NFL The Jay Cutler Soap Opera

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Pandering to him gives off the idea that there's one set of rules for Jay Cutler and another for the rest of the team. I'm glad McD and Bowlen have stood firm on this one. You never now, he may still come crawling back in a week's time with his tail between his legs....
 

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Pandering to him gives off the idea that there's one set of rules for Jay Cutler and another for the rest of the team.

There IS one set of rules for a franchise QB and the rest of the team! QBs dont grow on trees. QBs are everything to a franchise. The way you're talking it's like a new Colts HC suddenly lies to Peyton Manning, tries to trade him on the sly for Cassel, ifs and ahhs about a contract extension, demanding Peyton to "obey" or he'll be traded, taking a hard-line stance with him, and achieving nothing but having say Peyton and another 2 players demand a release/trade, leaving the Colts with Jim Sorgi as starter and Pierre Garcon as #1 receiver.

Polian would shoot the HC before he allowed that to happen. You think you'd do that to Peyton Manning? And im talking Peyton Manning in the same stage of his career as Cutler is in now.
 
Seriously, if the Lions manage to get Cutler (or Cutler-Scheffler) from a trade and draft Jason Smith, they'll immediately have a better W-L record than Denver for the next 3-5 years and McDaniels will be fired in about 2 years.
If McDaniels loses him before the season. He would be lucky to survive the offseason.

Bring back Shanahan
 
Shanahan must be rolling around on the floor laughing his head off.

Dont think he would fire him now....he's under contract for probably 3 years, so he'd have to pay him out and where's he gonna find a HC from now? They're all under contract. He'd have to promote an interim HC or im not sure if he can offer a HC gig to a co-ordinator from another team right now. Maybe Bill Cowher might be interested.
 
There IS one set of rules for a franchise QB and the rest of the team! QBs dont grow on trees. QBs are everything to a franchise. The way you're talking it's like a new Colts HC suddenly lies to Peyton Manning, tries to trade him on the sly for Cassel, ifs and ahhs about a contract extension, demanding Peyton to "obey" or he'll be traded, taking a hard-line stance with him, and achieving nothing but having say Peyton and another 2 players demand a release/trade, leaving the Colts with Jim Sorgi as starter and Pierre Garcon as #1 receiver.

Polian would shoot the HC before he allowed that to happen. You think you'd do that to Peyton Manning? And im talking Peyton Manning in the same stage of his career as Cutler is in now.

Well, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I've been on the McD bandwagon from the get-go on this one....
 
Pandering to him gives off the idea that there's one set of rules for Jay Cutler and another for the rest of the team. I'm glad McD and Bowlen have stood firm on this one. You never now, he may still come crawling back in a week's time with his tail between his legs....

QBs ARE different to the rest of the team! They always have been.

The quarterback more than any other player is the embodyment of the team. Thats why they're always judged differently to other players. (for example, they get judged on their wins from starts in a way that a cornerback never would).

You HAVE to treat the QB better. This is why McNabb for example can be pissed off at being benched in the ravens game, whereas say, if we pulled Asante Samuels from a match up theres little harm done.

Considering the lack of real depth as far as good QBs go in the league, and some of the hacks that have started in recent years, even thinking about jerking around when youve got a young star like Cutler has been madness, and your franchise deserves this trouble for the foolishness.
 
Cutler is as good as gone...


Cutler’s Denver area house up for sale




DENVER (AP)—The Denver Broncos insist quarterback Jay Cutler isn’t on the market. His house, though, is another matter.
Cutler put his 7,516-square-foot, four-bedroom, seven-bath home in suburban Castle Pines up for sale for $2 million. A listing on real estate Web site REcolorado.com shows the agent as Fuller Sotheby’s International Realty. Douglas County property records show Cutler paid $1.34 million for the house in August 2006.
Cutler still has a condo in downtown Denver along with his offseason home in Nashville, Tenn.
The Pro Bowl quarterback and new coach Josh McDaniels are in a dispute over attempts to trade him two weeks ago.
The sale was first reported by KMGH-TV and The Denver Post.

On Saturday, Cutler was a no-show at a fundraiser at Invesco Field, and team spokesman Patrick Smyth said the quarterback didn’t attend because he didn’t want to distract from the evening. The fundraiser was in honor of Broncos longtime trainer Steve Antonopulos and raised money to fight children’s’ diseases.
His house has been up for sale for a while, so that is not an issue, just a beat-up.
 
Cutler Wants to be Traded

Cutler says he can't trust McDaniels


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Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler said Sunday night that he will not report to the team's first meeting on Monday and has formally asked to be traded. He confirmed that a Saturday meeting with first-year coach Josh McDaniels ended badly from his perspective while McDaniels offered another viewpoint on Sunday night.
"I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," Cutler said. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.
[+] EnlargeMatthew Emmons/US PresswireJay Cutler said while new Denver coach Josh McDaniels hasn't been critical of him, Cutler can no longer trust McDaniels.


"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know," Cutler added. "I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [Saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."
Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first team meeting on Monday as they begin their offseason program.
Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told the Denver Post on Sunday that he was disappointed with how Cutler has handled the situation. In a telephone interview with ESPN, McDaniels was reluctantly expansive on the story.
"I really have wanted to avoid a he-said, she-said thing but it's only fair for us to present the Bronco side of the story rather than let things get taken out of context," McDaniels said. "There's been a pattern here for the past two weeks the way things [have been represented] in our communications. I don't think anythng that happened [Saturday] was out of the ordinary. At the end of the meeting, Jay said he had thought about things quite a bit and requested a few more hours to mull things over. He said he wanted to talk to Bus on how to proceed. He was gonna call me on my cell phone and that never happened. Instead, Bus called [GM] Brian [Xanders].
"Again, I think that's been a pattern. I couldn't get [Cutler] to talk to me for two weeks or to talk to Mr. Bowlen. Then when he came here this weekend, we couldn't get a one-on-one meeting, just me and him alone. He wanted Bus in there, so I had Brian sit in, too. And it was the four of us. There wasn't any yelling, none of that. I can't believe we get to a totally different [interpretation].

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"It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that has cropped up, a potential distraction and we've done our best to limit that. The main message I want to get out is that we're excited to start our offseason program [Monday]. It's an exciting time for us."
Cutler won't be present at the team meeting.
"I certainly went back there, expecting I'd be there [Monday] but not now," Cutler said. "It's not mandatory. I'll attend every mandatory mini-camp and training camp but that's it. Really, it's best for me to move on. As coach said, he needs every eye in the meeting room to be on him and not me."
As McDaniels pointed out, Cutler had a completely different expectation when he left their private meeting on Saturday.
Cutler said: "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee' and mend things, but that didn't happen. So, I get it, really, it's a business. I'm disappointed beause I love being a Bronco but I think it's run its course."
Cutler denied recent reports that he had asked to be traded when the Broncos fired offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates.
"Yes, I was upset when they let Jeremy go because Mr. Bowlen had assured me when Mike [Shanahan] was fired that the offense wouldn't change because it was the second-ranked offense in football," Cutler said. "But I didn't push for a trade then."
McDaniels and Cutler agreed on at least one element of the controversy, knocking down a Sunday report on NFL Network that the coach had criticized the quarterback's play in 2008.
"That just isn't true," McDaniels said. "Not a word has been said about that."
Cutler added: "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."
McDaniels admitted that the team got involved in trade discussions for Cassel, who instead was dealt to the Kansas City Chiefs. However, he said any perception Cutler felt that the team could still trade him was misleading.
"That's what we have communicated ever since the deal with Cassel didn't happen," McDaniels said. "Other teams have called but we're not interested in getting draft picks for Jay. I never made a statement [Saturday] that 'you can be traded at any time.' They asked a question and I told them it was the time of year when people inquire about your team. Your job, as a head coach and general manager, is to listen and not bypass any opportunity to help your team improve. I think most people [in the NFL] feel the same way. You make smart, educated decisions that are best for your football team."
Cutler feels like McDaniels lost his credibility with him when he initially denied to the quarterback that the Broncos tried to acquire Cassel only to admit it later.
"Before this trade for Cassel thing ever came up, in the two weeks or so I had spent with McDaniels, he was basically telling me that he came to Denver because he wanted to coach me and that we needed to trust each other," Cutler said. "He's never been critical to me. But trust now? How can I trust him now?"
He also explained that his house being put up for sale was "nothing more than a coincidence."
"I had already shown my house privately to some interested buyers a couple of months ago," Cutler said. "I've really been looking to buy 40 to 70 acres of land there."
As for ignoring phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen, Cutler said: "Josh and I have exchanged text messages. We had a conference call. And if Pat wanted to speak to me, why didn't he come to the meeting on Saturday?"
Cook said that as an agent he was "totally in shock" that it has gotten so ugly.
"I would have bet my house going into Saturday's meeting that everyone would be shaking hands and smiling," Cook said. "I thought it was going to get worked out. But it was very clear to me that Jay Cutler is not their choice to be quarterback of that team."
Yet Cook admitted that when he called Xanders to request a trade on Saturday night, the team's general manager said it wasn't going to happen and that "Jay should show up Monday."
That wasn't going to happen, either.

Looks like the Firing of Shannan has blown up in the Broncos Face

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I would laugh my arse off if he ended up in Detroit.

Seems neither side wanted to sit down and work it out properly. McDaniels was too keen to stick to his guns and god knows what Cutler and his agent were doing (trying to get more cash, trying to assert their authority, just generally being pussies, and so on, there are so many options).
 

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Re: Cutler Wants to be Traded

It seems like it is Bilichecks scheming.

act like your giving cassel to the broncos to make Cutler feel unwanted

send him to Kansas City. gain more from KC than what your giving up. Screw up Cleveland's drafting because KC now wants what the Browns wanted.

Now Cutler is pissed off. And wants out.

I can see the Pats going for Cutler, looking long term. to continue the dynsty instead of it only lasting another 2-3 years.
 
Re: Cutler Wants to be Traded

Originally I thought this was all Cutler acting like a little sook. Now, it seems that McDaniels and co. have screwed themselves at QB. Sure, nobody is untradable (well, almost nobody) but you have a established franchsie QB there, why go out of your way to wreck that, this could of easily been fixed.
 
I really think Cutler HAS to leave.

The QB needs to be the undisputed authority on the field to be effective. GG gave the Peyton Manning example earlier, and just think, can you imagine him playing for a team which didnt back him in 100%?
completely agree with you.

Look at the debacle in San Francisco. They didnt back up Alex Smith and he went under.

Even The raiders are backing JaMarcus Russell because Al nows what hes doing

I would hate to see a team not back their cheif playmaker and expect anything in return. (unless it is the Saints, Bucs or Panthers)
 
3 questions..

1. Would Detroit give up a number 1 pick for cutler??

I say yes, he is better than what stafford or sanchez will ever be, best chance of detroit nabbing a genuine stud QB..

2. Would cutler play in detroit?

maybe not..he would have some good receivers to throw to at least

3. And finally, what the **** was McDaniel thinking??

anyone??
 
3 questions..

1. Would Detroit give up a number 1 pick for cutler??

I say yes, he is better than what stafford or sanchez will ever be, best chance of detroit nabbing a genuine stud QB..

Lions have two first round picks. Id keep the #1 to draft a franchise LT (smith) and trade the #20 + other picks no sweat. Win-win.

2. Would cutler play in detroit?

maybe not..he would have some good receivers to throw to at least

Why wouldnt he? He'd be the undisputed #1 and have C.Johnson to throw to. Scheffler could even be traded for as well, and Cutler would have weapons galore now.

3. And finally, what the **** was McDaniel thinking??

anyone??

Thinking he's BB, wanting to get acclaim for being a genius (taking a QB he's worked with and turning him into a star) rather than an established star.
 
3 questions..

1. Would Detroit give up a number 1 pick for cutler??

I say yes, he is better than what stafford or sanchez will ever be, best chance of detroit nabbing a genuine stud QB.. And a shit defence costing him the game when he's on the bench.

2. Would cutler play in detroit?

maybe not..he would have some good receivers to throw to at least

3. And finally, what the **** was McDaniel thinking??

anyone??
#1 pick overall. Maybe not with Jason Smith there. #20 and a 1st rd pick next year. I wouldnt be suprised.

Would he play in Detroit. What is different than now. I below average OLine. A slightly better RB. And Calvon Johnson. Why wouldnt he. They surely have the money to fit him in the salary cap.

who knows. McDaniels has already proven to be a bigger failure than Lane Kiffin @ Tennessee,
 

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