Tarrant looks like hes an Eagle in 2007

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Yes it is simplistic but in simplistic terms a loss increases West coast's desire for a marking forward and Collingwood's (along with that of any other interested club) perception of the price they would pay.

This is nonsense.

No professional outfit will decide to manage their list completely differently because of one result.

I think WC will be interested in Tarrant regardless of the result. But what we'd be prepared to give up is unlikely to fluctuate depending on tomorrow's outcome.

If Collingwood demand something we currently feel is exorbitant, we're not going to suddenly come around in the event of a loss tomorrow.

That would be bad business practice. You might see that crap in a muppet Victorian club, but not at WC. We don't make those kind of stupid decisions.

 

[MarkT]

Waters probably has a higher trade value than Tarrant, let alone throwing in a 1st round super draft pick

Nonsense. It is MUCH easier to find midfielders than forwards who take marks. That said, I am not saying this would happen just what I would settle for after being negotiated down.

No professional outfit will decide to manage their list completely differently because of one result.

If Collingwood demand something we currently feel is exorbitant, we're not going to suddenly come around in the event of a loss tomorrow.

That would be bad business practice. You might see that crap in a muppet Victorian club, but not at WC. We don't make those kind of stupid decisions.

Of course they do. I wish my club had done a similar analysis post 2002 and got a ruckman. That one result (and in WCE case it would be two anyway) is actually the point of playing the game.

If Collingwood demand something we currently feel is exorbitant, we're not going to suddenly come around in the event of a loss tomorrow.

I agree. My point is that what WCE consider exorbitant changes with the result.

That would be bad business practice. You might see that crap in a muppet Victorian club, but not at WC. We don't make those kind of stupid decisions.

You, like any club close to a flag, should make list decisions based on what you need to go the extra step and what you can spare without feeling too much loss. Whether Tarrant is the answer is another matter but the alternatives at this point would be zero. An alternative may materialise before trade week but right now there is one tallish marking forward up for grabs. The number of bidders is uncertain as yet.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Whether Tarrant is the answer is another matter but the alternatives at this point would be zero. An alternative may materialise before trade week but right now there is one tallish marking forward up for grabs. The number of bidders is uncertain as yet.

The way we view our need for a player like Tarrant is not going to change dramatically because of what happens in the GF.

People just like to come up with these stupid little rules that oversimplify things more than necessary.

"If WC lose the GF, they'll be prepared to give up much more for Tarrant than if they win."

This is crap.

We'll have an idea of what Tarrant is worth to us and of what we're prepared to give in return.

A GF loss isn't going to see that value escalate dramatically.

It's not quite as black and white as what you're suggesting, so I'll understand if you reject that version of the situation. I know you like to keep it simple.

 

[MarkT]

Simple? I think you are the one over simplifying things but I suspect we've done all the arguments to death.

 

[zero]

Nonsense. It is MUCH easier to find midfielders than forwards who take marks. That said, I am not saying this would happen just what I would settle for after being negotiated down.

of course, but youth is more valuable than a middle aged player, and quality is still quality, and waters >>> tarrant.

theres no way i would trade waters for tarrant unless it came with collingwoods first pick at least. you will scoff, but me and west coast think that waters is going to be on the level of kerr and cousins. a multiple all australian in the 10 years left of his career.

i seriously doubt tarrant has a single all australian season left, let alone multiple in his remaining 5 years in the game

and gunnar, markT is totally correct, if we lose tomorrow, tarrants value to us increases. because we are a professional organization, that shift will only be a small amount.

 

[section8]

and gunnar, markT is totally correct, if we lose tomorrow, tarrants value to us increases. because we are a professional organization, that shift will only be a small amount.

No it won't because adding him to the squad won't be the difference between winning and losing a flag. The difference rests across the whole team we have at this minute - if we play average or above tomorrow odds are we'll win, below average we'll lose.

The team to win us flags is already assembled. Tarrant would simply be the decadent icing that we've been afforded for assembling it ahead of schedule.

 

[Adz]

If West Coast lose tomorrow and they are let down in the forward line then of course Tarrant values increases. Take out Lynch and who kicks there goals?

 

[section8]

If West Coast lose tomorrow and they are let down in the forward line then of course Tarrant values increases. Take out Lynch and who kicks there goals?

If we are let down in the forwardline it will be because they played below expectations.

You don't recruit or pay more for a recruit on the basis that you can't back your current players to perform in one game at a level expected of them based on past form.

We have no excuses if we lose tomorrow and we would be foolish to look outside the club for a quick fix if we do.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

and gunnar, markT is totally correct, if we lose tomorrow, tarrants value to us increases.

This is complete bollocks.

We have an idea of what Tarrant is worth to us.

That will not shoot up in the event we lose today.

Perception does not equal reality.

 

[Bulldogsnm1]

Rosa is quicker than Waters and has spent more time in the midfield.

Everyone bars up about Waters' hardness but there are question marks over his disposal.

I don't think Waters' future lies in the midfield.

Just thought I would re-post this, now you know why you need him.

Waters was absolutely fantastic today, if you have anymore like him at West Coast, the Bulldogs will take them in a minute.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Whether Tarrant is the answer is another matter but the alternatives at this point would be zero.

We won the flag.

Does that mean Tarrant is worth less than he was 24 hours ago?

Or did you just make up that crap in the hope we'd lose?

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Just thought I would re-post this, now you know why you need him.

Waters was absolutely fantastic today, if you have anymore like him at West Coast, the Bulldogs will take them in a minute.

Waters was fantastic.

Probably his best game for the club.

Still don't think his future lies in the midfield, but his contribution today was crucial.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

If West Coast lose tomorrow and they are let down in the forward line then of course Tarrant values increases. Take out Lynch and who kicks there goals?

So how much is Tarrant worth now?

Lynch, Hunter, Hansen, Embley and Armstrong kicked 9 of our 12 goals.

They were all playing as forwards when their goals came.

How did Barry Hall go?

 

[pharro]

Like I said, agreed 'in concept'.

More likely...

Knock knock knock

Who's there?

It's Collingwood. We want to talk about a trade.

Bugger off, we've got a premiership to win. Come back in trade week.

 

[JADED]

^^ EXACTLY.
Apart from packing Gardiners bags for him I doubt the club has had any other dealings in regards to its list or trade week.(concept or reality)
Grand Final would have been the only priority.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

^^ EXACTLY.
Apart from packing Gardiners bags for him I doubt the club has had any other dealings in regards to its list or trade week.(concept or reality)
Grand Final would have been the only priority.

The club has a recruiting department that is hustling all year round.

 

[La Vache]

The club has a recruiting department that is hustling all year round.

The world's your oyster Gunnar. Go for the maximum.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The flag should put an end to the Tarrant to Eagles theory. Which club's next on the rumour mill?

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

The flag should put an end to the Tarrant to Eagles theory.

Why is that?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Why is that?

Gut feeling - with Hanson and Lynch proving themselves on the big stage, you'll have no room for a big salaried forward you might not need, and you probably wont offer enough to get him.

 

[MarkT]

Agree with Timmy. The flag will give the Eagles ample confidence in their squad and Lynch's effort will make them a bit more comfortable with their forwards. Any doubts have been quelled. If a good deal presents itself they'd take it but they won't chase anything big down and they won't pay a lot for anyone.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Agree with Timmy. The flag will give the Eagles ample confidence in their squad and Lynch's effort will make them a bit more comfortable with their forwards. Any doubts have been quelled. If a good deal presents itself they'd take it but they won't chase anything big down and they won't pay a lot for anyone.

You're funny.

We won the flag, so any interest in Tarrant suddenly evaproates?

But had we lost by a point, we would have given Collingwood whatever they wanted for Tarrant?

Is that how it works?

 

[Reveler]

The club has a recruiting department that is hustling all year round.

exactly, the whole club won't be focusing on the GF. That would be very short sighted.

If you want to be succesful, you have to scour the earth looking for the best talent, and don't stop. Thats how the eagles have picked up some draft bargains.

 

[cs61]

Agree with Timmy. The flag will give the Eagles ample confidence in their squad and Lynch's effort will make them a bit more comfortable with their forwards. Any doubts have been quelled. If a good deal presents itself they'd take it but they won't chase anything big down and they won't pay a lot for anyone.

I'm not sure that the flag will stop the Eagles trying to get their structure right. They dominated for periods, where Sydney only did for a bit in the last quarter and Eagles still only won by a point.

I think a quality forward would give the Eagles more fire-power and would be make them that much more dangerous.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I think a quality forward would give the Eagles more fire-power and would be make them that much more dangerous.

I really question whether Tarrant is that player.

He's not a goal-kicker, and that's what we need.