Opinion The Adelaide Board Politics/COVID Thread Part 3

[Cap]

Who are these people, who are "sick of" this?

I'm sorry - what? What "insecurity" is this?

You don't have to be a keen follower of women's sport, or a passionate advocate for women's rights, to see when something is unfair / unsafe / irrational / wrong.

I don't. For many sporting bodies, large or small, the default position has been "inclusion" until they come under the pressure of evidence and informed opinion. Here's one - recent - a school in North Carolina:

Transgender Volleyball Player Severely Injures Female High Schooler With Spike to the Face

In Cherokee County, North Carolina, a transgender high school volleyball player spiked a ball that caused "severe injuries" to a girl's head and neck.

www.outkick.com

Small number? Here's a partial list:

List of Female Athletes by Sport | She Won

This website is dedicated to archiving the achievements of female athletes who were displaced by males in women’s sporting events.

shewon.org

Where's your threshhold? What "number of people <women, girls>" is the point at which you think it matters? For that matter, how many sexual assaults in hospitals or prisons do you think is acceptable?

I see that you don't care about this issue, that's fine, I guess. But since you don't care, and apparently have not read / seen a lot of information about it, perhaps just refrain from commenting, instead of dismissing people who do care, who have read up on it, as insecure (?WTF again?) men who don't care about women's sport or women's rights. Or maybe state and justify the opposing opinion instead of "meh, it doesn't matter".

See, I didn't say it didn't matter.

More that people like you won't make it better or even help at all.

 

[arrowman]

I didn't say it didn't matter

Well, I thought "it only affects a small number of people" sounded a bit that way. Clarify, if you like.

More that people like you won't make it better or even help at all.

Who are "people like me" and what is involved in "making it better"?

 

[fortunatecrow]

OneGreatCommie has to be the most elaborate troll ever to exist on the forum.

You almost have to take your hat off.

Come on SP, own up! OGC is your alt. left account isn't it?

 

[Cap]

Well, I thought "it only affects a small number of people" sounded a bit that way. Clarify, if you like.

Who are "people like me" and what is involved in "making it better"?

You also suggest you speak for women despite noting you don't need to care about women's sports or women's rights.

Yours is an issue with trans people, so perhaps stop hiding behind concern for women and just be honest. You have an issue with trans gender people.

Again that's fine, but let's stop pretending it's anything else.

 

[arrowman]

also suggest you speak for women

I "suggested" nothing of the sort. I speak in support of women (and men) who care about this issue. I might also speak in support of any other group e.g. indigenous Australians, without claiming to speak "for them".

despite noting you don't need to care about women's sports or women's rights.

I said you don't have to be a "keen follower" or a "passionate advocate". It would be nonsensical to say that someone could "not care" while actually expressing care.

Yours is an issue with trans people, so perhaps stop hiding behind concern for women and just be honest. You have an issue with trans gender people.

Asserted without evidence.

Me: I don't think transwomen should be allowed to compete in the female category.

You: Well clearly you have an issue with trans people, so I can dismiss your opinion without having to mount any sort of reasoned counter-argument.

Convenient. There's no possible legitimate argument because it always comes from transphobia.

Perhaps you could ask Caitlyn Jenner, who also believes that transwomen should not compete in the female category. You reckon Caitlyn has "an issue with transgender people"?

 

[Crow till I die]

Clinton sent her FBI and cheerleading media to take down the sitting president by opening fake investigations into him that caused to wrongful impeachments

FTFY

 

[Crow till I die]

You are on fire with your 'one-step logic' today! It is incredible to watch really.

thanks..Its hard to dumb things down to your level but I try for you

 

[Cap]

I "suggested" nothing of the sort. I speak in support of women (and men) who care about this issue. I might also speak in support of any other group e.g. indigenous Australians, without claiming to speak "for them".

I said you don't have to be a "keen follower" or a "passionate advocate". It would be nonsensical to say that someone could "not care" while actually expressing care.

Asserted without evidence. A convenient deflection. Or perhaps a strawman.

Perhaps you could ask Caitlyn Jenner, who also believes that transwomen should not compete in the female category. You reckon Caitlyn has "an issue with transgender people"?

Yawn. You white knight's are painful. Women can't solve issues, need a man to point them out and fix them!!!

It's an important issue to women - and to men who support women's rights. And in the broader sense, to parents.

Yes you did, you see that right? I mean unless you are all women, and men and parents of course. We could be a hive mind I guess ?

I said you don't have to be a "keen follower" or a "passionate advocate". It would be nonsensical to say that someone could "not care" while actually expressing care.

You aren't expressing any care for women's sport or women's right, you a re merely using it as a vehicle to drive your 'concern' about transgender people

You don't have to be a keen follower of women's sport, or a passionate advocate for women's rights, to see when something is unfair / unsafe / irrational / wrong.

Stating your opinion on a topic on behalf of others, hmmmm...

Asserted without evidence. A convenient deflection. Or perhaps a strawman.

Like providing some jail assault? Or a spiking injury?

Perhaps you could ask Caitlyn Jenner, who also believes that transwomen should not compete in the female category. You reckon Caitlyn has "an issue with transgender people"?

Or perhaps ask women? And women's sporting bodies or medical experts or heck, experts on the topic.

Like you, Caitlyn Jenner isn't an expert on anything, the only difference between Caitlyn and you is the surgery.

You can be concerned about transgered people with pretending to be concerned about women's sport. I realise you are worried about the labels, but deal with it, comes with the territory.

 

[ADL9798]

Came across this quote today:

“The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.”

Had a chuckle thinking about this thread.

 

[ADL9798]

Hahaha.

 

[OneGreatClub]

When it suits them….

 

[Crow till I die]

When it suits them….

look at all the jobs being stolen from natural born and legal American citizens and keeping wages artificially low...what an advert to run on to stop illegal immigration

 

[kirky]

So should we all be held accountable for the actions of our fathers and our father's father's? Or more by our own actions?

When it comes to Gina Rinehart, actions speak louder than words

Lately there have been a lot of headlines about Mrs Gina Rinehart, Hancock Prospecting and the $15 million sponsorship of Netball Australia�...

www.nit.com.au

Thought it was obvious - we are accountable for our actions not that of our forebearers.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

She’s right.
The only way a minority party can win is to suppress opposition votes, gerrymander and refuse to accept any election results that go against them

Or like this

Midterm elections: Google manipulates search engine results against Republicans, Media Research Center says

The Media Research Center is calling on Google to "stop its war on democracy" after a study found search engine results favor Democrats over Republicans.

www.foxnews.com

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

There really should be a limit on the number of terms they can serve... as she has far outlived her stay!

 

[Eagleboy2011]

I have never met her but have heard her on the radio a few times. She sounds confrontational.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/federal-budget/covid-vaccine-injury-payouts-explode-to-77-million-budget-reveals/news-story/df39fcf430c6cadb487a9914df7a3422

pfizer not liable so our taxers will do it

 

[spenze]

There really should be a limit on the number of terms they can serve... as she has far outlived her stay!

I've always felt sorry for her long suffering husband Bob

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I've always felt sorry for her long suffering husband Bob

 

[spenze]

Thought it was obvious - we are accountable for our actions not that of our forebearers.

Not to some

 

[Crow till I die]

I've always felt sorry for her long suffering husband Bob

Didn't her son Brad make a lot of money in business though - why does she need to work

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

I've always felt sorry for her long suffering husband Bob

And her cousin, Black Betty Bam

 

[Eagleboy2011]

He had enough of her. He went to Wentworth Prison to get away from the nagging

 

[Cap]

Federal budget 2022: Winners and Losers

Find out if you're a winner or loser in the latest federal budget

It's the second federal budget of the year, but this time Treasurer Jim Chalmers is delivering Labor's first in close to a decade. Here's where it plans to spend its money and where it wants to rein things in.

www.abc.net.au