T20 World Cup Game 48 Super Eight Australia v Afghanistan June 23 1000hrs @ Arnos Vale Stadium St Vincent

[Around the Wicket]

No way to tell if they're 'good' men.

That can be said about all athletes really, but they come across good.

 

[Gough]

We're not punishing the men's team, we're punishing the governance

If we applied the standards to Afghanistan that we applied to South Africa in the 70s and 80s there's no way we'd be playing them. Uganda would be a bit dubious too.

 

[GCS in 11]

Australia will need to beat India by about 40 runs to overtake their NRR, if we do that we’d guarantee ourselves a Semi Final place and India would be at risk of not qualifying if Afg beat Bangladesh by a decent amount

 

[Moonwatcher]

3 elimination finals coming up. I'm a pessimistic supporter but have to admit Australia produce the good in big tournaments.

 

[Sydney Kicker]

I don’t know enough about the state of Afghanistan to probably comment but it seems silly to punish the men’s side who all seem like good men, as if us not playing them will make them reconsider a women’s side lol

Cheers to Afghanistan for winning this game. Better team clearly.

But they should be banned from all international sport (Saudi Arabia and others also) until women's rights are respected.

Sorry but since working with colleagues who work in the women's safety space, I have zero tolerance for the neanderthals in these countries who discriminate against and persecute women under the guise of religion, tradition or just cause they are $hit blokes.

rant over.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Don't worry guys we won the 'best send off' world cup. The real world cup if you ask me (and stoin).

 

[Moonwatcher]

England would have enjoyed that match very much.

 

[yabsy]

If we do beat India our NNR will probably be around one full point ahead of AFG, but they'll know exactly what they need to do being the later match.

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[ptrg]

Cheers to Afghanistan for winning this game. Better team clearly.

But they should be banned from all international sport (Saudi Arabia and others also) until women's rights are respected.

Sorry but since working with colleagues who work in the women's safety space, I have zero tolerance for the neanderthals in these countries who discriminate against and persecute women under the guise of religion, tradition or just cause they are $hit blokes.

rant over.

I'm fully onboard with this, but it is a slippery slope at where you draw the line - does religious indoctrination that forces women to cover themselves for "modesty" purposes qualify for boycotting also?
I mean we know the reason behind this practice, so do we accept that?

 

[akkaps]

Just got home. Oh my days, what a win for Afghanistan

 

[Around the Wicket]

I'm fully onboard with this, but it is a slippery slope at where you draw the line - does religious indoctrination that forces women to cover themselves for "modesty" purposes qualify for boycotting also?
I mean we know the reason behind this practice, so do we accept that?

Solid point

 

[Around the Wicket]

Australia will need to beat India by about 40 runs to overtake their NRR, if we do that we’d guarantee ourselves a Semi Final place and India would be at risk of not qualifying if Afg beat Bangladesh by a decent amount

Australia v India is a massive because you’d think on form Afghanistan easily beat Bangladesh

 

[Sydney Kicker]

I'm fully onboard with this, but it is a slippery slope at where you draw the line - does religious indoctrination that forces women to cover themselves for "modesty" purposes qualify for boycotting also?
I mean we know the reason behind this practice, so do we accept that?

Sure but everything in this space is a slippery slope/grey boundary. And these countries are way on the dark side of the boundary. I'd be willing to support the Afghan mens team playing international cricket if you could guarantee every woman in Afghanistan the right to get an education and a job if they want one - that wouldn't fix the whole country but it would be a start. I'd be almost ok with Uganda too if they repealed the death penalty for homosexuality.

In Australia gambling and drinking correlate strongly with (and almost certainly have a causal impact on) domestic abuse but we aren't banning them. Though I think the average joe would agree we certainly need to make it much harder for problem gamblers to get their fix.

 

[largebus]

Don't have Amazon Prime but well done Afghanistan.

Were our batters sans Maxwell just clueless against their spin again?

 

[Santana]

I'm fully onboard with this, but it is a slippery slope at where you draw the line - does religious indoctrination that forces women to cover themselves for "modesty" purposes qualify for boycotting also?
I mean we know the reason behind this practice, so do we accept that?

The line should be they don't even fulfill the requirements of having full ICC membership by having a women's team.

They're lucky they're still even playing.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Don't have Amazon Prime but well done Afghanistan.

Were our batters sans Maxwell just clueless against their spin again?

All forms of bowling. Tough wicket to make runs on.

 

[Moonwatcher]

How could an Adelaide Crows free weekend be spoiled so badly?

 

[Around the Wicket]

The line should be they don't even fulfill the requirements of having full ICC membership by having a women's team.

They're lucky they're still even playing.

People lack opportunity all over the world, even Australia allow dodgy shit to happen, I’m on an Australian cruise line at the moment who pay there staff $700 a month lol, is that right? No.

 

[sherb]

If we applied the standards to Afghanistan that we applied to South Africa in the 70s and 80s there's no way we'd be playing them. Uganda would be a bit dubious too.

Correct.
South Africa were treated as a sporting pariah due to their treatment of a large portion of their population.
Not so with Afghanistan.

 

[Sydney Kicker]

People lack opportunity all over the world, even Australia allow dodgy shit to happen, I’m on an Australian cruise line at the moment who pay there staff $700 a month lol, is that right? No.

What part of "shades of gray" don't you get? At some point you draw the line. It's unrealistic to think we can fix every problem in the world.

Your example is clearly a major injustice but is it as bad as a girl being beaten to death for attending school or a women imprisoned for driving a car?

 

[Crusty Demon]

Did you miss our previous 4 matches in the tournament, or decide to come here and vent during our first loss?

Did you miss the games at thir ground where chasing has been ridiculously hard?

 

[akkaps]

Not that I disagree with what is being discussed, but would this topic of conversation be happening if Australia won the game?

 

[Santana]

People lack opportunity all over the world, even Australia allow dodgy shit to happen, I’m on an Australian cruise line at the moment who pay there staff $700 a month lol, is that right? No.

Did you miss the part of my post where they don't even fulfill the requirements of having full ICC memberships while having said membership?

Yes, some people lack opportunity, especially when they're flat out denied opportunities because of what sex they were born.

Apart from all that you're right. Bad things happen all the time so we shouldn't call out any bad thing ever.

 

[Plugger35]

Not that I disagree with what is being discussed, but would this topic of conversation be happening if Australia won the game?

It seems like some people only have a problem, with Afghanistan playing international cricket when their team loses to them.

 

[Santana]

Not that I disagree with what is being discussed, but would this topic of conversation be happening if Australia won the game?

Wouldn't have needed to as much as some wouldn't have tried to claim that the Afghanistan team wouldn't be so happy with beating the team with the current stance on playing them. As if they're the ones who are so hard done by the Afghanistan Government refusing to allow the basic of human rights.