Unsolved The Beaumont Children
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I haven't posted much lately. I have been working on my background theory and motive for my POI.
However, I have just started reading 'Unmasking the Killer'. I can presume that at least some of the information is factual, given one of the authors worked on the Beaumont case.
One of the things they mention, are the witness statements.
They all saw the three BC walk to the Northern part of Colley Reserve, and lay out their towels.
They then approached the man, who was laying on his towel watching the BC.
They start talking and flicking the man with their towel, as though they are familiar with him.
I have been thinking about this information and the connection to my POI.
My poi, volunteered on the boat ride. (I'm still trying to find the operators name)
I have researched this and found that they were at the Northern end of the side shows.
This seems to fit with my theory, that my POI groomed the BC prior to their disappearance. Probably by giving them free rides, or buying things for them.
He - is the reason, the BC went that way, instead of going towards their bus stop.
They thought he might be there. They were already familiar, with where they might find him.
They let him dress them.
They waited outside the change rooms, while he changed.
The key to my theory, is still the boat rides.
Help would be appreciated
However, I have just started reading 'Unmasking the Killer'. I can presume that at least some of the information is factual, given one of the authors worked on the Beaumont case.
One of the things they mention, are the witness statements.
They all saw the three BC walk to the Northern part of Colley Reserve, and lay out their towels.
They then approached the man, who was laying on his towel watching the BC.
They start talking and flicking the man with their towel, as though they are familiar with him.
I have been thinking about this information and the connection to my POI.
My poi, volunteered on the boat ride. (I'm still trying to find the operators name)
I have researched this and found that they were at the Northern end of the side shows.
This seems to fit with my theory, that my POI groomed the BC prior to their disappearance. Probably by giving them free rides, or buying things for them.
He - is the reason, the BC went that way, instead of going towards their bus stop.
They thought he might be there. They were already familiar, with where they might find him.
They let him dress them.
They waited outside the change rooms, while he changed.
The key to my theory, is still the boat rides.
Help would be appreciated
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There is a ridiculous story going around in certain forums that said the children were taken by friends of Nancy's to protect them from various people without Jim's no-how.
This family, named *********, live on the river somewhere and took the children to bring up as their own. The person mentioning all of this has written names and dates to coincide with the disappearence.
Iv'e spoken to the man allegedly who was Grant, aka David and no way is he or his sisters the Beaumont children.
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Hi Lyn.
Nothing needs to be secret.
I have had to do some forensic medicine when working in ED, which included working with victims of sexual assault. It's a difficult area and I was always grateful for the quality of the services provided in Victoria, which meant my involvement was usually limited to medical issues. Unfortunately in the worst cases the medical/trauma issues become a priority so my own experience is skewered by seeing the worst. It's not an area I could work in, my hat's off to all the nurses, doctors, social workers etc who do. It's a tough gig.
I've kept up a bit with the topic since retirement, I have a couple of friends who still do some forensic work and one of my children does crisis work with queer people who are sexually assaulted.
So I'm reading this new book on the BC. They talk about the children going into the bakery to buy food. 1 pasty, 5 pies, 6 finger buns and 2 large bottles of drink. My theory - The abductor told the kids he was going to drive them home and bought enough food for himself the children and the Beaumont parents. Of course this was just a ploy. Thoughts?
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Hi Lyn, just because it's in that book it doesn't mean it's true. I and numerous others have been blocked from their website and book promotion crap for presenting absolutely valid, knowledgeable evidence to the contrary of their numerous unsubstantiated claims. Please don't believe everything you read. Picture three children 4, 7 and 9 carrying all that food with heavy GLASS bottles along with 17 or so other verified items they were already carrying. And no, the perpetrator wasn't waiting outside for them. It was a strict bus zone. Please don't be a victim of this nonsense. The writers have not solved the case at all.
Finding a person wouldn't be that hard either. So many school photos are now online. Lets say you examine all of the class photos from the target school during the late sixties. You are looking for a tallish man between 20 and 40yrs with blonde hair. The teacher was normally photographed alongside the students. You could have a few photos spanning a couple of years.
Sometimes there are student and relief teachers, that are not normally photographed, so harder to locate them. I tried asking students who said they went to school with jane, who was their grade teacher from 65?, most couldn't remember.
You never know, someone may have already combed the online school old alumni FB Pages. I wonder if the photo is a match to the 1966 sketch?
Pfennig once Blabbed about one of his crimes to his cell mates. So far hasn't offered himself up for any other crimes. He's been chatty before, hopefully he'll spill the beans.
Thanks. That's the guy.
Thanks for your reply. I know it is ,mostly circumstantial and glorification, but you would have to think there would have to be a few truths. I certainly don't think they have solved the case. I could slip my POI into every explantation they had in the first chapter.
Good idea. I used a past students FB page. I found a person from 71. I only had her first name and roughly where she lived. It's certainly helping me with my research.
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Well, whoever the culprit was, it sure wasn't Max McIntyre! The story about a friend of Nancy Beaumont secreting the kids away 'for their own safety' isn't the only piece of far-fetched gossip surrounding this long-unsolved case!
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58 years today, if they were still alive Jane would be 67, Arnna 65 and Grant 62. At this distance in time, I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened at Glenelg Beach that day.
Never too late for someone to walk into a police station and confess. Thats given the offender is still alive.
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I would say that 95% the offender is dead by now, even if still alive and very old I think he will take his secret to the grave with him. No way would he voluntarily confess; even if he did so on his deathbed the confession of a dying man is notoriously hard to verify from a legal perspective.
My theory in this case has always been that the offender was a young, married father who would take his own kids to Glenelg beach and used these visits to meet and get the Beaumont children to trust him in the weeks beforehand. It's the only explanation that makes sense as to why three children normally wary of strangers were so comfortable in the company of an unidentified man that day before they vanished. It is unlikely they would have fallen for the stranger with a bag of candy trick on the day given Jane was a responsible 9-year-old. A seemingly innocent comment made by Arnna several weeks earlier about 'Jane having a boyfriend at the beach,' would also make sense if she was talking about the man's young son.
So if they ran into this man on his own at Glenelg Beach this day, who advised them that his own son and daughter weren't there because they had to go shopping for school supplies with their mother, but how about they come back to his house out of the searing heat because his wife and kids would be returning soon? Then they could see their friends, and he could drive the three of them home before their own mother missed them? The kids might well have believed that because this man was such a nice guy based on their past encounters and that he was a husband and father there was no way he could be a dangerous stranger and gone with him, the crowds at the beach, Colley Reserve and Jetty Road providing ideal cover for the offender to carry out the abduction.
Even if the above hypothetical is exactly right, and the man responsible is dead by now, it is still going to be mighty hard to prove beyond all reasonable doubt. Say the man's elderly widow died leaving behind a 'not to be opened in my lifetime letter' with a lawyer in which she advised that her late husband was the abductor and murderer of the Beaumont children, citing her reasons for knowing this, it's still hard to prove that the information provided is correct without physical proof. And likewise if the man's son made a deathbed statement about his father's alleged involvement in the case, or the daughter was bothered by her conscience and gave the police a statement alleging her deceased father was the killer, we have the same problems of verifying the information to a high enough legal standard to prove the case.
The only way it could be verified is if the information led to location of the remains of the Beaumont children, or if there was some sort of other proof, like the killer keeping Jane's purse as a souvenir and presenting it to the police, but even then you can't try a dead man.
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This is an interesting theory, and one I'd never previously considered.
I've tried to search for info on when he moved here from Germay, but can't find anything.
Does anyone know?
Pfennig, (13) along with his brother Roland (11), sister Heidi (15) and parents arrived in Australia aboard the ship "Castel Felice". The journey took the German family from Bremerhaven via Fremantle to Melbourne arriving on June 29, 1961. After spending time at the immigration centre of Bonegilla, Victoria, they were then transferred to the Woodside Immigration Centre in in the Adelaide Hills, South Australia. After three weeks they were then given accommodation at a Glenelg hostel.
Academically, Pfennig performed brilliantly through high school and went on to study at the newly opened Flinders University, in the southern suburbs of Adelaide.
Pfennig was unsure of what career path he wanted to go down; he studied a range of subjects which included science, mathematics, philosophy and psychiatry. When he found himself enrolling for a course in Spanish, he realised that he was delaying the inevitable; it was time for him to get a job. Even though he did not have a teaching degree he began his educational career at Adelaide Boys High, situated off West Terrace, in the Tambawadi Park, which is just one section of the 760 hectares of parklands that surround the City of Adelaide. Architect, Colonel William Light, planned the extensive ring of parks to accommodate the "healthful recreation of the City's aspiring citizens.”
The school is only minutes from the CBD, and 15-minute walk to the iconic sporting ground, Adelaide Oval. During the latter half of 1973 Pfennig left Adelaide Boys High; there is no record whether he was dismissed or left on his own accord.
Academically, Pfennig performed brilliantly through high school and went on to study at the newly opened Flinders University, in the southern suburbs of Adelaide.
Pfennig was unsure of what career path he wanted to go down; he studied a range of subjects which included science, mathematics, philosophy and psychiatry. When he found himself enrolling for a course in Spanish, he realised that he was delaying the inevitable; it was time for him to get a job. Even though he did not have a teaching degree he began his educational career at Adelaide Boys High, situated off West Terrace, in the Tambawadi Park, which is just one section of the 760 hectares of parklands that surround the City of Adelaide. Architect, Colonel William Light, planned the extensive ring of parks to accommodate the "healthful recreation of the City's aspiring citizens.”
The school is only minutes from the CBD, and 15-minute walk to the iconic sporting ground, Adelaide Oval. During the latter half of 1973 Pfennig left Adelaide Boys High; there is no record whether he was dismissed or left on his own accord.
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I wonder if he would try and blame a strict German fatherly-upbringing like Von Einem did.
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There is "gossip" all over the place, there are a lot of people coming out about Max, there is even one in America who has said her own mother was Jane Beaumont, the reason being, they had the same teeth lol
Then there is the woman who met Jane and was sworn to secrecy, well that went down well, the first thing the woman did was contact the New Idea magazine and the officer in charge of the case here in Adelaide, that was another BS story..
I could go on and on but come up with a big fat zero!!
Just re read your reply. Can you tell me what the percentage of pedophiles commit aggravated adult rape? This is the part that I don't get, turning to violence.
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