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not 'everyone' wants lower taxes. many would be content to pay higher taxes subject to getting improved health care, social welfare, aged care et al services. the continued call for lower taxes particularly from businesses and individuals who are rolling in wealth is nauseating.,Everyone wants lower taxes, but it's the current Federal Government who chose not to continue the lower and middle income tax offset. I'm not surprised the BCA is saying they want lower taxes on businesses, nothing has come of it (or is likely to), and your post is misleading at best.
Yes but the PWC scandal shows they have used unfair means to reduce their taxes.
Do you think "legal" always equals "fair"?
not 'everyone' wants lower taxes. many would be content to pay higher taxes subject to getting improved health care, social welfare, aged care et al services. the continued call for lower taxes particularly from businesses and individuals who are rolling in wealth is nauseating.,
So it's some sort of biological determinism at play?
But the term "human nature" is exactly that.
Qookerism is the modern face of the australian conservative movement
Money isn't a naturally occurring substance.Human nature means things that humans naturally do.
This seems like an overreaction.Your language was deliberately inflammatory and you know that.
I have no further desire to engage with your obvious baiting.
Money isn't a naturally occurring substance.
Other people have talked about being happy to pay taxes for universal support systems.
This seems like an overreaction.
What do you think biological determinism is associated with? I simply meant that it was a weak and unsupportable way to look at the system of taxation.
who knows if true, but someone posted in that thread one of the films funders has been arrested for child kidnappingTrump said he saw it and that his favourite part was the beginning and the middle and especially the result.
wtf does 'Qanon Adjacent' mean?
What do you know?OK. Check it out then.
Hang on... how do you know?
the point was not higher taxes for "stuff all". it was for better health care, aged care, social welfare, eduction et al.No, I don't. Petition Albo to change the laws. I've long advocated for tax reform - Chalmers has spent the last few days ruling reforms out.
So higher taxes in return for stuff. Allow me to clarify - people want more money in their pockets. It's human nature. It is the job of government to say no to people like those "rolling in wealth". It's a skill governments have seem to have lost.
Whenever one of these clever tweets like "xxx Pty Ltd had $1.4b in revenue this year and paid $0.36c in tax" comes out, it always leaves out two important details:
1. Revenue and taxable income are different things
2. HOW they paid that little in tax, nearly always through legal means
Most tax deductions are for behaviours that at one stage or another, governments have felt fit to encourage through tax law. So lets hear what deductions are being used, and why they shouldn't be allowed, before we rage about "fair" taxation.
the point was not higher taxes for "stuff all". it was for better health care, aged care, social welfare, eduction et al.
my doctor's son lives in sweden where these matters are prioritised. he's not a lefty, yet speaks highly of the fairness and equity of the system.
despite the rightist nonsense, we aren't a heavily taxed country by world standards. and i find it intriguing how many reactionaries pay little or no tax yet scream like 30 y. o diffs when an ambulance doesn't arrive in time, or they have to wait in emergency in a public hospital. or the standard of aged cars etc.
what's the saying, back any horse in a race named self interest cos you know it'll be going flat out.
it’s the liberal way. protect the well-to-do and whack the poor.
Nope. I genuinely want higher taxes.Everyone wants lower taxes
Nope. I genuinely want higher taxes.
No, because although right wingers keep running it down, government is a brilliant system. I want my government to provide the things that government does so well, and I'm happy for them to take a bit of my money to do it.Fund non-government provision of essential services then. Same result. Do with your own money that which you wish to do.
your original post was everyone wants lower taxes. my point is, and has been, that's just plain wrong. many would be content to pay higher taxes for better social and other services.None of what you have said contradicts in any way what I said. All I said was people want to keep more of their own money. It doesn't mean at all costs, it doesn't necessarily mean it's priority 1, 2 & 3 for everyone. Very few people would knock back a tax cut if everything else the government did improved.
And I've been saying for a while the way to increase revenue for governments to fund essential services is to firstly simplify our tax laws.
But I don't care for the emotional language used in much of this debate.