Surely the Bulldogs win is the greatest ever triumph in AFL/VFL history

[Bokonon_]

I was there, heard none of this Ward or post game booing. I heard and participated in the boo when GWS came on and loved that the Giants players had to hear that on their own deck. I also booed Griffen wholeheartedly

One your posters who said he was in the Bulldogs cheer squad agreed our team was booed off the ground and I heard it.
Griffin was fair play.
I heard the cheers when Ward was injured. I was in an unusual spot high on the South Side of the ground because I screwed up the online booking. It may have been less orchestrated and local to me, but I'm not the only Giants supporter who commented on it and some were in other areas.
Maybe the crowd who travelled is a bit different to the Crowd you get in Melbourne, and I daresay inluded some Sydney residents with a history with your club. It is my observation though, and your entitled to disagree as I've said.

 

[PerfectFooty]

I think Adelaide back in 98 was a pretty good triumph.

Played West Coast in perth in the last round of the season

Came down the the MCG and got done in by last years wooden spooners (us) in the qualifying

Then went to the SCG and took on Sydney and won

Before heading back to Melbourne to beat the dogs in a prelim and then go onto win the Grand Final against North who were one of the best sides in that era

So they went from Perth to Melbourne to Sydney and then back to Melbourne twice. All of course returning to SA for training in between.

Although the year prior they had an easier run asides from THAT final against the dogs

 

[LittleG]

I think Adelaide back in 98 was a pretty good triumph.

Played West Coast in perth in the last round of the season

Came down the the MCG and got done in by last years wooden spooners (us) in the qualifying

Then went to the SCG and took on Sydney and won

Before heading back to Melbourne to beat the dogs in a prelim and then go onto win the Grand Final against North who were one of the best sides in that era

So they went from Perth to Melbourne to Sydney and then back to Melbourne twice. All of course returning to SA for training in between.

Although the year prior they had an easier run asides from THAT final against the dogs

The lost 1/4 finals. How can that be better than winning all finals?

 

[WallyStringhaus]

I think Adelaide back in 98 was a pretty good triumph.

Played West Coast in perth in the last round of the season

Came down the the MCG and got done in by last years wooden spooners (us) in the qualifying

Then went to the SCG and took on Sydney and won

Before heading back to Melbourne to beat the dogs in a prelim and then go onto win the Grand Final against North who were one of the best sides in that era

So they went from Perth to Melbourne to Sydney and then back to Melbourne twice. All of course returning to SA for training in between.

Although the year prior they had an easier run asides from THAT final against the dogs

Finished outside the Top 4 and got belted in week 1 of the finals...should've been eliminated there

 

[yeee_haaaa!!!!!]

It's not just the fact that the Bulldogs won 4 finals including 2 interstate. That in itself is obviously remarkable. But you also need to factor in the adversity they endured throughout the season. The injury list was just horrendous - off top of the head Murphy wallis redpath adams johanissen Libba Dahlhaus suckling wood McRae Jong all missed huge chunks of the season and/or important lead up games to finals and finals themselves. Plus Crameri was suspended for the season. Has got to be the greatest team performance in the history of the game

 

[TW Sherrin]

It's not just the fact that the Bulldogs won 4 finals including 2 interstate. That in itself is obviously remarkable. But you also need to factor in the adversity they endured throughout the season. The injury list was just horrendous - off top of the head Murphy wallis redpath adams johanissen Libba Dahlhaus suckling wood McRae Jong all missed huge chunks of the season and/or important lead up games to finals and finals themselves. Plus Crameri was suspended for the season. Has got to be the greatest team performance in the history of the game

Play another 5 finals series and I doubt they win again. They got some breaks and rode the wave all the way to a flag. They were well coached.

 

[Sedat!]

I would like to remind everyone that club supporters on Bigfooty do NOT reflect their respective club's general supporter bases.

Bulldogs supporters whom I've met in real life have been truly humble. Bulldogs supporters (not all but enough) on Bigfooty not so much.

Anybody that takes their social cues from the distorted world of BF is a fool. And anybody that attempts to discredit other clubs supporters purely on the basis of BF banter is even more of a village idiot.

Out in the real world our triumph has been the biggest fairytale in the game's history (or at least since 1966 or 1990). I have been personally inundated by well-wishes from every single supporter base, and have been humbled by the excitement and continued good vibes from opposition fans even 3 months on. A few sour deadshits on BF will never change this feel-good mood in the real world, no matter how often they try and derail every single Dogs related thread on BF. And these deadshits will have to endure this recurring nightmare story year after year for the rest of their lives - it really sucks to be them and they know it.

 

[maddog37]

Play another 5 finals series and I doubt they win again. They got some breaks and rode the wave all the way to a flag. They were well coached.

Which breaks?

 

[mikeg4]

I was at the GWS prelim and didnt hear any booing when Ward went off and to be honest dont recall them being booed as they left the field after the game, mainly cos I cant even remember them leaving the field as I was busy celebrating.

 

[BRWB]

Yes, yes I am.

H/A accounts for the All Australian team, the Brownlow winner, the Coleman winner and yes jockeying for Finals spots but it all counts in the end. I use the 2007 Geelong team as an example a lot here and with good reason, Bartel won the Brownlow, they had a record number of AA selections, and despite a near hiccup against Collingwood had what I assume what would've been one of the most satisfying Grand Final wins ever in breaking a massive Grand Final hoodoo by a record margin, and be knowing that you're the premiers from about 5 minutes into the 3rd quarter.

I'm not telling you how to feel, and in this thread I've never once said that a Dogs fan shouldn't enjoy their premiership or that it should mean less to them, I'm simply stating that I feel like winning a Premiership in those circumstances WHILE PERFECTLY GOD DAMNED FINE isn't the best way to win it, and why it isn't the best triumph of all time.

This is why Bulldogs fans on Bigfooty are terrible, if we're not drinking your bathwater we're clearly out to get you and especially St Kilda fans for some reason. It shows in so many posters and it's incredibly tiresome, far out I think I've explained this point that it's simply my opinion that many times that it's not worth the use of the keyboard to do it again.

You've posted a lot about this topic. Boiled down you seem to have a different definition of 'best triumph' to some other neutrals. (I exclude fanatical Bulldog fans as our answer is obvious).

Many neutrals see the story of against the odds and the unlikelihood of a Dogs win from seventh as evidence of the best triumph. In short it was exciting and unlikely as hell for many neutrals. Most people love a good underdog story.

Some, like you seem to equate 'best triumph' as best team or best way to win a GF. I guess your interpretation is no less valid although I don't think that was the intent of the thread.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Which breaks?

Really? Do I have to?

 

[TW Sherrin]

You've posted a lot about this topic. Boiled down you seem to have a different definition of 'best triumph' to some other neutrals. (I exclude fanatical Bulldog fans as our answer is obvious).

Many neutrals see the story of against the odds and the unlikelihood of a Dogs win from seventh as evidence of the best triumph. In short it was exciting and unlikely as hell for many neutrals. Most people love a good underdog story.

Some, like you seem to equate 'best triumph' as best team or best way to win a GF. I guess your interpretation is no less valid although I don't think that was the intent of the thread.

Another unlikely win was the Crows after losing a final in 97. I felt angry as hell as I watched them beat the Saints in the GF as I didn't think the Crows were anywhere near the best team that year. Many other neutrals rated that win as it was against the odds. Crows fans loved it. Most Dog and Saint fans just want to forget it.

Any team that has to travel multiple times in 4 weeks is a fair effort.

 

[BRWB]

Any team that has to travel multiple times in 4 weeks is a fair effort.

No arguments here.

Interesting that the Dogs play at the MCG about as much as any interstate team - but it's a 'home' game.

 

[maddog37]

Really? Do I have to?

Yes.

 

[fred cook]

It's not just the fact that the Bulldogs won 4 finals including 2 interstate. That in itself is obviously remarkable. But you also need to factor in the adversity they endured throughout the season. The injury list was just horrendous - off top of the head Murphy wallis redpath adams johanissen Libba Dahlhaus suckling wood McRae Jong all missed huge chunks of the season and/or important lead up games to finals and finals themselves. Plus Crameri was suspended for the season. Has got to be the greatest team performance in the history of the game

Well said I take it all back what I said about pie fans

 

[TW Sherrin]

Yes.

Nah it's been done to death.

 

[maddog37]

Nah it's been done to death.

Fair enough. I call bullshit then.

 

[ManOfClay]

Yes, yes I am.

H/A accounts for the All Australian team, the Brownlow winner, the Coleman winner and yes jockeying for Finals spots but it all counts in the end. I use the 2007 Geelong team as an example a lot here and with good reason, Bartel won the Brownlow, they had a record number of AA selections, and despite a near hiccup against Collingwood had what I assume what would've been one of the most satisfying Grand Final wins ever in breaking a massive Grand Final hoodoo by a record margin, and be knowing that you're the premiers from about 5 minutes into the 3rd quarter.

I'm not telling you how to feel, and in this thread I've never once said that a Dogs fan shouldn't enjoy their premiership or that it should mean less to them, I'm simply stating that I feel like winning a Premiership in those circumstances WHILE PERFECTLY GOD DAMNED FINE isn't the best way to win it, and why it isn't the best triumph of all time.

This is why Bulldogs fans on Bigfooty are terrible, if we're not drinking your bathwater we're clearly out to get you and especially St Kilda fans for some reason. It shows in so many posters and it's incredibly tiresome, far out I think I've explained this point that it's simply my opinion that many times that it's not worth the use of the keyboard to do it again.

So if st Kilda has all this home and away success why do you pine for a flag?

A flag is a flag is a flag. Had Carlton won from ninth that year nobody would give a **** you don't think that is as good as dominating all year.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Fair enough. I call bullshit then.

Haha. Ok. I've found another BF poster who knows SFA about footy.

 

[Sedat!]

So if st Kilda has all this home and away success why do you pine for a flag?

A flag is a flag is a flag. Had Carlton won from ninth that year nobody would give a **** you don't think that is as good as dominating all year.

It appears that in some people's eyes on BF it is a more worthy pursuit to have a dominant H&A season and to fall short in September than it is to win a flag from a less-dominant H&A season. By that logic Geelong should forget about their 2009 and 2011 premiership reunions and focus instead on their dominant 2008 instead - honestly you can't make this stuff up.

 

[maddog37]

Haha. Ok. I've found another BF poster who knows SFA about footy.

All I know is you are good at making random assertions without any substance to validate your opinions and then passing it off as fact.

Carry on.......all good.

 

[TW Sherrin]

All I know is you are good at making random assertions without any substance to validate your opinions and then passing it off as fact.

Carry on.......all good.

you have no idea what I know or don't know yet you think my opinion is based on "random assertions".

move on champ. an opinion can never be wrong.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

you have no idea what I know or don't know yet you think my opinion is based on "random assertions".

move on champ. an opinion can never be wrong.

"opinion
əˈpɪnjən/
noun

1. 1.
   a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."

'I believe the earth is flat' - Here is an opinion that is wrong (i.e. it is a judgement about the earth that is false, and so it is wrong to hold it). Only idiots say what you did, and so now you are a verified idiot. Opinions can be entirely unjustified, or weak (when not based on substantive evidence), and they can entail assertions that are false.

He asked for you to support what you have said (i.e. your conclusion that he knows nothing about football, or your claim that we got breaks in the finals series). You did not.

In fact, for demanding to know what those breaks were (and thus giving him an opportunity to refute your idiocy), you claimed he knows nothing about football. Simply incoherent, and horrible argumentation by you.

Please tell us what breaks we got that other teams didnt. Then substantiate your claim. Otherwise you are a bag of hot air that doesnt know shit. And that isnt an opinion. Thats a fact.

 

[Murraj1966]

It appears that in some people's eyes on BF it is a more worthy pursuit to have a dominant H&A season and to fall short in September than it is to win a flag from a less-dominant H&A season. By that logic Geelong should forget about their 2009 and 2011 premiership reunions and focus instead on their dominant 2008 instead - honestly you can't make this stuff up.

Oh yes because that's exactly what i said.

You people are idiots

 

[ManOfClay]

Oh yes because that's exactly what i said.

You people are idiots

And you are being simple minded. If st Kilda replaced the Bulldogs in 2016 you wouldn't be making the argument you are.