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My team

B Ramanauskas Michael Ryder

HB Dempsey Fletcher Nash

C Dyson Watson Lovett

HF NLM Lucas McVeigh

F Davey Lloyd Neagle

R Hille Houli Stanton

INT: Laycock, Pears, Reimers, Jetta

EMERG: Myers, Monfries, Welsh, Slattery

- McPhee to play if right

EDIT: Forgot about Reimers and Houli. Out: Welsh, Slattery
 
My team

B Ramanauskas Michael Ryder

HB Dempsey Fletcher Nash

C Dyson Watson Lovett

HF NLM Lucas McVeigh

F Davey Lloyd Neagle

R Hille Houli Stanton

INT: Laycock, Pears, Reimers, Jetta

EMERG: Myers, Monfries, Welsh, Slattery

- McPhee to play if right

EDIT: Forgot about Reimers and Houli. Out: Welsh, Slattery

Would be stoked with that side if they went with it. Would be a gutsy call to play a few of those kids but the right one. Time to rebuild and leave behind the dead weight.

Great side keepzitreal
 
unfortunately knights won't want to play that side. he loves welsh, neagle isn't match fit and i don't think he'll have the guts to put pears in round 1
 

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unfortunately knights won't want to play that side. i don't think he'll have the guts to put pears in round 1

Nothing to do with guts, Pears form hasnt warranted selection for round 1 ahead of other defenders.

He'll get his opportunity soon but atm he couldnt be chucked into the backline ahead of guys like Rama, Nash, Slatts, Dempsey, Ryder etc who are all better options for round 1.
 
Nothing to do with guts, Pears form hasnt warranted selection for round 1 ahead of other defenders.

He'll get his opportunity soon but atm he couldnt be chucked into the backline ahead of guys like Rama, Nash, Slatts, Dempsey, Ryder etc who are all better options for round 1.

Exactly.

And in addition to that, Tayte Pears will probably gain just as much from playing at Bendigo as he would in the seniors.

Let's not forget that this guy's not even 18 and has played 3 matches against men at a WAFL/AFL level.

He's got plenty of learning to do all round, and he can do plenty of that in the VFL. He doesn't need to be chucked into the seniors before he's necessarily ready.
 
thats exactly what i meant by guts. knights has said that he will give the kids a go, but even though he has said that, putting pears in round 1 is going a bit too far. playing tayte would be good for his development, but probably not good for the success of the team. i wouldn't have pears in the side if i was the coach....just yet
 
My team

B Ramanauskas Michael Ryder

HB Dempsey Fletcher Nash

C Dyson Watson Lovett

HF NLM Lucas McVeigh

F Davey Lloyd Neagle

R Hille Houli Stanton

INT: Laycock, Pears, Reimers, Jetta

EMERG: Myers, Monfries, Welsh, Slattery

- McPhee to play if right

EDIT: Forgot about Reimers and Houli. Out: Welsh, Slattery
He is no chance of missing. Apart from injury/suspension, he is almost guaranteed to play all 22 games. Only a massive form slump will get him dropped, even then it will have to be a slump for maybe 3-4 weeks before they consider dropping him.
 
FB: Dempsey Fletcher Lovett Murray
HB: Nash Ryder Welsh
C: Houli Winderlich Dyson
HF: McPhee Lucas Jetta
FF: Lovett Lloyd Davey
FOLL: Hille Stanton McVeigh
INT: Hocking Watson Monfries Laycock

EMER: Ramanaskus Reimers Michael
HAHAHAHA. I needed a good laugh today, and you just provided it.
 
HAHAHAHA. I needed a good laugh today, and you just provided it.

I was just trying to put something different out there, a different idea, and if we have the likes of Ryder/Pears coming through, not sure i'd be playing Michael. Having said that, i'd be happy to see Michael play every game this year, retire..then have another year of development into Ryder and Pears coming through as our key defenders.

Interesting point that brings up, not confident that it will happen, but is that a chance that Mal will retire at the end of the year? We only gave him 2 years didn't we?
 
Sorry, I guess I was a bit harsh.

However I dont think Ryder should be a long term defender, I think he should go into the ruck eventually. and Pears needs a bit more beef on him to play in he AFL, so he can bulk up over this season.

Havng said that, Ryder will play CHB this year, and maybe Johns might play defense if another tall defender is needed, but I cant see Pears getting a game unless we get to a position where making the finals is utterly hopeless.
 
I was just trying to put something different out there, a different idea, and if we have the likes of Ryder/Pears coming through, not sure i'd be playing Michael. Having said that, i'd be happy to see Michael play every game this year, retire..then have another year of development into Ryder and Pears coming through as our key defenders.

Interesting point that brings up, not confident that it will happen, but is that a chance that Mal will retire at the end of the year? We only gave him 2 years didn't we?
There's a bit of an argument there, that we'd be better off giving some younger bods - Pears, Lee, Johns - a crack at the key position back roles, while the two wise old heads of Mal & Fletch are still around
That said, I wouldn't go so far as dropping Mal completely, ideally he would play the games when we really need him - Barry hall, John Brown, Pavlich - and let the youngsters tackle the games against the less powerful forwards - Doggies, Hawks, Pies
 

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mal is probably the fittest he has been in for a while..
he will be a great asset for us this year and should play all 22 games..
if he can remain fit and have his speed up and running there is a match up for him no matter what opposition we are playing..

pears isnt even 18, chucking him in now could just be like what the hawks did with zac dawson.... johns will be given a shot in the backline this year, not doubt one of fletch, mal or ryder will be injured, suspended or rested at some point this season, thats when johns will get his shot... like donsman said pears will only really get a shot in the afl this year if we are no chance of making the finals which i personally dont see happening until the last round or 2...

if we can keep players like rama, nash and dempsey in the side then that is more then enough run out of our backline to counter having players like fletcher, mal and ryder who obviously arent there to provide the run out of defence..


our backline imo should be

rama, mal, fletcher
dempsey, ryder, nash

if one of mal fletch or ryder go down bring in johns. if one of dempsey rama or nash go down then dyson, houli, hislop, slattery etc can go back
 
I dont know if Winderlich is going to play but i doubt it so i left him out but here is my team for the Roos:

B:Slattery Michael Fletcher
HB:Nash Ryder Ramanauskas
C:Lovett Watson Houli
HF: Lovett Murray Hille Mcphee
F:Lucas Lloyd Davey
R:Laycock Mcveigh Stanton
I: Jetta, Welsh, Monfries, Dyson
E: Johnson Neagle Johns

Im pretty excited about that lineup. For the first time in years when picking a team i have actually struggled with the starting 18 cos all 4 on the bench just about deserve to start.
 
B: Fletcher Michael Lovett-Murray

HB: Nash Ryder Dempsey
C: Lovett Watson Monfries
HF: McPhee Lucas Davey
FF: jetta Lloyd Welsh​

FOLL: Hille Stanton McVeigh​

INT: Laycock, Hocking, Rama, Houli​


EMG: Dyson, Slattery, Neagle​

Mate Dyson and Houli have been your gun mids this preseason so how could u not have them on the ground
 
FB: Rama Michael Flether
HB: Nash Ryder Dempsey
C: Dyson Watson Slattery
HF: Monfries Lucas L-Murray
FF: Davey Lloyd Jetta
R: Hille JJ Stanton
I: Reimers Houli Laycock Peverill

This is assuming neither McPhee or Winders get up for round 1. Hocking would be 1st emergency. It's not necessarily what i want but it's how I feel Knighter will line them up.
 
Winders won't be playing round 1. McPhee probably will

I will be interested to see if Dempsey is in the team. He still didn't look sharp enough for my mind in the other games, but given that they kind of stuff might be demonstrable in training he might get in.

FB: Rama Michael Flether
HB: Nash Ryder Dempsey
C: Dyson Watson Slattery
HF: Monfries Lucas L-Murray
FF: Davey Lloyd Jetta
R: Hille JJ Stanton
I: Reimers Houli Laycock Peverill

You've left Welsh, McPhee, and McVeigh out of the team... Knights will not put this lineup out there.

At this point it looks like Lovett will miss round 1, I suppose.
 
Would be stoked with that side if they went with it. Would be a gutsy call to play a few of those kids but the right one. Time to rebuild and leave behind the dead weight.

Great side keepzitreal

Thanks dude, I know people don't agree with Welsh being left out of the side, his a good solid player, but I think he lacks the X factor that everyone else possesses.

I think Pears is ready for this level. He has great size and athleticism but isn't too bulked up where he lacks mobility. Coming in as a third tall defender, I think he can have a rookie year similar to Jared Rivers a few years ago, also freeing up either Ryder or Fletch. We need him in the side.

Rama, Fletch and Nash can direct the kick-ins, Dempsey and Nash creating run from half back, Houli, Stanton and Watson have pretty good workrate, combined with the finishing of Lovett and Dyson on the wings.

McVeigh and NLM as the lead up half forwards who can play a defensive role, Lucas, Lloyd and Neagle as the three tall options up forward with Davey at their feet.

Hille and Laycock share the ruck duties, Reimers and Jetta off the bench whom can both win the contested ball and break the play open and have that X factor.

I think it's ideal, with Winderlich, McPhee and Gumby to come back into the side along with spurts of JJ, Pev, Slattery and Welsh, no doubt they will play games as injuries do happen.

My only concern is whether the players can maintain a high workrate and their young bodies can be resilient enough to handle constant collisions.

Either way, I'm excited!!
 
Thanks dude, I know people don't agree with Welsh being left out of the side, his a good solid player, but I think he lacks the X factor that everyone else possesses.

I think Pears is ready for this level. He has great size and athleticism but isn't too bulked up where he lacks mobility. Coming in as a third tall defender, I think he can have a rookie year similar to Jared Rivers a few years ago, also freeing up either Ryder or Fletch. We need him in the side.

Welsh is a certain starter, while he lacks that X factor he has consistency. Consistency has been one of main downfalls in recent years with the ability to perform against top teams and then lose games to Carlton and Richmond.

IMO Pears wont play much this year as he isn't even 18 yet and still can learn alot from playing VFL. Also I dont think we have room for him yet.
 
Winders won't be playing round 1. McPhee probably will

I will be interested to see if Dempsey is in the team. He still didn't look sharp enough for my mind in the other games, but given that they kind of stuff might be demonstrable in training he might get in.



You've left Welsh, McPhee, and McVeigh out of the team... Knights will not put this lineup out there.

At this point it looks like Lovett will miss round 1, I suppose.


Clearly an oversight in regards to McVeigh and Welsh was to busy working out what kids were going to line-up. Welsh will probably take Dempseys spot and McVeigh pevers (will start JJ to bench). If McPhee does play it will be a 50/50 decision over Jetta and Reimers to get the last spot.

FB: Rama Michael Flether
HB: Nash Ryder Welsh
C: Dyson Watson Slattery
HF: McPhee Lucas L-Murray
FF: Davey Lloyd Jetta
R: Hille McVeigh Stanton
I: Monfries Houli Laycock JJ
 
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