Movie The BigFooty Top 100 Films Countdown (3-1!)

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I mean, it's a great movie. But Blondie, Tuco and Angel Eyes are just fantastic characters.

The three characters are pretty much identical to Once Upon a Time in the West. Tuco: Cheyenne, Angel Eyes: Frank, Blondie: Harmonica. IMO Fonda does the best job out of them all.
 
Oh, I totally disagree. There is none of the lighthearted humour between Cheyenne and Harmonica like there is between Tuco and Blondie.

I just love the cheekier style of the Dollars films. Once Upon A Time In The West takes itself way too seriously.
 

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Oh, I totally disagree. There is none of the lighthearted humour between Cheyenne and Harmonica like there is between Tuco and Blondie.

I just love the cheekier style of the Dollars films. Once Upon A Time In The West takes itself way too seriously.

I just think Once Upon a Time in the West (and Leone's later films) is far deeper and more interesting than the Dollars films. The Dollars films are classics, and entertaining, but Once Upon a Time in the West is a hypnotic film and frankly in a different league to the Dollars films.
 
Nah. It's more arty, but I don't much care for that stuff.

My favourite films are ones that set out to achieve something and do it perfectly. Casablanca and GBU are not deep films by any stretch of the imagination, but they are two of the most entertaining films of all time. And for me, that's what films are - entertainment.

I reckon if you asked 100 people which film was better, 75+ would say Once Upon A Time In The West. But if you asked them which was more entertaining, 75+ would say The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.
 
A matter of perspective, a film with a lack of story and character depth I don't find entertaining regardless of what its trying to achieve. Not saying this applies to GBU, just think it is weaker in those categories.

Casablanca is incredibly deep, more so with the complexity of characters, and to a lesser extent the story as well, its just constructed so perfectly it feels that way.
 
So, for the final 10 films, I'm going to reveal them over the next three days. We're going to start with 10-7.

10. Blade Runner (1982)
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Director: Ridley Scott
Starring: Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young
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Appeared on: 9 Lists
Votes: 59
Highest Position: 1st
Internet
Rotten Tomatoes: 92%
Metacritic: 88/100
IMDB User Rating: 8.3
IMDB Top 250: 122
IMDB Description:
Deckard, a blade runner, has to track down and terminate 4 replicants who hijacked a ship in space and have returned to Earth seeking their maker.

9. American History X (1998)
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Director: Tony Kaye
Starring: Ed Norton, Edward Furlong, Beverly D’Angelo
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Appeared on: 10 Lists
Votes: 62
Highest Position: 1st
Internet
Rotten Tomatoes: 82%
Metacritic: 62/100
IMDB User Rating: 8.6
IMDB Top 250: 33
IMDB Description:
A former neo-nazi skinhead tries to prevent his younger brother from going down the same wrong path that he did.

8. The Usual Suspects (1995)
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Director: Bryan Singer
Starring: Kevin Spacey, Gabriel Byrne, Chazz Palminteri
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Appeared on: 11 Lists
Votes: 65
Highest Position: 1st
Internet
Rotten Tomatoes: 89%
Metacritic: 77/100
IMDB User Rating: 8.7
IMDB Top 250: 26
IMDB Description:
A boat has been destroyed, criminals are dead, and the key to this mystery lies with the only survivor and his twisted, convoluted story beginning with five career crooks in a seemingly random police lineup.

7. Goodfellas (1990)
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Director: Martin Scorsese
Starring: Robert DeNiro, Ray Liotta, Joe Pesci
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Appeared on: 12 Lists
Votes: 75
Highest Position: 1st
Internet
Rotten Tomatoes: 97%
Metacritic: 89/100
IMDB User Rating: 8.8
IMDB Top 250: 15
IMDB Description:
Henry Hill and his friends work their way up through the mob hierarchy.
 
American History X, with that disaster of an ending, WOW

that kerb scene really stuck with people

I also didn't rate the ending. The dinner table scene with Norton was special though. Interesting 62/100 rating on metacritic o_O Out of this 4 GoodFellas is the best. Not my favourite from Scorsese though.
 
A matter of perspective, a film with a lack of story and character depth I don't find entertaining regardless of what its trying to achieve. Not saying this applies to GBU, just think it is weaker in those categories.
Oh come on. So you're not entertained by The Naked Gun? Airplane? Pretty much any action film ever made? Artiness is great but it's just one element of filmmaking.

Casablanca is incredibly deep, more so with the complexity of characters, and to a lesser extent the story as well, its just constructed so perfectly it feels that way.
I really disagree that Casablanca is a deep film. Its themes are pretty basic and I don't think the characters are very complex either, once you start to analyse them. I think it is a wonderful example of how a film can be absolutely perfect despite not particularly excelling from an artistic perspective.
 
I also didn't rate the ending. The dinner table scene with Norton was special though. Interesting 62/100 rating on metacritic o_O Out of this 4 GoodFellas is the best. Not my favourite from Scorsese though.

Metacritic seems to be the most random metric out of the three I used. RottenTomatoes and IMDB both seem to be more consistent.
 

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Metacritic seems to be the most random metric out of the three I used. RottenTomatoes and IMDB both seem to be more consistent.

RT is where I turn to these days. .. Then I read why people hate or like a movie to see if these are reasons I will too ;)
 
RT is good because it's binary. A review says the movie is either mostly positive or mostly negative. Hard to get that wrong. If you have a big enough sample of reviews, you will end up with a % rating that is a reasonable indicator of how good the movie is.

Metacritic is a bit too fancy for me with its weighting system.
 
Oh come on. So you're not entertained by The Naked Gun? Airplane? Pretty much any action film ever made? Artiness is great but it's just one element of filmmaking.

Of course, but even with comedies and action people appreciate quality of writing and delivery. You didn't say Corky Romano or Date Movie, even though they are the same style, but because they are void of any quality.

I really disagree that Casablanca is a deep film. Its themes are pretty basic and I don't think the characters are very complex either, once you start to analyse them. I think it is a wonderful example of how a film can be absolutely perfect despite not particularly excelling from an artistic perspective.

I saw Casablanca about 6 years ago, one of those films you hear about and know were greats but never got around to seeing. I'd seen heaps of classics before but they all seemed old fashioned, Casablanca was the first film I can recall that characters seem timeless.

I think the themes seem basic because of how educated people have become over the last 70 years, the theme of interracial friendship I can't recall before Casablanca, at least with upper class people (Maybe Gone With The Wind, but even still that defined a class divide). 1942 in america roughly only one in five people would hire an African American.
 
good discussion on Casablanca in here :thumbsu:

great flick, without actually having anything great about it, the fact that it is still a great so many years on makes it even greater, thats how great it is :p
 
I wonder is there any inspiration from the OP to do a Worst Films Countdown, perhaps not a top 100, maybe just a top 10 or 20.

Not a good idea. Most people haven't seen (or even heard of) the films that would genuinely qualify as the worst of the worst, so the whole thread will be populated with average or disappointing films instead. Plus you'll get the odd 'edgy' poster listing highly acclaimed films they feel are overrated.
 
Great reading in here guys, passes the time well whilst waiting for the rest of the count. FTR, OUATITW vs TGTBATU is heavily in the former's favour in my book. And it's not a quality vs entertainment thing either, cause I find them both to be supremely entertaining.
 

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