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Absolutely trash to even go that argument when it's pretty ****en clear that Bailey is only running inboard due to his momentum to mark the ball. To even suggest that a right-footed player running backwards with two opposition players running at him would even consider playing on on his left foot is genuinely insane.
 
Bailey took his 4 steps inboard to play on at least 2-3+ sec's after the ump who called a mark chickened out of calling a 50m penalty, not the way Laura Kane was insinuating events took place
 

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I don't even get the argument that he played on. Why would Scott, someone who isn't even a great kick on his preferred foot, play on into the corridor when doing so would have put him on his left foot? Isn't the more logical explanation that his momentum pushed him that way and then he panicked when he saw two Collingwood players burst through the mark?
 
 
ansonholt said:
Disgraceful explanation. The reason she had to say 76 thousand words in her response was because she KNOWS she has to bull**** her way out of this and make the AFL and the umpires look good no matter what, and who cares, it's just Norf.
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Just say it was a stuff up and move on. Gather up some credibility by being truthful, show some humility.

If it was the other way they'd give Collingwood the points and the keys to Arden Street for pain and suffering.

****en bullshit.
 
toepoker said:
Wow. Just wow. That "explanation" may be the greatest load of convoluted garbage
I have heard, from an organisation that specialises in them.
Just to be clear, it wasn't a mistake not to pay the 50 because of the mistake in not calling stand? Is that right?
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If the mistake was "not calling' the Collingwood player/s to stand" then the correct action would be to admit the mistake and bring Scott back to take his kick and have only one on the mark.

The claim that the touching the ball was in conclusive is utter bull shit. What is she saying that it might have been the wind that caused his finger to move? HINT The game was at marvel.

What about the throws? No mention?
 

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tricknologist said:
I don't even get the argument that he played on. Why would Scott, someone who isn't even a great kick on his preferred foot, play on into the corridor when doing so would have put him on his left foot? Isn't the more logical explanation that his momentum pushed him that way and then he panicked when he saw two Collingwood players burst through the mark?
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Don't confuse this even more with exactly what happened.
 
Epictetus said:
It's an unbelievable response. Umpires make mistakes, fair enough. This was a gutless mistake because of the state of the game and the team we were playing, but lets leave that aside.

AFL had 24 hours to come up with a response to a mistake and came up with that? Get ****ed. Get absolutely ****ed.
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#howlergate

Well they couldn't explain it away with the truth now could they?

All they had left was that "explanation".
 
 
Epictetus said:
It's an unbelievable response. Umpires make mistakes, fair enough. This was a gutless mistake because of the state of the game and the team we were playing, but lets leave that aside.

AFL had 24 hours to come up with a response to a mistake and came up with that? Get ****ed. Get absolutely ****ed.
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Scenes from AFL House last night as they prepared for that response.

Cracking Up Lol GIF
 

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Too many umpires spoil the broth. Combined with stupid new rules which are easily manipulated gets the desired results. That’s the AFL world we live in now . Money talks too.
 
giantroo said:
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I kind of understand trying to drown the 50m penalty one in gallons of bullshit. There's enough stupid people out there who'd buy it. But trying to convince people something didn't happen that they can plainly see for themselves that it did?

Believing your own lies is one thing, but trying to get people to believe in the lies you believe? That pathological.
 
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Mark Robinson on the state of AFL umpiring in 2024 after the Bailey Scott decision​

In nearly 30 years of covering footy, the umpiring has never been more in disarray, writes MARK ROBINSON. The AFL has a problem – and it cannot be ignored.
Mark RobinsonMark RobinsonChief Football Writer
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June 17, 2024 - 4:09PM
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Roos robbed of last-gasp 50m penalty?​


AFL: Bailey Scott was somehow not given a 50-metre penalty, which would have brought him some 30 metres out from goal, when two Magpies players infringed on the mark.


Footy used to be decided by skill. It’s now being decided by interpretation and missed calls.
The decision not to pay a 50m penalty to North Melbourne’s Bailey Scott was the worst decision of the season. It polluted a cracking game of Australian Rules, one which should be talked about for being pure, thrilling and high-scoring, but instead the commentary surrounds a series of mysterious non-calls that decided the result.
In nearly 30 years of covering footy, the umpiring has never been more in disarray.
It’s not in anyone’s best interests to bash the umpires because, well, they’re just doing their best. But as BT likes to say, boy oh boy, wowee.
It’s not all their fault, mind you.
The game is frantic and complicated; the players are deft and sneaky with illegal ball distribution; the holding the ball interpretation was changed mid-season; the mass congregation of players around the ball means umpires are often blindsided; and, in some cases, the umpires are too scared to blow the whistle for fear of making a mistake.
The umpires will deny that last one. But how else can you explain the series of missed free kicks in the final minute of the North Melbourne-Collingwood game?
[PLAYERCARD]Cameron Zurhaar[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Zac Fisher[/PLAYERCARD], Luke McDonald and [PLAYERCARD]Nick Larkey[/PLAYERCARD] after the loss on Sunday. Picture: Daniel Pockett/Getty Images

Cameron Zurhaar, Zac Fisher, Luke McDonald and Nick Larkey after the loss on Sunday. Picture: Daniel Pockett/Getty Images
The [PLAYERCARD]Bailey Scott[/PLAYERCARD] incident in question.

The Bailey Scott incident in question.
The non-penalty against Steele Sidebottom and Beau McCreery was outrageous. There’s too much at stake to simply say a mistake was made.
Why wasn’t it paid? The controlling umpire missed it, but what about the other three umpires? Couldn’t one of them have taken control? Or did they all freeze as well?
On Friday night, St Kilda’s Marcus Windhager was penalised 50m for running from behind the play to stand the mark. And we’ve seen other players put a big toe over the mark this season and be penalised and waved back 50m.
But on Sunday, the two Collingwood blokes lost their heads and charged over the mark at Scott. They were confused and Scott was confused. And so, too, were the umpires.
The Nick Daicos missed call was half-understandable. He was tackled – who knows if he had prior opportunity – he tried to handball. The ball fell out. Play-on was called.
The Isaac Quaynor missed call was clearly wrong. Because the game has allowed players – over many years – to squirt the ball over their left and right shoulders, by swinging in unison the cradled hand with the clenched fist, it’s almost impossible to determine if the ball is thrown or a handballed.
The umpire assumed Quaynor handballed it. In real time, it looked iffy. The replay showed it was a throw.
All up, it was two certain free kicks and one maybe in 40 seconds of craziness.
No one with footy in their soul can believe that to be acceptable.
But that’s footy, you say. Yeah, it is. But the impact on games seems more profound.
[PLAYERCARD]Elliot Yeo[/PLAYERCARD] after the holding the ball call in round 13. Picture: Daniel Carson/AFL Photos

Elliot Yeo after the holding the ball call in round 13. Picture: Daniel Carson/AFL Photos
The week before, Elliot Yeo was penalised for holding the ball. The AFL ticked it off. That was disgraceful as well. And not because it was in the moment, when the game was still being decided, but because the very essence of winning the ball was challenged because the AFL changed the interpretation.
“I don’t know what to say to Elliott – ‘don’t win the ball like that?’,’’ Eagles coach Adam Simpson said at the time.
Yeo was furious in his endeavours to win the ball, having laid a tackle previously, and after gathering the ball on his knees and being tackled immediately, he was penalised.
He didn’t drag it in or under; he simply took the ball in his hands.
Yet Quaynor played hot-potato with the ball and was not penalised.
The congestion piece can’t be dismissed. Collingwood loves to play stacks-on-the-mill at the death, and other teams have joined that parade.
Countless free kicks are ignored when that happens. As players throw themselves at the contest, players are manhandled without possession and are pushed in the back and laid on.
The whistle seemingly is put away in those times. It happened again on Sunday.
That we’re talking about umpires and not drugs or racism, or other distasteful matters, wouldn’t disappoint AFL headquarters.

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That the crowds are up and television ratings are rocketing are always the stock answers to the many criticisms of the game. But this time it seems different.
The AFL has a problem with the umpiring of the game and there’s layers of blame.
Let’s not ignore it.

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