He’s an absolute terrier.

Then of course there’s Pou, who showed late in the year in the midfield that he could be anything,

So it wouldn’t surprise me if we went midfield with our first pick, and then split our next one and went tall with at least one of those picks.

We’ve just cleared a heap of height off our list and so far haven’t replaced any of it.

Caminiti could be the one to play back though. Showed some promise there against Brisbane this year and we’re hearing a lot of talk that he’ll replace Battle.

 

[Stamos]

Ex-Blues midfielder joins Saints as delisted free agent

Jack Carroll joins the Saints after being delisted by the Blues

www.afl.com.au

 

[aussierulesrules]

So another addition who isn’t tall.

Our tall depth is paper-thin. 6 out and 0 in and we’re now running short of spots, outside of who we pick up in the draft.

 

[THE_GUN]

So another addition who isn’t tall.

Our tall depth is paper-thin. 6 out and 0 in and we’re now running short of spots, outside of who we pick up in the draft.

I would say either Tauru or Armstrong are just about done to StKilda now with 1 of the picks 7/8

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Armstrong will not be selected by the Saints

 

[mad-saint-guy]

So another addition who isn’t tall.

Our tall depth is paper-thin. 6 out and 0 in and we’re now running short of spots, outside of who we pick up in the draft.

Key backs

Wilkie
Howard
Cordy (can play forward, but is a spud)
Schoenmaker (medium)

Key forwards

King
Sharman (can play back)
Caminiti (can play back)
Owens (medium)
Keeler (has played back and ruck, but is untried)

Rucks

Marshall
Heath (has played forward, but is untried)


That list shows that we absolutely need a mature ruck option and preferably a readymade key defender as well. I don't think young key forwards are a significant need. I think a ruck like Knobel and defender like Clurey would be wise pickups. We should get Cole in cheaply who is a long term full back option, and I'd be fine with Tauru at pick 8. Dodson, Whitlock types would be considered with pick 32. But mids are the priority.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

I would say either Tauru or Armstrong are just about done to StKilda now with 1 of the picks 7/8

Will be interesting how desperate north are for tauru his obviously the reason they want to trade down but if they don’t get a trade done would they be prepared to take him at pick 2

 

[Saints2001]

Quick look through some stats.
Both Philipou and Windhager have shown potential to be clearance players.

This is seen as the Saints biggest weakness.

Windhager had some 7s and Pou some 5s .

I'm thinking the Saints biggest list flaw is a key defender.

Defence held together by Wilkie and Battle last season.

I'd be going -

Key Defender (? - not Trainor)
Mid with speed (Trevaglia)
Back up mature ruckman

Not bad tipping - key defender (Tauru), mid with speed (Trevaglia).

 

[Kildonan]

8. Tobie Travaglia
10. Alix Tauru
32. James Barrat
45. Hugh Boxshall
53. Alex Dodson
60. Patrick Said

 

[Kildonan]

Player (age) height

DEFENCE


Key Defenders

Callum Wilke (28) 191

Dougal Howard (28) 199

Zaine Cordy (27) 195

Josh Battle (25) 193 Free Agent (Hawthorn FC)

James van Es (20) 196 Delisted

Alixzander Tauru (18) 194

James Barrat (17) 193


Medium Defenders


Jimmy Webster (31) 188

Riley Bonner (27) 190 Delisted

Ben Paton (25) 187 Delisted (Sydney Rookie)

Liam Stocker (24) 184

Liam O'Connell (21) 189

Angus McLennan (21) 188

Arie Schoenmaker (19) 194


Offensive Defenders / Outside Mids


Jack Sinclair (29) 181

Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (21) 187

Angus Hastie (19) 190

Tobie Travaglia (18) 187


MIDFIELD


Inside Mids


Seb Ross (30) 187 Delisted

Jack Macrae (30) 192 Traded in

Brad Crouch (30) 186 Retired

Zak Jones (29) 182

Jack Steele (28) 187

Paddy Dow (25) 184

Marcus Windhager (20) 185

Mattaes Phillipou (20) 190

Hugo Garcia (19) 185

Hugh Boxshall (18) 188


Outside Mids/Forwards


Mason Wood (30) 192

Brad Hill (30) 182

Hunter Clark (25) 186

Liam Henry (23) 180

Ryan Byrnes (22) 181

Max Hall (22) 183 Midseason draftee

Jack Carroll (21) 187 Traded in

Olli Hotton (20) 181 Delisted

Darcy Wilson (19) 185

Patrick Said (18) 180


RUCK


Tom Campbell (31) 201 delisted free agent (Melbourne FC)

Rowan Marshall (28) 201

Max Heath (21) 204

Alex Dodson (18) 203


FORWARDS


Key Forwards


Jack Hayes (28) 194 Delisted

Max King (24) 202

Matthew Allison (22) 195 Delisted

Anthony Caminiti (20) 196

Isaac Keeler (20) 198

?? Need


Medium Forwards


Tim Membrey (30) 188 delisted free agent (Collingwood)

Cooper Sharman (24) 193

Mitch Owens (21) 191

?? Need


Small Forwards


Dan Butler (28) 182

Jack Higgins (25) 178

Lance Collard (19) 185


UNKNOWN


Eamonn Armstong (18) 191 (Cat B) Gaelic Footballer

 

[Kildonan]

Oldies team (over 24 years) matches played by each (2024/career)


Wilke (23/132) Howard (15/135) Webster (15/165)

Stocker (16/68) Cordy (8/141) Sinclair (22/188)



Wood (18/135) Steele (23/182) Hill (22/256)

Marshall (23/134) Macrae (19/249) Clark (11/98)



Butler (16/146) Sharman (18/50) Dow (10/83)

Higgins (20/123) King (12/84) Jones (13/150)

 

[Kildonan]

Youngies team (under 24 years) matches played by each (2024/career)


Hastie (5/5) Barrat (0/0) Schoenmaker (4/4)

Travaglia (0/0) Caminiti (15/34) Wanganeen-Milera (22/64)



Carroll (15/21) Windhager (15/52) Wilson (23/23)

Heath (0/0) Phillipou (13/38) Garcia (9/9)



Owens (23/54) Tauru (0/0) Henry (12/55)

Collard (3/3) Keeler (0/0) Byrnes (15/64)



McLennan (2/2) Dodson (0/0) Boxshall (0/0) Hall (0/0) O'Connell (0/0) Said (0/0)

 

[Kildonan]

Possible first round team + matches played by each (2024/career)


FB: Wilke (23/132) Howard (15/135) Webster (15/165)

HB: Wanganeen-Milera (22/64) Caminiti (15/34) Sinclair (22/188)



C: Wood (18/135) Steele (23/182) Hill (22/256)

R: Marshall (23/134) Macrae (19/249) Clark (11/98)




HF: Owens (23/54) Sharman (18/50) Henry (12/55)

FF: Higgins (20/123) King (12/84) Garcia (9/9)




Inter: Windhager (15/52) Wilson (23/23) Phillipou (13/38) Stocker (16/68)

Emerg: Byrnes (15/64) Jones (13/150) Keeler (0/0)

 

[Kildonan]

New player numbers:

5. Tobie Travaglia,
6. Jack Macrae,
18. Jack Carroll,
26. Alix Tauru,
28. James Barrat,
30. Alex Dodson,
33. Patrick Said,
38. Hugh Boxshall