The Great Beat-Up: The Drug Problem at West Coast *MB thread*

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Gunnar Longshanks said:
This whole issue of drugs in AFL, and of West Coast supposedly being the worst offenders, is a total beat-up.

Rumour and innuendo are no substitute for real evidence, but that hasn't stopped commentators from inflating this issue at every opportunity.

The Footy Show interview with West Coast chairman Dalton Gooding was presented as some kind of massive expose - maybe I missed it, but was anything actually revealed?

Gooding basically admitted their had been some discipline problems at the club, before saying the club wouldn't tolerate any more stuff-ups and that illicit drugs were unacceptable. What was the big revelation here? What else was he going to say? You'd get the same line on drugs and discipline from every chairman in the league.

This whole saga is marked as a beat-up by the complete lack of real information. I'm yet to see a shred of evidence that there is a "drug problem" in the AFL, or at West Coast or any other club.

Notice the way Hutchison kept referring to "a perception back East" that West Coast had a drug problem. That perception was emphasised because Hutchison had no actual evidence to use as a starting point for his questions. A perception - that's what's driving this beat-up.

I love the way commentators use "anecdotal evidence" to build their case. What does that phrase mean in this context? Rumour? Hearsay? In most reporting, that would not be sufficient to drive a story - but in this issue, that's considered a smoking gun.

Craig Hutchison spuriously linked Cousins getting locked up and Kerr assaulting a taxi driver with a supposed drug problem at West Coast. How does that work? Were drugs a factor in either incident?

Then there's the Fletcher incident. If anyone knows what happened in Las Vegas, then let's hear it. It's unsound to just assume it was a drug overdose in the absence of any real information?

Like I said - show me the evidence. Don't just recite unsubstantiated rumours or point to incidents that had nothing to do with drugs.

Quite frankly, I couldn't care less what Ben Cousins or any other player does or doesn't ingest in a nightclub. I have no interested whatsoever in this half-baked soap opera that surrounds players' off-field activities. The public appetite for this stuff mystifies me.

I thought most people follow football because they like the spectacle and the contest. Players will be judged on what they do on-field - and rightly so. Why is there such interest in everything else?

That said, the way this story about the "drug problem" has been manufactured needs to be pointed out.

People should demand some facts instead of just lapping up innuendo that feeds their dislike of the Eagles.
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Ohh my, who looks silly now.
 
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Gunnar Longshanks said:
In a nutshell, you've just demonstrated why I'm better than you.

You simply don't have the imagination to ever get the better of me. Let alone the brains or the balls to make a compelling argument.

Run along.
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Just becasue you say it doesn't make it so. Perhaps you could set up a poll? You have lost. Everything you say now is just gravy. Please, continue.
 
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Helix said:
Watch as Longshanks stumbles around with a blissfull unawareness. In his mind he sails through the forums without a challenge, not because of some self proclaimed superior mental agility, but because everyone is far too busy amusing themselves at his expense. Longshanks remains convinced that he is hero for the masses, but is blind to the reality, as he simply cannot see through all the tickets he has on himself.
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Brilliant retort 11/10:thumbsu:

"Gunnar" says it all really!....Mind boggling!

Google it! " Gunnar Longshanks" it used to be a reference to a fictional chararacter in series of book by a very C grade author but seems Gunnar has done some self promotion and bombarded Google with tripe?

Anyway this is NOT! made up. Google now, roll up, rollup and see the mind of a looooonatic
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Re: The Great Beat-Up: The Drug Problem at West Coast

Look all you guys should stop ganging up on Gunnar like a bunch of schoolyard bullies. It's time for someone to stand alongside him and in his defence say that
















Nope. Can't do it. Sorry Gunnar you are on your own.:eek:


BTW, we are eagerly awaiting your critique of the round 2 votes over on the West Coast board.
 
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See cadet!!

The last two posters have something called credibilty. Look it up son.

And even though they feel obligated to support you, through their love of the Eagles, they just can't quite do it..

Do you know why cadet??

Because your name, and the embarrassment that goes hand in hand with that, is attatched to the post.

You have declared, to one and all, what an insignicant twat you are.

Suck it up!!


Ego boy!!
 
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Re: The Great Beat-Up: The Drug Problem at West Coast

Gunnar Longshanks said:
TRANSLATION: "Other people think I'm cool, so there!"

Have you framed them and stuck them on your fridge?

What kind of loser brags about getting PMs?
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INTERPRETATION: George Bush thought that Iraq was still in possesion of WMD's and was part of AQ

SUMMATION: There are fools and suckers born everyday
 
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"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon." -- Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria 1873.
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Well, in the long list posted above the only one that is PROVEN correct is the Eric Eriksen statement above. He probably had Gunnar in mind!!!:thumbsu:

No guts, no heart, no brains!!!!!

S. O. R. R. Y. ...V .....P.R.O.O.F! ......it's your choice Gunnar!:D
 
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Corpuscles said:
Well, in the long list posted above the only one that is PROVEN correct is the Eric Eriksen statement above. He probably had Gunnar in mind!!!:thumbsu:

No guts, no heart, no brains!!!!!

S. O. R. R. Y. ...V .....P.R.O.O.F! ......it's your choice Gunnar!:D
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and you forgot ............... no drugs at West Coast
 
Re: The Great Beat-Up: The Drug Problem at West Coast

Gunnar Longshanks said:
This whole issue of drugs in AFL, and of West Coast supposedly being the worst offenders, is a total beat-up.

Rumour and innuendo are no substitute for real evidence, but that hasn't stopped commentators from inflating this issue at every opportunity.

The Footy Show interview with West Coast chairman Dalton Gooding was presented as some kind of massive expose - maybe I missed it, but was anything actually revealed?

Gooding basically admitted their had been some discipline problems at the club, before saying the club wouldn't tolerate any more stuff-ups and that illicit drugs were unacceptable. What was the big revelation here? What else was he going to say? You'd get the same line on drugs and discipline from every chairman in the league.

This whole saga is marked as a beat-up by the complete lack of real information. I'm yet to see a shred of evidence that there is a "drug problem" in the AFL, or at West Coast or any other club.

Notice the way Hutchison kept referring to "a perception back East" that West Coast had a drug problem. That perception was emphasised because Hutchison had no actual evidence to use as a starting point for his questions. A perception - that's what's driving this beat-up.

I love the way commentators use "anecdotal evidence" to build their case. What does that phrase mean in this context? Rumour? Hearsay? In most reporting, that would not be sufficient to drive a story - but in this issue, that's considered a smoking gun.

Craig Hutchison spuriously linked Cousins getting locked up and Kerr assaulting a taxi driver with a supposed drug problem at West Coast. How does that work? Were drugs a factor in either incident?

Then there's the Fletcher incident. If anyone knows what happened in Las Vegas, then let's hear it. It's unsound to just assume it was a drug overdose in the absence of any real information?

Like I said - show me the evidence. Don't just recite unsubstantiated rumours or point to incidents that had nothing to do with drugs.

Quite frankly, I couldn't care less what Ben Cousins or any other player does or doesn't ingest in a nightclub. I have no interested whatsoever in this half-baked soap opera that surrounds players' off-field activities. The public appetite for this stuff mystifies me.

I thought most people follow football because they like the spectacle and the contest. Players will be judged on what they do on-field - and rightly so. Why is there such interest in everything else?

That said, the way this story about the "drug problem" has been manufactured needs to be pointed out.

People should demand some facts instead of just lapping up innuendo that feeds their dislike of the Eagles.
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You want some evidence. How about Ben Cousins in rehab. How about recorded phone calls with Daniel Kerr. How about Fletch in Vegas. Sounds like evidence to me.
 
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Corpuscles said:
Anyway this is NOT! made up. Google now, roll up, rollup and see the mind of a looooonatic
http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Gunnar+Longshanks
Definitions by Gunnar Longshanks

4.nubilityJan 2, 2007The social class of teenage girls who win status through their blossoming...3.pedophakeJan 2, 2007When someone unwittingly lusts after a young boy/girl without knowing their age...2.splashbackJan 2, 20071. when the water from a toilet or a urinal splashes up or out and wets your...1.Hogan's GapJan 2, 2007The little square gap between the top of some girls' thighs. Most girls...
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Wow.... those dyno-fists or whatever it is they self indulgently call one another really do converse learnedly at dinner. Kudos. :thumbsu:
 
Re: The Great Beat-Up: The Drug Problem at West Coast

Gunnar Longshanks said:
This whole issue of drugs in AFL, and of West Coast supposedly being the worst offenders, is a total beat-up.

Rumour and innuendo are no substitute for real evidence, but that hasn't stopped commentators from inflating this issue at every opportunity.

The Footy Show interview with West Coast chairman Dalton Gooding was presented as some kind of massive expose - maybe I missed it, but was anything actually revealed?

Gooding basically admitted their had been some discipline problems at the club, before saying the club wouldn't tolerate any more stuff-ups and that illicit drugs were unacceptable. What was the big revelation here? What else was he going to say? You'd get the same line on drugs and discipline from every chairman in the league.

This whole saga is marked as a beat-up by the complete lack of real information. I'm yet to see a shred of evidence that there is a "drug problem" in the AFL, or at West Coast or any other club.

Notice the way Hutchison kept referring to "a perception back East" that West Coast had a drug problem. That perception was emphasised because Hutchison had no actual evidence to use as a starting point for his questions. A perception - that's what's driving this beat-up.

I love the way commentators use "anecdotal evidence" to build their case. What does that phrase mean in this context? Rumour? Hearsay? In most reporting, that would not be sufficient to drive a story - but in this issue, that's considered a smoking gun.

Craig Hutchison spuriously linked Cousins getting locked up and Kerr assaulting a taxi driver with a supposed drug problem at West Coast. How does that work? Were drugs a factor in either incident?

Then there's the Fletcher incident. If anyone knows what happened in Las Vegas, then let's hear it. It's unsound to just assume it was a drug overdose in the absence of any real information?

Like I said - show me the evidence. Don't just recite unsubstantiated rumours or point to incidents that had nothing to do with drugs.

Quite frankly, I couldn't care less what Ben Cousins or any other player does or doesn't ingest in a nightclub. I have no interested whatsoever in this half-baked soap opera that surrounds players' off-field activities. The public appetite for this stuff mystifies me.

I thought most people follow football because they like the spectacle and the contest. Players will be judged on what they do on-field - and rightly so. Why is there such interest in everything else?

That said, the way this story about the "drug problem" has been manufactured needs to be pointed out.

People should demand some facts instead of just lapping up innuendo that feeds their dislike of the Eagles.
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where are you living half the side are on drugs and to say it has no advantage to the players is just ridiculous, they should be stripped of the premiership its just a disgrace !
 

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foolsball said:
where are you living half the side are on drugs and to say it has no advantage to the players is just ridiculous, they should be stripped of the premiership its just a disgrace !
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Gunnar may be in denial about the extent of our illicit drug usage but you my friend are an idiot.

Half the side on drugs - that's 20 players - are you really sure about that???

The drugs in question are not considered performance enhancing unless used on match day to which no player from any club has tested positive.

In short we have some players who have been stupid enough to use illicit drugs which has tarnished not only their own image, but that of the club and the AFL. But these actions had did not give us any on field advantage.
 
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Gunnar Longshanks said:
I don't have much interest in what they ingest. Gossip about off-field activites is something I've never had much of an appetite for.

That doesn't mean I don't have an opinion on an issue that has received such enormous coverage over the past month or so.

Pfffttt...

They don't "deserve the privilege"?

I didn't realise Judge Judy posted on BigFooty.

Won't somebody please think of the children!
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I realise now I,ve wasted my typing ability on a jerk
 
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So how's Benny doing? Haven't heard anything about him. I'm figuring he's best mates with Courtney Love, Pete Doherty and Robert Downey jr by now. Bet he'll be having a big party when he gets back.
 
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What happened to Benny? I heard he went to Tibet to live with the monks :thumbsu:

Where is he and why is he at wherever he is? :thumbsu:




I was gonna join him.................




















And then I got High. :thumbsu:
 
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