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Labor keep on blocking most of the Liberals saving measures in the senate.
Tell us all of the proposed savings measures that the ALP have "blocked" that has resulted in the Coalition announcing record budget deficits and the announced $1 trillion in net government debt?

Also, tell us why the Reserve Bank has recently announced it is undertaking quantitive easing; i.e. they are printing money to fund the purchase of government bonds?
 
Tell us all of the proposed savings measures that the ALP have "blocked" that has resulted in the Coalition announcing record budget deficits and the announced $1 trillion in net government debt?

Also, tell us why the Reserve Bank has recently announced it is undertaking quantitive easing; i.e. they are printing money to fund the purchase of government bonds?

You can start with the 2014 budget. GP co payments, cuts to higher education and cuts to welfare.

For the past 12 months we have had much of our economy shut-down.

Nothing can change the simple fact that the Liberals are the party of choice for small business the backbone of our economy and that Labor will always spend more on welfare,health and education our largest areas of expenditure.
 
Guys if we want to get back to the glory days of the Howard government we must have new industrial relations policies that work for small business.

Get rid of these dinosaur EBA agreements and replace them with individual contracts. Keep the no disadvantage test.

Workchoices was not great policy for small business.

You can start with the 2014 budget. GP co payments, cuts to higher education and cuts to welfare.

For the past 12 months we have had much of our economy shut-down.

Nothing can change the simple fact that the Liberals are the party of choice for small business the backbone of our economy and that Labor will always spend more on welfare,health and education our largest areas of expenditure.

The Liberals were so committed to the GP co-payment that when it was first reported in the media the Liberals claimed it wasn't their policy and those cuts were lazy political driven by no economic or budget basis.

There is more to the budget than the size of the debt or surplus.
 
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WorkChoices was a turd burger overwhelmingly rejected by the electorate. Deal with it.

Fascinating to see what talking point you get sent here tomorrow with to try and push.

I think removing the no disadvantage test was wrong and the Liberals including Howard acknowledge that.

Unfortunately our current system is outdated.
 
Guys if we want to get back to the glory days of the Howard government we must have new industrial relations policies that work for small business.

Get rid of these dinosaur EBA agreements and replace them with individual contracts. Keep the no disadvantage test.
The Libs have made the IR process especially on Enterprise Agreements more complex recently. Which makes the IR process for small businesses harder.

As an example- The IR omnibus bill ( drafted by the Libs) which touted award modernisation processes only impacted miniscule amounts of Awards ( 13 of them), not all of them.

In certain sectors small business owners had competing awards to intepret with different terms and conditions therefore making their life harder.

I believe you are passionate in your beliefs but as evidenced above, the Liberals are grossly inadequate at implementing your wishes.
 
You can start with the 2014 budget. GP co payments, cuts to higher education and cuts to welfare.

For the past 12 months we have had much of our economy shut-down.

Nothing can change the simple fact that the Liberals are the party of choice for small business the backbone of our economy and that Labor will always spend more on welfare,health and education our largest areas of expenditure.

You can start with the 2014 budget. GP co payments, cuts to higher education and cuts to welfare.

The above has almost nothing to do with the Coalition government increasing net debt from $174.6 billion in September 2013 to announcing it will be over a trillion dollars in a few years time.

Do better next time.

For the past 12 months we have had much of our economy shut-down.

The Coalition had doubled net debt in 6-years even before the COVID19 shutdown occurred.



In December last year, after six years of Coalition government, Australia's net debt position had more than doubled and was estimated to be peaking at $392.3 billion in 2019-20, before slowly reducing in size.

But this week's Budget shows that figure will explode in coming years.

Treasury is forecasting Australia's net debt position will be $703.2 billion for 2020-21 (meaning a net debt-to-GDP ratio of 36.1 per cent).

And that debt will increase to $966.2 billion in 2023-24 (to a net debt-to-GDP ratio of 43.8 per cent).

Debt, debt and more debt

Having come into government warning of a debt and deficit disaster, persistent budget deficits and now the coronavirus recession are set to push Australia to its highest public debt since the Second World War.
Read more


Alongside that rapid accumulation in debt is the rapid growth in the value of Commonwealth Government bonds on issue.

According to Treasury, at the start of July this year, the face value of total Australian Government bonds on issue was $684.3 billion (equivalent to 34.5 per cent of GDP).

That's forecast to grow to $872 billion in 2020-21 (44.8 per cent of GDP).

Then it will hit $1 trillion in 2021-22 (50.5 per cent of GDP).

Nothing can change the simple fact that the Liberals are the party of choice for small business the backbone of our economy and that Labor will always spend more on welfare,health and education our largest areas of expenditure.

Yeh it can.

Its the average Australians including small businesses who will end up paying for the incompetence and over $1 trillion in net debt.
 
The libs spend way more on private contractors than we ever did when we had a proper public service.
Now they just hide the spending as commercial in confidence contracts to their mates and it doesn't show up on the books.
And nothing that is ever privatised ends up being cheaper or more efficient than running it in house.
It just means their mates get the money which is the whole point.
 
The Libs have made the IR process especially on Enterprise Agreements more complex recently. Which makes the IR process for small businesses harder.

As an example- The IR omnibus bill ( drafted by the Libs) which touted award modernisation processes only impacted miniscule amounts of Awards ( 13 of them), not all of them.

In certain sectors small business owners had competing awards to intepret with different terms and conditions therefore making their life harder.

I believe you are passionate in your beliefs but as evidenced above, the Liberals are grossly inadequate at implementing your wishes.

Would Labor have supported fair works decision to cut back penalty rates ?
 
The above has almost nothing to do with the Coalition government increasing net debt from $174.6 billion in September 2013 to announcing it will be over a trillion dollars in a few years time.

Do better next time.



The Coalition had doubled net debt in 6-years even before the COVID19 shutdown occurred.







Yeh it can.

Its the average Australians including small businesses who will end up paying for the incompetence and over $1 trillion in net debt.

This is Labors debt. They are the arsonists who set the fire and they are the ones sabotaging all efforts to put it out.

Labor is just addicted to spending.
 
The libs spend way more on private contractors than we ever did when we had a proper public service.
Now they just hide the spending as commercial in confidence contracts to their mates and it doesn't show up on the books.
And nothing that is ever privatised ends up being cheaper or more efficient than running it in house.
It just means their mates get the money which is the whole point.

That's just totally wrong. The public sector has the benefit of a guaranteed income which they inevitably bludge off. The private sector has to compete and competition always makes organisations work much harder.
 
Would Labor have supported fair works decision to cut back penalty rates ?
Why stop there , why not shut down the Hospitals , the police stations , the aged care etc on Xmas day ,Easter etc , would save a fortune on penalty rates. I would have preferred to spend Xmas with my kids instead of cooking breakfast for 90 Age care residents on Xmas day. And while you are at it why not tell every one about how the Liberal controlled Senate voted against the supply of money to the Whitlam Govt . Tell both sides or be labelled a fraud
 
This is Labors debt. They are the arsonists who set the fire and they are the ones sabotaging all efforts to put it out.

Labor is just addicted to spending.
No this is the Coalitions debt.

Labor is just addicted to spending.

The ******* Coalition is in power and has been for 7-years and is responsible for the announced record budget deficits and announced record net debt of over a trillion dollars.

#Coalitionfailure
#takesomeresponsibility
#facts
 
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That's just totally wrong. The public sector has the benefit of a guaranteed income which they inevitably bludge off. The private sector has to compete and competition always makes organisations work much harder.
Bull shit .
Go on . tell everyone what the Whitlam govt spent the money on . like free university education , or Medibank (now known as Medicare ) . The Private sector runs the Jobs Network , which most small business want nothing to do with .
Why ?
 
Whitlam was in charge during an inflation crisis were income tax increased by over 30%.

It's true debt has increased under the Liberals but most people understand that its Labor who block most of saving measures in the senate.

For simple ideological reasons we can always say with certainty no matter how much the Liberals spend Labor would have spent more.
Define “savings”.
 
Whitlam was in charge during an inflation crisis were income tax increased by over 30%.

It's true debt has increased under the Liberals but most people understand that its Labor who block most of saving measures in the senate.

For simple ideological reasons we can always say with certainty no matter how much the Liberals spend Labor would have spent more.

Absolute nonsense, just your opinion stop with trying to pass your opinion off as fact.

You are embarrassing yourself. There are plenty of coalition supporters here that I respect because they have their own words. You straight up regurgitate all of your parties talking points which effectively makes your opinion worthless. By the way, I would say the exact thing for a Labor equivalent of you.

Those measures have largely been blocked in the senate because they were not taken to an election and in some cases not only were they not taken to an election but there were even promises that they wouldn’t cut from certain areas but they did anyway. It’s not ok for our politicians to tell us one thing and then try and do something else.

Finally LNP have been in power now for nearly 8 years, is about time your mob took responsibility for the mess they’ve created of our economy.

Why are you ok with LNP obstructing democracy in question time?

Why are you ok with an $185m political stunt reopening and then closing Christmas Island?

Why are you ok with them paying $30m for land from one of their mates worth $3m?

Why are you ok with the $80m water rights deal that went off shore to the Caymen Islands to a company that Angus Taylor used to run (yeah, nothing to see here) or the fact they are now trying to buck pass a similar thing right now to a government employee?

Why are you ok with pre-prepared questions and answers for the media that are reported 36 minutes before they are asked / answered (word for word)? Don’t you think this kind of media control is a threat to our democracy?

I can go on. It’s staggering the amount of bullshit that has gone on during the past few coalition governments and their refusal to be accountable for anything. It’s telling that your best defence seems to be that Labor would be worse, somehow I seriously doubt that.
 
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Yes not a great written article and doesn't offer any explanation for its findings.

The 3 largest areas of government expenditure are welfare, health and education. Its unusual for the Liberals to spend more in these areas than Labor.
Labor may well be the biggest spenders (perhaps because they care about the entire community) but unfortunately for society no one can match the Libs capacity to simply just give money to their supporters.
 
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Labor may well be the biggest spenders (perhaps because they care about the entire community) but unfortunately for society no one can match the Libs capacity to simply just give money to their supporters.
Yes at least we actually got something positive out of Labor’s “wreck less spending” liberals have taken the meaning of what national debt is to a d tire new level and we’ve got absolutely nothing out of it to bring the country forward.
We might get a acceptable internet plan in 20 years from now if we’re lucky rather then the rubbish nbn they’ve given us that’s about 20 years behind current technology
 
For simple ideological reasons we can always say with certainty no matter how much the Liberals spend Labor would have spent more.
So now we don’t need evidence, just a guess based on our ideological beliefs?
 
This is Labors debt. They are the arsonists who set the fire and they are the ones sabotaging all efforts to put it out.

Labor is just addicted to spending.
When were they last in power??
 
This is Labors debt. They are the arsonists who set the fire and they are the ones sabotaging all efforts to put it out.

Labor is just addicted to spending.

You are an ignorant fool
  • Robodebt - $1.4B + plus what ever it cost to set up and run. All wasted
  • Palladin security - $1.4B and counting
  • Stop the Boats - $9.6B and counting
  • Great Barrier Reef Fund - $443M and no one has any idea what it is
  • Angus Taylor Water Rights - $80M
  • Airport Land - $30M
  • Foxtel Pay For Comment - $40M and counting
  • Sportrorts Bribes - $100M
  • 2018 Tax Cut Bribes - $144B
  • 2020 Tax Cut Bribes - $170B
  • Morrison PR Advertising Spending - $128M
And on and on and on and on. just the above is about $340B and there is nothing to show for it.

The Liberals have quadrupled - QUADRUPLED - government debt and I do not have one clue what we have to show for it.
 
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That's just totally wrong. The public sector has the benefit of a guaranteed income which they inevitably bludge off. The private sector has to compete and competition always makes organisations work much harder.

When it comes to government contracts, the private sector does benefit from a guaranteed income.
 
You are an ignorant fool
  • Robodebt - $1.4B + plus what ever it cost to set up and run. All wasted
  • Palladin security - $1.4B and counting
  • Stop the Boats - $9.6B and counting
  • Great Barrier Reef Fund - $443M and no one has any idea what it is
  • Angus Taylor Water Rights - $80M
  • Airport Land - $30M
  • Foxtel Pay For Comment - $40M and counting
  • Sportrorts Bribes - $100M
  • 2018 Tax Cut Bribes - $144B
  • 2020 Tax Cut Bribes - $170B
  • Morrison PR Advertising Spending - $128M
And on and on and on and on. just the above is about $340B and there is nothing to show for it.

The Liberals have quadrupled - QUADRUPLED - government debt and I do not have one clue what we have to show for it.

You could add the $185m for the photo op at Christmas Island.
 
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