The Collingwoood & St Kilda Merry-Go-Round.

[Amber Guzzler]

Re: ST KILDA launch an internal investigation over brawl allegation

Why are these threads always made by collingwood supporters.

Did winning the premiership not lower your lower class bitterness, angst and general disdain for everything?

This spiteful attitude from your mob will not go unnoticed by the mystical forces of karma.

You have been warned, karma is waiting to strike!

We start these threads because of the crap we put up with every time one of our own steps out of line.

When we are given ample opportunity to start threads like this... That is karma.

 

[rose jam]

Re: Roo - People are trying to break us down.

Having said that - if the saints players actually start to believe this us vs them crap, it might actually work. It won't do anything for their credibility and respect from the general public, but it might get them to win a flag. In which case they'll be within their rights to give us the reverse peace sign and smile smugly.

I don't think the US v THEM will work for the Saints because it would be based 100% on a lie, and that doesn't really bond a club.

For example, if a player messed up and then admitted it and was showing that he'd be willing to make changes and do penance, and people were still going hard at the player that's a pretty good catalyst for US v THEM.
But not when there's been multiple screw ups and players lying to themselves about it when deep down they know it's all their own fault.

Saints certainly won't be anybody's second favourite team any more, good for the doggies I guess

 

[mysainters]

Re: Roo - People are trying to break us down.

Unless people buy memberships for their 'second team' I don't really see that as a big loss.

What is this 'second team' business anyhow, can someone explain the concept?

 

[Amber Guzzler]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

The legend continues to grow.

Luke is a great leader, which is why he remained in the leadership group right until he left.

However your post is a wild attempt at joining dots that probably aren't there.

Surely you'd have to agree this is exactly what you're missing at the moment.

 

[mysainters]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

Surely you'd have to agree this is exactly what you're missing at the moment.

No.

Personally I think we have good leaders, and good people at the club, though they all appear tainted with the same brush at the moment.

Is your criticism labelled at the whole St Kilda leadership group?

Don't put Luke on a pedestal Collingwood supporters, it won't bode well for Luke or your club, everyone is human afterall.

How do think Luke is going to go when the boys are feeling like they have better opportunities at GWS, and maybe approach him about it for his advice?

 

[rose jam]

Re: Roo - People are trying to break us down.

Unless people buy memberships for their 'second team' I don't really see that as a big loss.

What is this 'second team' business anyhow, can someone explain the concept?

Outside of your team, which team gives you the least amount of pain if you watch them win a Grand Final?

Answer that and you're in the zone.

 

[mysainters]

Re: Roo - People are trying to break us down.

Outside of your team, which team gives you the least amount of pain if you watch them win a Grand Final?

Answer that and you're in the zone.

I don't want anyone else to win the grand final though?

 

[Amber Guzzler]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

No.

Personally I think we have good leaders, and good people at the club, though they all appear tainted with the same brush at the moment.

Is your criticism labelled at the whole St Kilda leadership group?

Mate, if your leadership group was doing a good job, you wouldn't be in the strife you're in. Training camp + Drugs = Poor leadership. It's as simple as that.

Don't put Luke on a pedestal Collingwood supporters, it won't bode well for Luke or your club, everyone is human afterall.

How do think Luke is going to go when the boys are feeling like they have better opportunities at GWS, and maybe approach him about it for his advice?

Just because he'd be the only decent leader at St Kilda doesn't mean he's the only one at Collingwood.

 

[kosifantutti]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

Keep crapping on anally about semantics. I dont mind.

Unheard of, almost unheard of, no difference really. Its just an expression. But thanks for pointing out the Voss case which I had forgotten....it proves my point.

Unheard of and never have very specific meanings. If you were talking about the difference between rarely and uncommon, that would be semantics.

The Voss case actually negates your point as you had said the practice was "unheard of".

Pies fans are good at semantics.
In the last couple of days I've read:
Riewoldt lied at his press conference (Well he didn't really lied but they took half a sentence and ran with it)
Milne never apologised to Malthouse and Licuria (Apparently he was supposed to drop a copy around at ever Pies supporters house in Australia)
and now unheard of is the same as almost unheard of.

Well the saints almost won two flags in a row. I guess in your book that's the same as winning two flags in a row.

 

[kosifantutti]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

Yes, and he's admitted he should have said "Almost unheard of". It was a slip of the tongue, not a flaw in his argument. The fact that you continue to hinge on this point rather than move on shows an obvious flaw in yours. Had he said "Almost unheard of" n the beginning, what would your response have been?

He didn't admit he should have said almost unheard of. He said they were the same thing, which they are clearly not.
If he had said almost unheard of, which is totally different to unheard of, I probably still would have pointed out Voss as being a much more famous case than Jarryd Allen and left it at that.

 

[Amber Guzzler]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

He didn't admit he should have said almost unheard of. He said they were the same thing, which they are clearly not.
If he had said almost unheard of, which is totally different to unheard of, I probably still would have pointed out Voss as being a much more famous case than Jarryd Allen and left it at that.

Like I said, the fact that you're still harping on about it shows you have a flawed argument. "Unheard of" and "almost unheard of" aren't totally different, they're "almost" exactly the same. If you argument hinges on the supposition that they're completely different, then you've already lost.

 

[kosifantutti]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

Like I said, the fact that you're still harping on about it shows you have a flawed argument. "Unheard of" and "almost unheard of" aren't totally different, they're "almost" exactly the same. If you argument hinges on the supposition that they're completely different, then you've already lost.

But you interpret

Unheard of, almost unheard of, no difference really

as

Yes, and he's admitted he should have said "Almost unheard of".

if you think they are the same, you have already lost.

Even you would have to admit, St Kilda "almost" won the Grand Final. Do you think this thread would be almost the same if they had? Because almost winning the grand final and winning the grand final are almost exactly the same.

 

[rose jam]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

As I said, the 'club' didn't blame the media.

"Keep the faith and know that we are good people, we are human, we are fallable, we make mistakes, but we're the first ones to put our hands up and say we're learning," Lyon said

What Ross Lyon says there is either spin or a lie. Because if you back track to the statements that night from Riewoldt who basically lines up with "everyone's against us it's not our fault", wtf is he showing that he has learn't?

You can't fix a problem if you don't admit that you have one.

 

[Amber Guzzler]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

But you interpret


as


if you think they are the same, you have already lost.

Even you would have to admit, St Kilda "almost" won the Grand Final. Do you think this thread would be almost the same if they had? Because almost winning the grand final and winning the grand final are almost exactly the same.

Actually, I interpreted it as "I honestly can't believe how pathetic you're being", and you continue to give me reason to trust that interpretation.

 

[kosifantutti]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

Actually, I interpreted it as "I honestly can't believe how pathetic you're being", and you continue to give me reason to trust that interpretation.

And you resort to cheap insults.

I "almost" admire that.

Mods, can this thread be moved to the Collingwood board so we can all ignore them. I can't see any point in having it here.

 

[mysainters]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

Mate, if your leadership group was doing a good job, you wouldn't be in the strife you're in. Training camp + Drugs = Poor leadership. It's as simple as that.

Actually it's not as simple as that at all, it never is.

When your club stuffs up next time, I won't be laying the boots in, because I don't derive any pleasure from it.

I just want to see my club win a premiership, I actually think new captain is pivotal to that, because I believe the last few years would weigh heavily and change would be refreshing for the list.

I'm not commenting anymore on this though, because I don't want to feel like I'm having a discussion in the naughty corner.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

Unheard of and never have very specific meanings. If you were talking about the difference between rarely and uncommon, that would be semantics.

The Voss case actually negates your point as you had said the practice was "unheard of".

Pies fans are good at semantics.
In the last couple of days I've read:
Riewoldt lied at his press conference (Well he didn't really lied but they took half a sentence and ran with it)
Milne never apologised to Malthouse and Licuria (Apparently he was supposed to drop a copy around at ever Pies supporters house in Australia)
and now unheard of is the same as almost unheard of.

Well the saints almost won two flags in a row. I guess in your book that's the same as winning two flags in a row.

You're just embarrassing yourself now. Keep it up. Good work.

 

[Amber Guzzler]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

And you resort to cheap insults.

How's this? You stop posting pathetic arguments, and I'll stop calling you on it.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

How's this? You stop posting pathetic arguments, and I'll stop calling you on it.

His pathetic arguments are unheard of.

Or almost unheard of!

 

[Seth]

Re: Why the current Saints team will NOT win a premiership

We'll at least Carey never starred in any gay pr0n with his prescription pill popping team mates. Yeah OK. I'll tell you about Wayne Carey. He's got issues with himself, the world, his family, his career, the law and yes it's highly unlikely St. Kilda will finish behind North Melbourne

But the real issue here is, after 3 GF appearances Wayne has two of these:

Failwoldt has zero. You really need to try harder

Brilliant!! LMFAO.

 

[NQTIGER]

Re: The Collingwwod & St Kilda Merry-Go-Round.

Finally some sense, its not a St kilda Scandal board, but we have some of the threads together.

 

[Falchoon]

Like I said, the fact that you're still harping on about it shows you have a flawed argument. "Unheard of" and "almost unheard of" aren't totally different, they're "almost" exactly the same. If you argument hinges on the supposition that they're completely different, then you've already lost.

wow, English lessons from Amber Guzzler, where do we sign?

Lesson 1.

Unheard of and not unheard of are exactly the same

Lesson 2.

The combining of Oxy and Moron

 

[Amber Guzzler]

wow, English lessons from Amber Guzzler, where do we sign?

Lesson 1.

Unheard of and not unheard of are exactly the same

Here's a lesson for you. I didn't say "not unheard of", I said "almost unheard of".

Lesson 2.

The combining of Oxy and Moron

Welcome to moronsville. Populate, you.

 

[Falchoon]

Here's a lesson for you. I didn't say "not unheard of", I said "almost unheard of".

Lesson 3


Unheard of: yes/no and the multiplicity of options inbetween .

 

[Amber Guzzler]

Lesson 3


Unheard of: yes/no and the multiplicity of options inbetween .

In the next lesson, we cover the concept of the grey area. You should get a lot out of that Falchoon, considering you have NFI what that is.