The Big Alberton FL Issue Thread

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Re: Alberton Footy League

If Warragul merged with dusties and entered the EDFL within 5 years things would have leveled out and they would just be like any of the other teams. Blokes like Matt Gray and Nathan Leishout would not be playing there, probably plenty more.
 
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But a combined warragul side would have the entire warragul infrastructure behind them.

wonni are not only the best (or in the top two at least) on field, they also have far more money/potential revenue coming from sucha large township. it is the financial side that is moreso the problem, i feel.
 

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Re: Alberton Footy League

Reading the Yaram paper today and Devon are pretty much certain to not play and Toora will also be on the agenda to not play also
 
Re: Yarram to forfeit

not sure if Yarram is a 'Laughing Stock' Sometimes it takes a person or club with a bit of weight behind it to make a stance and/or get the ball rolling. Last years premiers have stood up first. If it was one of the other clubs down the bottom the impact would not have been as great. Personally I'm undecided if it was right or wrong to forfeit. I'm not personally affected, but imagine the impact on our own footy clubs if they were faced with a similar situation. It was a MASSIVE call.
 
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I wonder whether the reason it was Yarram who first refused to play the Power was because, if they did it, no accusation could be made that they were doing it just because they were 'scared'?

Having won the GF against Wonthaggi last season, it could hardly be said Yarram saw themselves as having no chance in the game. It seems to me the clubs who are out to get rid of Wonthaggi are acting in concert. It would have been a deliberate decision to have Yarram pull the pin first, leaving the way open for clubs who did have no chance against them of doing the same with less loss of face.
 
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thisisaname said:
good point. if i played for the Yarram footy club, i would be putting in a clearance immediately. The thing that keeps spinning me out is the fact THEY BEAT WONTHAGGI FOR THE FLAG LAST SEASON. Yarram footy club would have to be the laughing stock of gippsland football!
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Korumburra-Bena are top of the ladder due to Wonthaggi gaining no percentage (assuming they would have won). Wonthaggi also lost $7,000 by the game against Yarram not being played. If the Allies choose not to participate next week, Wonthaggi will presumably miss out on another seven grand. Not sure Wonthaggi are laughing very much.

Strange thing is Wonthaggi Workmens have won the past four premierships in the cricket. Judging by rumours I've heard they'll lose up to six, possibly more players from their premiership teams, due to retirements, movements to Melbourne cricket and their players being employed as coaches by other teams in the association. Maybe the last-mentioned is the way the footy clubs in Alberton should have gone, though the amount of money Wonthaggi FC has might make that difficult.
 
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The whisper around the clubs is that DWWWW will also not play Wonthaggi. Leaving Wonthaggi's footballers and netballers with no sport again this weekend. My concern is the the jnr players who don't understand the situation and only want a game of footy or netball may look at other alternatives and be lost to our great game's. Some clubs down this way think jnrs is not a big part of there clubs where the smart clubs see them as a asset.
If clubs dont want play Wonthaggi thats thier choice but think of the effect to their future players If they want to forfeit leave it at a senior level.

Another point of intrest Yarram wanted to forfiet last season but thier coach siad he would quit if they did so.

Maybe thats why they have lost a lot of players from that side this season?

Yarram may also forfiet against Kilcunda-Bass because to far to travel which would be a discrace as they have never played Bass at home in the 4 years they have been in the comp with Bass traveling there with no compliants I do hope this is not true.

The VCFL created this mess lets see if they can fix it.

PANTHERCAT
 
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I do hope that you are just having us on about yarram forfieting to kily-bass. whilst they do have some support for the wonthaggi position, pulling the pin just because of the travel would be a disgraceful.
 

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prime said:
I do hope that you are just having us on about yarram forfieting to kily-bass. whilst they do have some support for the wonthaggi position, pulling the pin just because of the travel would be a disgraceful.
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Yeah I agree.

They have done their bit. They should not try to fight the war on too many fronts. They have started the ball rolling on the Wonthaggi issue, they would be foolish to start on another angle now.

Small steps.
 
Sorry, I might be missing something here, but didn't the AFL (ie the AFL clubs) ACCEPT the Power into the comp in the first place? Wonthaggi's population resources etc were just as great then as what they are now (when compared to the "minnows"). Why did the AFL clubs accept them in the first place? They never asked for advice about accepting Wonthaggi from anyone back then, no doubt because they thought they had everything covered - oops.
Looks to me like they created this monster and they are running around now looking for everyone else to fix it. :eek::eek::eek:
 
scragga54 said:
Sorry, I might be missing something here, but didn't the AFL (ie the AFL clubs) ACCEPT the Power into the comp in the first place?
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The Alberton never wanted the Power. What happened was The Rovers absorbed the Blues, then changed the name. Because the Rovers were already in the competition, nothing could be done. They were quite smart about it, had they started a complete new entity they could have refused their entry however to put it simple the Power are the Rovers with a new nickname and the Blues players and finances.
 
The issue about Wonthaggi being accepted into the league in the beginning was that the 2 Wonthaggi clubs merged Rovers were already in Alberton league thus the merged clubs were allowed to stay. What should have happened was the the merged clubs should have stayed in the West Gippsland comp as Wonthaggi Blues had played in 2 grandfinals in a row before the merger in a comp 2 divisions above the alberton comp.

The main argument about Wonthaggi is that a club playing in strong league mergers with a club in a weaker division stays in the weaker league dominates the comp. has population and money to always be strong what do the smaller clubs do who haven't got access to these resources.
Do they go broke to try and compete?
or just accept while Wonthaggi are in a chance at the big prize is out of reach.

PANTHERCAT
 
panthercat said:
The issue about Wonthaggi being accepted into the league in the beginning was that the 2 Wonthaggi clubs merged Rovers were already in Alberton league thus the merged clubs were allowed to stay. What should have happened was the the merged clubs should have stayed in the West Gippsland comp as Wonthaggi Blues had played in 2 grandfinals in a row before the merger in a comp 2 divisions above the alberton comp.

The main argument about Wonthaggi is that a club playing in strong league mergers with a club in a weaker division stays in the weaker league dominates the comp. has population and money to always be strong what do the smaller clubs do who haven't got access to these resources.
Do they go broke to try and compete?
or just accept while Wonthaggi are in a chance at the big prize is out of reach.

PANTHERCAT
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Very succinctly put, and rightly devoid of the emotion which characterises so much comment on this issue. Same could be said of Wang's post.
 
The league has a major problem that if wonni go Korumburra will dominate the league, they are on top in almost every grade. Then the clubs will wont to get rid of them. The clubs and the VCFL are in a tough position and there is no easy soultion.
 
Has anyone else heard this. I was talking to someone who had heard it on the radio today, so not sure if it is accurate or not. They said AFL had a meeting last night, it was agreed to split the competition in two for next year, that is the east end and the west end. Not sure exactly where east stops and west begins. DWWWW had agreed to not forfeit this weekend given the meeting, but if AFL didn't follow through then a number of clubs will forfeit against wonthaggi in the future.

Also Yarram to meet with VCFL on saturday morning to discuss forfeit.

Did anyone hear the report, or are they having me on.
 
Allies are playing this saturday, or are at least going to 'bring what we've got'... I'd be backing U18, Reserves and some netball will not field a team. Also heard the above Queens birthday rumor, I think Yarram are concerned about negative press or VCFL sanctions and are backpedalling furiously!

Time for the VCFL to step up and finally restructure footy - size of town should be similar, and if possible travel should be no greater than about an hour. 2 divisions in South Gippsland anyone??
 
That is great news that the allies are playing this week. Congratulations to them. Hopefully this show of strength will attract some more players to their club.
 

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