The 2011 Summer Transfer Rumors - part 2

[moomba]

It's Modric's own fault then. If you're negotiating a contract but want to leave for a bigger club in the future, put a release clause in it, not some ****ing stupid gentlemens agreement.

In things like this I tend to always side with club over player. They are the first to want contract re-negotations when things are going well, but there would be all hell to pay if clubs wanted to re-negotiate the contract of someone that isn't performing.

And they want the security of a long term contract, but don't want to make the sacrifices that come with that security. When it comes down to it, players can have total freedom of movement in football, they can negotiate a six month rolling contract with a club and they are free to talk with who they want when they want.

And anyone who has a gentlemans agreement with Daniel Levy has no agreement with Daniel Levy.

and even with that agreement in place, why is Modric getting all upset because we rejected ****ing 22m? If I recall, he said if the club receives a concrete offer that benefits both parties, we'd consider it... Does selling our best player to a rival club for such a price benefit us? Absolutely not.

I think by saying that you won't sell regardless of the price, he can either accept the decision or make things as difficult as he can. Personally I think a club that says "not for sale at any price" is stupid, even if it is just a negotiating ploy.

 

[moomba]

* Put in a transfer request

It's ridiculous and pathetic that he hasn't already done that (same as Fabregas).

FWIW I doubt Levy would let Modric rot in the stiffs, maybe for a week or two but you just have too much to lose by doing that. And Levy loves the bottom line.

 

[Borgsta]

We have nothing to lose by doing it. He isn't going to lose any value from now to Jan

 

[moomba]

We have nothing to lose by doing it. He isn't going to lose any value from now to Jan

I think he will, and depending on the Webster ruling you're six months closer to losing him for nothing.

And do you really want someone around the club that clearly wants to be somewhere else, shooting his mouth off at every opportunity.

Sell him off, get in a replacement(s) nice and early and hope he break his leg 10 minutes into his debut for Chelsea. That's probably what a lot of Spurs fans are thinking right now.

 

[Borgsta]

It's split about 50/50 to be honest with you.

 

[moomba]

Don't quote this as gospel, but I've had a quick look at the Webster ruling, I'll do a Tevez and Modric comparison.

Modric can buy out his contract at the end of the 2012/13 season by paying up his salary for the remaining term of his contract. At £50k a week (guess) that'll cost him around £7.5m, he will then be a free agent.

Tevez could buy out his contract at the end of this season. At £200k a week (guess) that'll cost him around £20m, he will then be a free agent.

I'm not sure there is more to it, because it seems a very good deal for players in certain positions at clubs, and I haven't heard of too many times where the rule has been used.

But if it is as detailed above I think we need to sell Tevez this summer (I thought that anyway) as he'd definately find a club willing to fund his buyout fee, plus add a decent signing on fee on top of it. Modric will be in the same position this time next year if he still wants out (or hasn't already been sold).

It's not really been used much, but I suspect the rule is going to piss off a lot of football supporters in the near future.

 

[EnglishWarrior]

I say put him in the reserves. We can make enough money by selling our deadwood. We only need enough cash to buy one or two strikers this summer anyway.

What a douche. And I was mug enough to believe that he actually gave a shit about the club. No, hes the same as the other 99.9%.

 

[NTRabbit]

BBC says Nasri has agreed to personal terms with Man City, allegedly for a colossal base take home of £185,000 a week, which is double the £90,000 Arsenal were said to have offered him, and I think is the same money that Lionel Messi earns a week before title bonuses etc. Just the transfer fee to be agreed to.

 

[Zidane98]

Do City ever learn? 185000 a week for Nasri really is obscene. It seems that City are only attracting players who will only play for money.

 

[manureid]

Do City ever learn? 185000 a week for Nasri really is obscene. It seems that City are only attracting players who will only play for money.

Well, why else would they initially go there? Once they start winning titles/Champs league then players will see it as a destination to 'win' things, but initially players are only going for the massive payday.

 

[apollo_creed]

Modric is crying to leave, just because Chelsea put in an embarrassing 22m bid. It's no surprise Spurs fans have lost all respect for him.

He claims that he had an agreement with the Chairman, that if an agreement was reached that would favour both clubs, he would be sold... does selling to Chelsea for such a despicable price favour us?... nah

yet your chairman said that he wouldn't be sold UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. was on the website, wasn't it?

So what relevance does the value of Chelsea's offer have? They can offer what they want, Tottenham have said that he won't be sold, despite telling Modric when signing that they would listen to offers.

LEVY HAS ALREADY LIED. So much for the agreement hey?

 

[Borgsta]

yet your chairman said that he wouldn't be sold UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. was on the website, wasn't it?

So what relevance does the value of Chelsea's offer have? They can offer what they want, Tottenham have said that he won't be sold, despite telling Modric when signing that they would listen to offers.

LEVY HAS ALREADY LIED. So much for the agreement hey?

LOL you actually believe an agreement exists? Seriously?

 

[Coledinho]

LOL you actually believe an agreement exists? Seriously?

You actually trust a single word Daniel Levvy says? Seriously?

Im backing Modrics claim of events all the way really. Once a slimeball always a slimeball and so on and so forth

 

[EnglishWarrior]

Stereotyping jews is just wrong Embers, just wrong.

You'd love to have a Levy running your club. He actually gives a fuc. And he didnt make his money through pr0n

 

[Borgsta]

You actually trust a single word Daniel Levvy says? Seriously?

Im backing Modrics claim of events all the way really. Once a slimeball always a slimeball and so on and so forth

A single word of course I would. When you have a 20 page document worth close to 19m pounds there are no gentlemen agreements with it. As I said and if there are then it would require both sides to be a gentlemen which Modric failed rather badly at when he went to the Croatian media and said he wanted to join Chelsea

 

[moomba]

Do City ever learn? 185000 a week for Nasri really is obscene. It seems that City are only attracting players who will only play for money.

Will people ever stop believing the gossip pages are fact?

If a deal had been done, Nasri wouldn't be on Arsenals pre season tour.

 

[Borgsta]

Esp. for City as they are being linked with every player alive.

 

[NTRabbit]

Will people ever stop believing the gossip pages are fact?

If a deal had been done, Nasri wouldn't be on Arsenals pre season tour.

Player agreeing to personal terms is not a done deal, he's not going to sit out of the preseason tour when the club wants to keep him, and his preferred deal might fall through due to unreconcilable differences over a transfer fee.

Hell, Denilson is on the trip and the club has known he will be leaving for 7 months, the only thing not yet known is where he's going.

 

[apollo_creed]

LOL you actually believe an agreement exists? Seriously?

why would he make that up?

and levy + redknapp are all class. wouldn't trust them with forty cents.

 

[moomba]

Player agreeing to personal terms is not a done deal, he's not going to sit out of the preseason tour when the club wants to keep him, and his preferred deal might fall through due to unreconcilable differences over a transfer fee.

Hell, Denilson is on the trip and the club has known he will be leaving for 7 months, the only thing not yet known is where he's going.

Bendtner is missing the trip as he's close to a move.

Denilson isn't as far as I know.

 

[Borgsta]

why would he make that up?

and levy + redknapp are all class. wouldn't trust them with forty cents.

To get public support, to make Spurs fans dislike him more which in turn increasing the chances that Spurs will sell him and he will get his loyalty bonus because he didn't put in a transfer request.

 

[Coledinho]

To get public support, to make Spurs fans dislike him more which in turn increasing the chances that Spurs will sell him and he will get his loyalty bonus because he didn't put in a transfer request.

Your only answering half of the equation there. Why on earth would he sign a contract extension unless he thought he had a geniune out clause. Id say a gentlemans agreement was talked about to get him to sign. Otherwise why in the flying **** would he have signed on with the club? Its not like at the time he resigned he wasnt attract interest from outsiders or anything...

 

[Borgsta]

A contract worth 19m pounds has a gentlemans agreement attached to it, I don't buy it.

 

[NTRabbit]

Bendtner is missing the trip as he's close to a move.

Denilson isn't as far as I know.

Denilson told the club privately he was moving on 7 months ago, and announced it himself to his team mates, and then in a genuine, not out of context interview shortly after the close of the season. So far there's been nought but a rumour of a possible deal to Deportivo.

 

[moomba]

Wenger is still saying that he thinks Nasri will stay, so either he's not really got his finger on the pulse or a deal hasn't been done.

Anyway, Spurs have signed some kid that used to play for Barca, Christian Ceballos. Chelsea have bid £27m for Modric (will be rejected I would imagine, as will their next one). Corinthians have bid £35m for Tevez (will be rejected I would imagine, Kia looking to own Tevez again?)