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So losing a prelim is actually better than winning one? This is groundbreaking analysis
The best teams at NOT going back to back
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You can't assume that Ports win rate would stay the same in a season of normal length with undetermined double ups. Well you could assume that if you were a moron. I'm not accusing you of being that, this is just a hypothetical.
And I also showed that even if you did apply this terrible extrapolation, after finals Hawthorn's record was superior.
Richmond is very lucky they did not have to face the 2008 Hawks, who were a considerably stronger side than the 2018 Pies who spanked you.
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Pissed out the window given to them. Disgraceful
Who were the strong Melbourne based teams Richmond defeated 2017-2020? There are none. 2008 Hawthorn, 2009 St Kilda and 2011 Collingwood would've given them a good old fashioned spanking.
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Buddy was robbed of the Brownlow that year. Also Gaz Jnr and Bartel …badly awarded Brownlows should not represent the general talent of the compBut they had Ling the greatest tagger in the world. Was he on Buddy and Roughy was he?
When Cooney wins the 08 Brownlow that other guy has no right to say Dusty wouldn’t get a kick in that era due to taggers.
It’s also not surpising the Geelong people laughed at my comment. They have to to save face. Their best team wasn’t even as good as the 08 hawks and thus would get wrecked by most premiers let alone dynasty teams.
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OMG the crows and giants were horrible
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That’s the mail I’m getting yeah
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If we were fully fit you’d have a point. But Dusty was on one leg and the defence had gastro.
I won’t even get into your stupid can’t assume crap. They could’ve gone undefeated as well hence why we use the average.
Hawks are a great side I agree, better than 07-11 Geelong. But fortunately they will not be regarded as better than us in the record books and thus every other dynasty team will also be considered better than Geelong. It’s so good
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I think looking at the validity of whether a team is actually back to back is an important question to consider
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If Cooney could I’m pretty sure Dusty would as he again has the record Brownlow votes in a season. But let’s move on it’s not relevant.
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We made them look horrible. Nobody was beating us in the 2019 GF hence why it’s the GF win % record. Unless you think winning by 1 point is better than that for some weird reason.
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If Dusty put his mind to it he could win Connect 4 in 3 moves
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Case in point - 1989 was almost NOT B2B due to Hawthorn running completely out of tickets in the second half. The longer the season the harder it is (clearly) to go B2B. Due to the length of the season - and the normal length of quarters - Geelong very nearly got over the line with a very spirited effort from Gaz Snr. It was so close. Agonisingly close.
It’s completely fair game IMO to question Richmond’s B2B based on this painful painful memory for Cats fans
It's changed everything
The excuses for the 2018 PF disaster reaching mythical legend statusIf we were fully fit you’d have a point. But Dusty was on one leg and the defence had gastro.
I won’t even get into your stupid can’t assume crap. They could’ve gone undefeated as well hence why we use the average.
Hawks are a great side I agree, better than 07-11 Geelong. But fortunately they will not be regarded as better than us in the record books and thus every other dynasty team will also be considered better than Geelong. It’s so good
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The percentage record: Handicap Golf for Football Fans
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There we have it folks.
No context needed.
The greatest grand final performance ever isn’t based around opposition quality, build up, game play, the level the opponent brought on the day, the opposition line up 1-22.
Its percentage
No context needed.
The greatest grand final performance ever isn’t based around opposition quality, build up, game play, the level the opponent brought on the day, the opposition line up 1-22.
Its percentage
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They did not turn up. You know it. Come on.
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I am actually happy that you are happy. I mean it. Why ruin someone else’s happiness. It’s a cheap thing to do and I am quite pluralistic with respect to belief systems generallyIf we were fully fit you’d have a point. But Dusty was on one leg and the defence had gastro.
I won’t even get into your stupid can’t assume crap. They could’ve gone undefeated as well hence why we use the average.
Hawks are a great side I agree, better than 07-11 Geelong. But fortunately they will not be regarded as better than us in the record books and thus every other dynasty team will also be considered better than Geelong. It’s so good
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There we have it folks.
No context needed.
The greatest grand final performance ever isn’t based around opposition quality, build up, game play, the level the opponent brought on the day, the opposition line up 1-22.
Its percentage
Maybe look at why I brought it up
2008 Hawks had an underrated nucleus and a super coach/game plan.
Franklin (100 plus goals)
Roughead (70 plus goals)
Hodge
Mitchell
Rioli
Sewell
Crawford
Lewis
Bateman
Dew
Croad
Birchall
Brown
Williams
Guerra
Then Young, Ellis, Osborne etc all stood up that year especially in the big games.
The Cats absolutely should've beaten them. But the form they were in and the chemistry that side had by the end of the year - I'd back them to give any side 2016 onwards a hell of a game.
People underrate them because a) they were underdogs in the GF and b) they lost their way a bit before reshaping into their (better) dynasty side.
Franklin (100 plus goals)
Roughead (70 plus goals)
Hodge
Mitchell
Rioli
Sewell
Crawford
Lewis
Bateman
Dew
Croad
Birchall
Brown
Williams
Guerra
Then Young, Ellis, Osborne etc all stood up that year especially in the big games.
The Cats absolutely should've beaten them. But the form they were in and the chemistry that side had by the end of the year - I'd back them to give any side 2016 onwards a hell of a game.
People underrate them because a) they were underdogs in the GF and b) they lost their way a bit before reshaping into their (better) dynasty side.
Well except for the fact a poll was ran on this exact topic and Richmond were last by a country mile. In fact I don't think even one neutral rated for Richmond as the best dynasty side this century. Which is why people laugh when they are brought up to compare to the other three this century. And why the merged teams snob their players. They never beat a great side. Every other dynasty side did it at least once.If we were fully fit you’d have a point. But Dusty was on one leg and the defence had gastro.
I won’t even get into your stupid can’t assume crap. They could’ve gone undefeated as well hence why we use the average.
Hawks are a great side I agree, better than 07-11 Geelong. But fortunately they will not be regarded as better than us in the record books and thus every other dynasty team will also be considered better than Geelong. It’s so good
He's not happy though which is why he whinges and moans in every thread that each Richmond side/player didn't get the recognition they deserved. But then pretends they ARE held in such esteem. And then he melts down again when people tell him no. It's very entertaining. But he ain't a happy camper.
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In 20/30 years time you think a 3 in 5 team will be considered better than a 3peat or 3 in 4 team. Yeah good luck with that.
History will see us as the best MCG and GF team ever unless somebody beats it. So eat it.
