Never understood this.
Boxes of chocolates literally tell you what each chocolate is. You look at the lid or the paper insert, and compare it to the wrapper on the cholocate you've selected - and you know precisely what you're going to get.
St Kilda v Western Bulldogs.. who will be better in 2024?
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Boxes of chocolates literally tell you what each chocolate is. You look at the lid or the paper insert, and compare it to the wrapper on the cholocate you've selected - and you know precisely what you're going to get.
Couldn't disagree more with this.
How much better a year could Bont have than 2023? Yet they still missed finals.
Improvement is going to come from the other 30 plus senior players, gelling together better, and growth of JUH, Darcy, Sanders, O'Donnell, etc.
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Dogs are a better side for 2024, the real question for them is consistency.
St Kilda needs to push for finals and keep up with development of players (Wanganeen-Milera and Windhager to really step their games up this year IMO)
St Kilda needs to push for finals and keep up with development of players (Wanganeen-Milera and Windhager to really step their games up this year IMO)
With Macrae and Liberace another year older - it's all on Bont.
If he is absent for any reason, they could go from one of the best midfields a couple of years ago, to one of the worst very quickly.
You're right about last year though. Just imagine how much they'd have sucked without him last year?
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Only likely to change with a change of Dogs coach early in the season.
Reckon Saints have a better midfield. Better runners.
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Yeah I'm with you. Even if they didn't tell you what kind of chocolates they are on the box they're still chocolates. It's not a random lucky dip box is it. You won't be finding a gold ring, rusty nails and a cat turd in there.
Silly quote. No idea how it became popular.
The Bulldogs have the most overrated list in the league. It’s good enough to be competing for finals, which is where they’ve been the last two years.
I reckon they are pretty close overall.
Dogs could "go on a run" and the Bont is probably the best player in the AFL
But
The Saints seems more even and play as a team.
The Dogs seem all over the place and you can't be sure what you are going to get. They could win the flag or have some kind of Bevo spiritual meltdown and win the spoon if Bont gets injured.
Dogs could "go on a run" and the Bont is probably the best player in the AFL
But
The Saints seems more even and play as a team.
The Dogs seem all over the place and you can't be sure what you are going to get. They could win the flag or have some kind of Bevo spiritual meltdown and win the spoon if Bont gets injured.
Those three have barely played, if at all.
If that's what the Dogs are relying on then they have some issues...
Not sure Bigfooty have figured out how good Owens and Nasiah are yet...
Legit Guns already.
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Saints well ahead. Have picked up some decent young players.
Footscray seem divided, inc about the coach. Has that Footscray review finished/ been composted/ shredded?
My mob has farewelled Dalrymple who is a fine pick up for the Saints. Interestingly he fell out big time with Bevo.
Footscray seem divided, inc about the coach. Has that Footscray review finished/ been composted/ shredded?
My mob has farewelled Dalrymple who is a fine pick up for the Saints. Interestingly he fell out big time with Bevo.
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While I do agree we are the better running side, Dogs having Bont puts their midfield well ahead.
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English, Bont, Libba and Treloar would be about the best stating midfield in the comp ...
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**** if I know, I do not trust either of these teams.
This.
Outside of one recent exception, Dogs & Saints fans are united in being perennially let down.
As for the OP question... all depends of the trajectory of our young guys. If Mitchito, Scud, Nas & co develop in bonafide A graders then we'll go past the Dogs at a rate of knots. A full season from Max will obviously be hugely influential... still took apart some very good defenders with one arm last season.
On the other hand the Dogs landing Sanders will keep their midfield in the top echelon for a while yet.
I think people will show a little bit more respect towards St Kilda after another season under RTB. Not many too bullish on us. Think we will surprise many. Youth is extremely promising, and there might be a few stars amongst them. Lower half of the 8 or just outside. If we just miss I don't think it's a huge issue. The club is finally on the right path and our time will come in the next 2-3 years.
Dogs I can never work out. Always surprises me when they lose games I fully expect them to win, even when the Bont dominates. Anywhere from 5th to 12th for me. If I had to guess I would say they should land in the lower half of the 8.
Dogs I can never work out. Always surprises me when they lose games I fully expect them to win, even when the Bont dominates. Anywhere from 5th to 12th for me. If I had to guess I would say they should land in the lower half of the 8.
The more I read in this thread, the keener I get on St. Kilda and the less enthusiastic I get about the Doggies.
Smith will be a massive loss this year, Bont can't have a better year than he had in 2023, and Libba/Macrae/Treloar aren't getting any younger. Whilst St. Kilda have some incredible young talent who will only get better with another year under their belts.
I reckon the Saints are primed for top 8, pushing top 4, and now leaning towards the Doggies spending another season looking on in September, which would mean bye, bye Bevo.
Smith will be a massive loss this year, Bont can't have a better year than he had in 2023, and Libba/Macrae/Treloar aren't getting any younger. Whilst St. Kilda have some incredible young talent who will only get better with another year under their belts.
I reckon the Saints are primed for top 8, pushing top 4, and now leaning towards the Doggies spending another season looking on in September, which would mean bye, bye Bevo.
Drafting sanders helps us. He's better then any of the young saints mids already
Are you referring to Steele, Crouch or Seb Ross??
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