The Liberal Party - How long? - Part 2

[Not Important]

Peter Reith was a filthy piece of s**t in keeping with the Liberal Party which Howard created in his own image which persist to this day.

The disgraceful architect of the "children overboard" scandal and the person who used Dubai trained, balaclava wearing thugs to attack maritime workers and their children and wives with the use of vicious alsatians.

The is the born-to-rule pig who used his ministerial phone card as just another source of funds for his decrepit, self serving family like some kind of mafioso. This piece of s**t reckoned he was "born to plot".

Good riddance to the scum.

union bashing, porky-pie telling thug..

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

So what is the alternative?

We have a 2PP system . What is going to replace the LNP?

Or if it gets belted in the polls does it just move back closer to the centre and re attract its lost voters ?

The 2PP system is not going to last forever. It is already collapsing.

Australia will inevitably move to a European model of multiple minor parties forming coalitions. Julia Gillard was the first taste - this will become the norm.

Just to be a bit of a stickler, I think it’s confusing the issue to say we have a 2PP “system”.

Not disagreeing with the points of either of you, but let’s get the terminology straight. The Two Party Preferred vote is simply a way of expressing the outcome of an election or poll, and critically, usually makes no provision for smaller parties or independents. I think it’s more accurate to say that politics in Australia is dominated by two major groupings, Labor and the Coalition.
(And that, as you are saying, that is rapidly changing- for the better, IMHO).

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

union bashing, porky-pie telling thug..

The press coverage of his death in the non-deranged media certainly seems muted.

Not even on the home page of the SMH, as far as I can see.

 

[Gough]

Dutton Calls On Australians To Throw Their Kids Overboard In Honour Of Peter Reith

The Opposition leader the Dark Lord Peter Dutton has called upon Australians to pay tribute to the late Defence Minister Peter Reith’s legacy by throwing their children overboard. ”Pete…

theunaustralian.net

 

[Pie eyed]

Good riddance to Reith.
Doesn't deserve further comment.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

Conservatives I know who live in his former seat thought he was a campaigner from personal interactions and they love pretty much every Liberal.

 

[Cap]

The 2PP system is not going to last forever. It is already collapsing.

Australia will inevitably move to a European model of multiple minor parties forming coalitions. Julia Gillard was the first taste - this will become the norm.

Are we seeing any 'normal' junior parties though?

I'm in SA, I don't see a lot of options

 

[QuietB]

Are we seeing any 'normal' junior parties though?

I'm in SA, I don't see a lot of options

Teals are going to gain momentum. Then it is a question of how they organise themselves.

Small l Liberals and the conservative will split eventually - does that equal two parties? And does that mean the coalition agreement is dead?

Who knows were it goes. But party membership is declining for the big two and their primary vote is plummeting.

And frankly the independents are consistently the best performers.

 

[CakeEater]

Libs to change their name to Christian Democrats to reflect their base

 

[QuietB]

Libs to change their name to Christian Democrats to reflect their base

Less than zero chance they use the word “democrats”

 

[CakeEater]

Less than zero chance they use the word “democrats”

Aah the Christian Clan then

 

[Pie eyed]

Less than zero chance they use the word “democrats”

Christian Sociopaths.

 

[Home Alone]

Libs to change their name to Christian Democrats to reflect their base

Libs to change their name to Family First to reflect the greater representation of the membership.

Though older members would campaign for GOP.

 

[Not Important]

hypocrite hume.

 

[QuietB]

hypocrite hume.

Where is whiteboard? She was conspicuously absent from last weeks stunt. Has she hit the speaking circuit as well?

 

[Not Important]

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I’ve said a few times… they are (relatively) not long for this world.

Howard turned right and it will eventually be the death of them.

They appeal to nobody except grandparents.

At state level they’ve been all but killed in WA and likely Victoria. Once NSW and Qld catch up, goodnight.

 

[QuietB]

These clowns are completely clueless - they have no hope

All the single ladies

Apparently, the solution to the Liberal Party’s “women problem” is to educate fewer of them

www.themonthly.com.au

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

These clowns are completely clueless - they have no hope

All the single ladies

Apparently, the solution to the Liberal Party’s “women problem” is to educate fewer of them

www.themonthly.com.au

Just astonishing, that Nick Cater article. Shades of the Taliban.

 

[QuietB]

Just astonishing, that Nick Cater article. Shades of the Taliban.

Slurping up Fox News and regurgitating it here is a bold (and lazy as ****) strategy.

If they were serious they would start at the start, ie. discover some gold tablets, start a mormon movement, buy all the short sleeve white shirts, etc.

 

[pastmyprimus]

That's commander Cater of Gilead

 

[Sun Ra]

This is a good one.

 

[Sun Ra]

 

[Forward Press]

Seeing some of the extremes on both sides in the Senate makes me think we need a better system to choose Senators.

That Hume, Cash, Hunter, Thorpe and co can sprout such manure is rubbish. Feel like the way senators are just gifted positions based on their position in the party ain’t representative of our parliamentary system.

To be elected you should need to put your name on the ballot sheet.

Their names are on the ballot sheet - a voter always has the choice to put them dead last if they want and put one of their party colleagues first. There have been successful below the line campaigns eg Tasmania 2016 with Lisa Singh successfully winning from 5th spot on the ticket, albeit really only possible with the double dissolution election and fewer voters in Tasmania.

Not sure what else you can do to improve the system other than working on reducing voter apathy, or straight out abolishing above the line voting.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

This is a good one.

That is gold!!