Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 2

[Gethelred]

Good post.

The post-game chat here (me included) has been full of praise for TDK's game. I felt it was a real break-out game for him - I've previously been far from convinced that he's our long-term number one ruck option, but this game has changed my mind... a bit. I'm now wondering how we'll set up when Pitto returns. And indeed, whether Pitto will come straight back in.

However, on further reflection, I wonder if it's more that TDK held his own against a strong opponent - one that was expected to dominate him. It seemed, watching the match, that TDK had a far greater influence on the outcome, and perhaps that's true. But the stats don't bear that out. Perhaps this is just one of those times when the stats don't tell the real story.

I'm excited to see what TDK will bring over the remainder of the year and what he might become in the next year or two. But will he be the dominant ruck we all hope he might? I don't know... (how's that for fence-sitting!!)

For reference, ruck stats from the match:
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Darcy clearly won the hitouts, and hitouts to advantage. Perhaps worth noting though, that Darcy had just the one mark for the match!

Darcy also got 3 tackles and 4 clearances (2 clangers) compared to TDK's 2 tackles and 3 clearances (3 clangers). One contested mark to 2.

Think this is one of those appearances are deceiving things. Darcy had a stronger game, but he was expected to; TDK didn't shame himself at all, and that massive centre clearance leap put everything Darcy did in the shade. Darcy also seemed to tire the longer the game progressed, where Tom got better, stronger, leapt higher and harder.

A ruckman is a bit like a wicket keeper. You're only going to notice when your own bloke's dropping absolutely everything and you're getting pantsed. TDK also had a lot more confidence than the last game he played against Darcy, and the rest of the team brought their game significantly more than they did last time. We're a different squad now, and there's a good deal more team defense than we ran early in the season.

 

[Magruder]

They've only got 2 potential lay down miseres, with North (next) and finishing off with the Weagles. The rest of their games are Melb, Us, Bulldogs, Saints, Port (Adel), Sun (GC) of which if each of those plays at least close to their best it's anyones game in particular the games where Stewart is missing makes it much easier.

Don't like to see quality players miss games but if Stewart is going to be suspended... 3 would be nice.

 

[Gethelred]

we still sacked the coach..........

But the why always matters.

Sacking the coach (or the CEO) for political reasons or impatience isn't the same as sacking the coach (or the CEO) after having reviewed whole departments and instituting the conclusions reached.

Also, I'm going to be instituting an ellipsis commission, and yours is going to be the first name submitted.

 

[thylacine60]

My fullstop key jams, ok?........

 

[Gethelred]

My fullstop key jams, ok?........

And the Reply Button Authority also would like a word.

 

[thylacine60]

Chief! I'm being targeted!


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[Aphrodite]

Chief! I'm being targeted!


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[Aphrodite]

 

[Arr0w]

Mills and Hooper were untouchable, apart from Oliver, SOS did really well.

Or perhaps others did poorly not selecting Charlie and Harry earlier

 

[Gethelred]

Mills and Hooper were untouchable, apart from Oliver, SOS did really well.

Or perhaps others did poorly not selecting Charlie and Harry earlier

Hmm...

It's really Weitering vs Oliver, and I don't think you'd pass up the chance to take Jacob at 1 anyway.

 

[forever blue 1]

On the couch is so much better with Lyon hosting over Healy imo.

I think Lyon is more wise and holds thoughts and he is honest
Others either talk too soon or the like
I like Lyon
I enjoy Dunstall
And up the blues !

 

[AceAndy]

And the Reply Button Authority also would like a word.

It really makes conversations difficult to follow if posters dont use the reply button. Opportunity to make a name for yourself G

 

[forever blue 1]

I think this is the right thread
Has anyone ever paid the 3
To permanently ban someone ?
That seems rather odd? Anyways
I’m not looking for a fight but saw this about 3 weeks back and I started to scratch head
Then the answer came to me. Anyways all good

 

[thylacine60]

Hmm...

It's really Weitering vs Oliver, and I don't think you'd pass up the chance to take Jacob at 1 anyway.

please put it to longthinwoodenmissile the benefits of taking a midfielder over a kpp............I'll wait just over here..........

 

[Arr0w]

Hmm...

It's really Weitering vs Oliver, and I don't think you'd pass up the chance to take Jacob at 1 anyway.

Hooper was academy, no hope getting him

 

[Gethelred]

Hooper was academy, no hope getting him

Jacob, meaning Weitering.

 

[Arr0w]

Jacob, meaning Weitering.

Ah, misunderstood.

Always wonder who would have been selected if both Harry and Charlie were off tge board before our picks

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

I think the top 4 is still wide open, same for sides trying to make the 8

The second part of that is why a win this weekend becomes crucial. Lose to Saints, a slip up against a poor side, and we’re back battling for 8th.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Imagine taking picks 5 and 6 to that draft and coming home with Francis and Parish instead of Chuck and Harry.

 

[thylacine60]

Imagine taking picks 5 and 6 to that draft and coming home with Francis and Parish instead of Chuck and Harry.

long may he rule.........

 

[My Hat]

Whateley is not allowed on our band wagon as much as he wants to get on now more than anyone else in the media. Couldn't see what we were building last year and where we could improve. Showed a lack of vision to see all we needed was a decent game plan.

Gatekeeping is boring.

If someone wants on the bandwagon, I say welcome. Come one, come all. If anyone cares about who joined when then it's not hard to find out, it isn't a secret.

 

[SammaGilberto]

Imagine taking picks 5 and 6 to that draft and coming home with Francis and Parish instead of Chuck and Harry.

 

[Arr0w]

Wonder what sells them more papers?
Doom and gloom Carlton
or the
Up and about Carlton

Both

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

Both

Spot on Arr0w. Long as they can put Carlton in the headline that’s it. Good/bad/indifferent it’s us full stop

 

[Gointocarlton]

Both

Agree, IF (big IF) we keep winning and get stronger with players returning from injury, we will be the darlings of the competition. Our brand, when its on song, is exciting and people love it. If we play finals, they will love us and that will sell players.
IF we finish high in the 8 and threaten, strangely I think it will tun to hatred again (but it will still sell papers).
IF we capitulate, they will dine out on us and that will sell papers.