The Law The Death Penalty

[Power Raid]

There are loads of crimes that justify the death penalty but there are loads of examples demonstrating investigating police, department of prosecution, judges and juries who have not acted in good faith. As such we should always allow criminals the right to appeal until they die of natural causes (whilst incarcerated and post release).

 

[Crankyhawk]

Well, if you believe that society has the right to kill people rather than remove them from society. go ahead and lobby the politicians to make the relevant changes to legislation.

Of course, you will volunteer to perform the deed?

How are you going to kill him?

Obviously championing hanging; Do you recommend the short drop or the distance recommended in the hanging tables? The traditional brass ring or a slip knot?

Maybe excecutioner shold be part of expectations of society ,like voting, paying taxes, performing jury duty and killing people? If you are over 18 letter arrives one day for you to present yourself to present yourself to execute this person

Bring back the public hangings so that the crowd and the hanged man can also get an erection?

Maybe the foreman of the jury that convicts the murderer should be the executioner?

The possibilities are endless, thinkt it through and start a movement

Interesting that with the photo and naming him you acknowledge him far more than the victim and the crime he committed

Personally, I believe that a convicted murderer gives up his name whilst in custody and society should only refer to them by the victims name. If they die in custody, buried in an unmarked grave in unconscrated ground

How would I do it? Massive injection of fentanyl and propofol. Can add in suxamethonium too after then fentanyl and propofol take effect to ensure breathing stops after awareness does

 

[rank and file]

How would I do it? Massive injection of fentanyl and propofol. Can add in suxamethonium too after then fentanyl and propofol take effect to ensure breathing stops after awareness does

Don't even need a massive dose of fentanyl,just little bit that is easily sourced.
Take your word on the other ones,seems like a lot of red tape.
Even if it's quick and humane it is definitely a slippery slope that will never get reintroduced
here.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Don't even need a massive dose of fentanyl,just little bit that is easily sourced.
Take your word on the other ones,seems like a lot of red tape.
Even if it's quick and humane it is definitely a slippery slope that will never get reintroduced
here.

If we are talking for government, all the drugs I have mentioned are in common use in hospitals around the country

 

[Power Raid]

I support reasonable force response by individuals to protect themselves, their families and others which may result in a "death sentence" being administered as a result.

I do not support a government carrying out a "death sentence" despite delivering the same result.


The key difference is the government is the overseeing body which can hold "the individual" to account. Where is the government gets a "death sentence" wrong, who holds them to account? The best we get is a few scape goats but the machine continues its merry way.

 

[GrayRanga]

If we are talking for government, all the drugs I have mentioned are in common use in hospitals around the country

A "hot shot" works for crims in drug disputes with addicts.

I was just asking the question as all the big strong men and women that propose the death penalty for any infraction of the Law always imply that the State should do it.

I'm just suggesting that they take personal responsibilty for their stated beliefs and actually do it themselves.

Causing someone's death with the intent to kill or causing grievous bodily harm meets the Common Law definition of Murder.

Proponents of the death penalty want to murder people.

Fair enough, but at least have a bit of honesty about it.

Do we stop at being the punishment for only murder or extend it to other crimes?

 

[Crankyhawk]

A "hot shot" works for crims in drug disputes with addicts.

I was just asking the question as all the big strong men and women that propose the death penalty for any infraction of the Law always imply that the State should do it.

I'm just suggesting that they take personal responsibilty for their stated beliefs and actually do it themselves.

Causing someone's death with the intent to kill or causing grievous bodily harm meets the Common Law definition of Murder.

Proponents of the death penalty want to murder people.

Fair enough, but at least have a bit of honesty about it.

Do we stop at being the punishment for only murder or extend it to other crimes?

I had it is punishment for certain egregious crimes - repeated (as in found guilty, served time, then reoffended) of crimes of nature such as murder, aggravated rape, child rape, massive fraud and financial gain (more than say $10 million in embezzlement).

 

[Gough]

How would I do it? Massive injection of fentanyl and propofol. Can add in suxamethonium too after then fentanyl and propofol take effect to ensure breathing stops after awareness does

I think pharmaceutical companies are a little bit jumpy about supplying the drug that's used to kill an otherwise healthy human which is a touch unusual for an industry that otherwise has little sign of a moral compass.

 

[IlovethePies]

At the last minute, Robert Roberson's impending execution has been delayed, and evidence will be heard which attests to his innocence.

The Texas Supreme Court has blocked Robert Roberson's execution for now

An unusual legal move has bought more time for a Texas man who was set to be executed Thursday evening.

www.tpr.org

 

[Crankyhawk]

I think pharmaceutical companies are a little bit jumpy about supplying the drug that's used to kill an otherwise healthy human which is a touch unusual for an industry that otherwise has little sign of a moral compass.

Oh yeah that affected the supply of thiopentone (another induction agent I recall using in early 2000s) has been replaced by propofol generally