The Bulldogs and Umpires: Time for a Royal Commission?

[Dancing Dougy]

Have a read you tin foil hat wearing flogs!!

14 umpiring mistakes in total. 7 each per side.

And that doesn’t include the Bontempelli goal taken away with no evidence.

 

[Bald]

Can Bulldogs fans just admit that they play for frees more than every other team?

Why? We haven't received the most free kicks in the comp?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

The population of Footstcray is maybe 20k people tops. So the theory you're proposing in this thought experiment is that the AFL could be compromising the integrity of the national competition in pursuit of the hearts, minds and wallets of these 20k people?

You're not suggesting there is a conspiracy, I know, but this is one of the strongest ideas you have for why there could be.
I... don't even know what to say...

Those 20K are a portal to their much wider diasporic communities.

Anyway, play on. I said quite clearly I don't believe there is a conspiracy, just chucking in a suggestion and couldn't care what anyone thinks of it.

 

[GuzzLG]

Lol nah mate it’s all just “Discipline” haven’t you been reading ?

If they are so disciplined, why would they throw the ball all the time?

Maybe its more about getting away with breaking the rules than it is about actually not breaking them in the first place.

 

[adogsfan5]

Why? We haven't received the most free kicks in the comp?

Dogs get too many free kicks

yeah but you flop more

yeah we also have players that do it but you have a higher degree of flop

yeah but you throw the ball out and never get pinged

yeah but you throw more than other teams

yeah but you get more frees in finals

yeah but Stevic seems to always get your games and favours you

yeah but Hanneberry got his legs taken out in 2016

yeah but you’ve had more frees since 2016 than anyone else

yeah but who cares about richmonds free kicks, there’s only a correlation for the dogs team

yeah but there’s vic bias

yeah but if the sanfl ran the league it would be a different story

yeah but Selwood is still a champion

yeah but someone in the league actually barracked for the dogs in 2016

yeah but you guys actually train for flops

yeah but 2016 has an * now

yeah but it’s good for the league to have a successful western suburbs team.

Haha it is embarrassing in here.

 

[adogsfan5]

If they are so disciplined, why would they throw the ball all the time?

Maybe its more about getting away with breaking the rules than it is about actually not breaking them in the first place.

2 throws against Libba last night and 1 for Bont.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Libba done for 2 throws last night and Bont 1. Awks.

And there was another 20 that went unpunished. But running under a shit bounce with a minute on the clock is totally unfair.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

No we don’t. We give away less. Why is it hard for people to understand

We do not receive the most free kicks in the comp. read that again.

Net gain... my god not that hard.

 

[adogsfan5]

And there was another 20 that went unpunished. But running under a sh*t bounce with a minute on the clock is totally unfair.

Lol another poster who wants to throw out a random number and would actually be completely guessing and wouldn’t be able to find any. Boring as.

 

[Bald]

Dogs get too many free kicks

yeah but you flop more

yeah we also have players that do it but you have a higher degree of flop

yeah but you throw the ball out and never get pinged

yeah but you throw more than other teams

yeah but you get more frees in finals

yeah but Stevic seems to always get your games and favours you

yeah but Hanneberry got his legs taken out in 2016

yeah but you’ve had more frees since 2016 than anyone else

yeah but who cares about richmonds free kicks, there’s only a correlation for the dogs team

yeah but there’s vic bias

yeah but if the sanfl ran the league it would be a different story

yeah but Selwood is still a champion

yeah but someone in the league actually barracked for the dogs in 2016

yeah but you guys actually train for flops

yeah but 2016 has an * now

yeah but it’s good for the league to have a successful western suburbs team.

Mods can we get a suspension of this account. Clearly plagiarism going on here..

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

The population of Footstcray is maybe 20k people tops. So the theory you're proposing in this thought experiment is that the AFL could be compromising the integrity of the national competition in pursuit of the hearts, minds and wallets of these 20k people?

You're not suggesting there is a conspiracy, I know, but this is one of the strongest ideas you have for why there could be.
I... don't even know what to say...

Carlton would have the most soccer/association football fans in our fanbase than any other club by a mile at any rate (The Italian Factor)

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Lol another poster who wants to throw out a random number and would actually be completely guessing and wouldn’t be able to find any. Boring as.

There is literally one posted a page back, it’s so common you just accept it as part of playing the dogs and needs to be irradicated. If you were a fan of the game you would advocate for it as well.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Well I'll say at the outset that I'm not a subscriber to this AFL/umpires/Bulldogs conspiracy theory, but has it occurred to you that Footscray's demographic is strongly migrant? Who tend to follow soccer.

I could totally believe that would be a target area for the AFL. There's one theory. (Again, I'm not suggesting there is a conspiracy.)

If there really was a conspiracy, we would be getting more media coverage than what Essendon get for finishing 8th.

We currently get ten second mentions on AFL media when winning whilst the loser gets talked about for ten minutes. Last week if you looked at the media beforehand you literally could not tell who Essendon was playing.

 

[adogsfan5]

There is literally one posted a page back, it’s so common you just accept it as part of playing the dogs and needs to be irradicated. If you were a fan of the game you would advocate for it as well.

Please stop posting that we never get pinged for throws then. Because we copped 3 last night. Don’t come on here either and say they missed another 20 if you have no proof of any. The one a page back was a throw by McCarthy that wasn’t paid.. but you don’t wanna comment on this one…?

 

[BringFevBack2021]

There's probably a more scientific reason as to why the Dogs get paid more frees than other sides. There's nothing remarkable about the way they play that would warrant more frees - nor would any umpire or organisation anywhere risk ruining the integrity of the sport by intentionally granting one team an unfair advantage.

Perhaps it's just purely down to something as simple as the kit they wear? Colours can evoke psychological responses. Couple this with the fact that they are first to the ball usually, and you may have your answer.

FWIW - I don't actually think it's ever the quantity paid to the Dogs that's the issue, I think it's the differential 'advantage' they gain that's the issue. I also think as humans, we have an implicit recency bias. You are going to care far more about a bad free in the dying minutes than one that cost you a goal early in the second quarter.

It's crappy, but I find it very far-fetched to suggest that there is a conspiracy in AFL land to grant the Dogs more frees than other sides.

 

[freddy mercury]

I support neither team, dont support any team in the AFL. I cannot get the free kick that was not paid against Caleb Daniel

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Caleb Daniel

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28

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171cm

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72kg

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Last 5

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21.3

5star

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11.5

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HB

9.8

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3.5

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2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

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16.4

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7.2

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9.2

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3.4

4star

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2.6

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CL

0.2

2star

, the one where he was tackled, spun around 1.5 times and failed to dispose of the ball correctly. I just cannot for the life of me understand how it was play on.

 

[Dancing Dougy]

There's probably a more scientific reason as to why the Dogs get paid more frees than other sides. There's nothing remarkable about the way they play that would warrant more frees - nor would any umpire or organisation anywhere risk ruining the integrity of the sport by intentionally granting one team an unfair advantage.

Perhaps it's just purely down to something as simple as the kit they wear? Colours can evoke psychological responses. Couple this with the fact that they are first to the ball usually, and you may have your answer.

FWIW - I don't actually think it's ever the quantity paid to the Dogs that's the issue, I think it's the differential 'advantage' they gain that's the issue. I also think as humans, we have an implicit recency bias. You are going to care far more about a bad free in the dying minutes than one that cost you a goal early in the second quarter.

It's crappy, but I find it very far-fetched to suggest that there is a conspiracy in AFL land to grant the Dogs more frees than other sides.

BringFevBack2021 for PM!!

 

[drcollossimo]

Have a read you tin foil hat wearing flogs!!

14 umpiring mistakes in total. 7 each per side.

And that doesn’t include the Bontempelli goal taken away with no evidence.

So this is an official AFL Twitter account ?

It’s administered by an ex AFL umps or just some bloke on Twitter ?

 

[Skystyler]

its not the dogs fault their every umpire's 2nd favourite team, but last night was not umpired by 3 objective individuals thats for sure. I cant explain why the home team got jobbed by the umps the way they did, but they got jobbed hard.

 

[Inspecta Gadget]

Dogs fans feel no need to defend their team. Still doing most of the posting in these threads.

 

[adogsfan5]

So this is an official AFL Twitter account ?

It’s administered by an ex AFL umps or just some bloke on Twitter ?

Its another persons opinion on the umpiring that actually goes through the actions in detail. And it was for both sides. Not just the dogs.
In comparison to your one eyed views.

 

[Dancing Dougy]

So this is an official AFL Twitter account ?

It’s administered by an ex AFL umps or just some bloke on Twitter ?

AFL accredited ump.

 

[Bald]

There's probably a more scientific reason as to why the Dogs get paid more frees than other sides. There's nothing remarkable about the way they play that would warrant more frees - nor would any umpire or organisation anywhere risk ruining the integrity of the sport by intentionally granting one team an unfair advantage.

Perhaps it's just purely down to something as simple as the kit they wear? Colours can evoke psychological responses. Couple this with the fact that they are first to the ball usually, and you may have your answer.

FWIW - I don't actually think it's ever the quantity paid to the Dogs that's the issue, I think it's the differential 'advantage' they gain that's the issue. I also think as humans, we have an implicit recency bias. You are going to care far more about a bad free in the dying minutes than one that cost you a goal early in the second quarter.

It's crappy, but I find it very far-fetched to suggest that there is a conspiracy in AFL land to grant the Dogs more frees than other sides.

Great post.

Except we don’t haha.

 

[lioninthesand]

So this is an official AFL Twitter account ?

It’s administered by an ex AFL umps or just some bloke on Twitter ?

They are using the opinion of an unverified account on twitter on several threads to say its 'case closed'

 

[drcollossimo]

They are using the opinion of an unverified account on twitter on several threads to say its 'case closed'

Exactly its literally this thread on Twitter but apparently that’s “evidence”