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[bomberclifford]

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Coincidentally, this is also what it looks like when Gerard Whateley writes his name with a selection of Crayola inserted in his rectum.

 

[KenGaveUsWhatHeDeserved]

I will add something about the CEO which is important to the conversation and negativity antipathy towards Port

Q. What kind of passionate Port person accepts five years of failure?

Q. What kind of passionate Port person trashes a club tradition on the whim of an incompetent head coach?

Q. What kind of passionate Port person allows another club to tell us when we can and can't wear our guernsey?

Q. What kind of passionate Port person refuses to rectify mistakes that can set the club back another decade?

Keith hasn't corrected the largest mistake under his watch. A mistake that supporters are begging to be fixed. Instead of doing what the very fabric of the club demands he do, he tells us that we need to accept the status quo.



Moving to Adelaide Oval was like being handed the goose that laid the golden egg. Massive crowds, shiny new stadium and optimism, NTUA. Since then they have made poor decision after poor decision, Kenny Deckchair, not forcing Ryder and Monfries to take a deal, missed major sponsor. Hinkley's contract extension, extending Voss, not retaining Wingard, co-captains.

 

[KenGaveUsWhatHeDeserved]

The only 5 coaches who have been in the seat longer than Hinkley are Clarkson, Hardwick, Longmire, Scott and Buckley - 4 premiership coaches and 1 who made the GF last year and is top 4 again this year.

But old mate has got us to the lofty heights of 10th in 3 of the last 4 years, so there's that.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Our leading goal kicker in 2019 was a 1st year small forward with 29 goals.

It was the equal 2nd lowest total of goals to win the award since 1952.

Since 2014, our leading goal kicker award has been won by small forward 4 times out of 5.

#thehinkleyeffect #sackhinkley

That last sentence...

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[tribey]

Update heading into 2020.

01. Richmond: 2017/19
02. West Coast: 2018
03. W. Bulldogs: 2016
04. Hawthorn: 2015
05. GWS: 2019
06. Collingwood: 2018
07. Adelaide: 2017
08. Sydney: 2016
09. Fremantle: 2015
10. Geelong: 2019 (lost PF)
11. Melbourne: 2018 (lost PF)
12. Nth. Melbourne: 2015 (lost PF)
13. Brisbane: 2019 (lost SF)
14. Port Adelaide: 2017 (lost EF)
15. Essendon: 2019 (lost EF)
16. St. Kilda: 2016
17. Carlton: 2016
18. Gold Coast: 2016

So, over the span of half a decade our seasonal high-water mark only surpasses post-WADA Essendon, the destitute Saints, the perennial basketcase Blues and the Washington Generals.

 

[tribey]

06/10/1996 GF: Port d. Centrals
07/09/2002 SF: Port d. Essendon

• Drought: 2,162 days

22/09/2007 PF: Port d. North Melb
07/09/2013 EF: Port d. Collingwood

• Drought: 2,177 days

13/09/2014 SF: Port Adelaide d. Freo
03/09/2020 ?F: ∞

• Drought: 2,182* days

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Update heading into 2020.

01. Richmond: 2017/19
02. West Coast: 2018
03. W. Bulldogs: 2016
04. Hawthorn: 2015
05. GWS: 2019
06. Collingwood: 2018
07. Adelaide: 2017
08. Sydney: 2016
09. Fremantle: 2015
10. Geelong: 2019 (lost PF)
11. Melbourne: 2018 (lost PF)
12. Nth. Melbourne: 2015 (lost PF)
13. Brisbane: 2019 (lost SF)
14. Port Adelaide: 2017 (lost EF)
15. Essendon: 2019 (lost EF)
16. St. Kilda: 2016
17. Carlton: 2016
18. Gold Coast: 2016

So, over the span of half a decade our seasonal high-water mark only surpasses post-WADA Essendon, the destitute Saints, the perennial basketcase Blues and the Washington Generals.

Well that's one list we aren't 9th or 10th. Club probably proud of not falling into that category again.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

06/10/1996 GF: Port d. Centrals
07/09/2002 SF: Port d. Essendon

• Drought: 2,162 days

22/09/2007 PF: Port d. North Melb
07/09/2013 EF: Port d. Collingwood

• Drought: 2,177 days

13/09/2014 SF: Port Adelaide d. Freo
03/09/2020 ?F: ∞

• Drought: 2,182* days

The climate change droughts.

 

[tribey]

The climate change droughts.

Drought 1: Had to transition from the SANFL to the AFL by building a list from scratch. In light of the subsequent zonal concessions afforded Brisbane and West Coast, and the second-year concessions afforded Adelaide, they were the worst entry concessions presented to any expansion side.

Drought 2: Had to overcome years of chronic underfunding as a result of a financial position that was leading to the possibility, albeit remote, that the club would be stripped of its license, as well as the psychological damage inflicted by a record Grand Final defeat.

Drought 3: Chad Wingard likes video games?

 

[GremioPower]

One can look the Hinkley Era from any perspective. The conclusion is always the same. It is an era of "positive mediocrity": almost never bad; a few times good; most time average.

Out of curiosity, attached is our seasons since 2013 divided by thirds (games 1-7, 8-15, 16-22).

 

[Del165198]

One can look the Hinkley Era from any perspective. The conclusion is always the same. It is an era of "positive mediocrity": almost never bad; a few times good; most time average.

Out of curiosity, attached is our seasons since 2013 divided by thirds (games 1-7, 8-15, 16-22).

Which games have you been watching?

 

[Del165198]

Update heading into 2020.

01. Richmond: 2017/19
02. West Coast: 2018
03. W. Bulldogs: 2016
04. Hawthorn: 2015
05. GWS: 2019
06. Collingwood: 2018
07. Adelaide: 2017
08. Sydney: 2016
09. Fremantle: 2015
10. Geelong: 2019 (lost PF)
11. Melbourne: 2018 (lost PF)
12. Nth. Melbourne: 2015 (lost PF)
13. Brisbane: 2019 (lost SF)
14. Port Adelaide: 2017 (lost EF)
15. Essendon: 2019 (lost EF)
16. St. Kilda: 2016
17. Carlton: 2016
18. Gold Coast: 2016

So, over the span of half a decade our seasonal high-water mark only surpasses post-WADA Essendon, the destitute Saints, the perennial basketcase Blues and the Washington Generals.

BbbUt wHaT aBoUt 2o14??

The Lego movie had just come out and was doing big numbers. Shake it off was being played constantly. Tony Abbott was prime minister. And Port Adelaide were exciting. What a time to be alive

 

[GremioPower]

Which games have you been watching?

I didn't say we weren't bad. We have been mostly "meh," with more good games than bad ones in-between - even though there could be more "really bad" than "really good."

Still, I am talking about the overall result.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The climate change droughts.

This isn't the time to talk about climate change. Our thoughts and prayers are with those unfortunate clubs.

 

[Ilias M]

These stats are astounding how more supporters don’t know!!!

 

[Coobk001]

These stats are astounding how more supporters don’t know!!!

#sackhinkley

 

[Sleezy]

Please everyone keep an eye on how many talls we have in the side in round 1, and compare to round 3.

My bet is 8 in round 1, with Marshall and Georgiades dropped for Sutcliffe & McKenzie by Rnd 3.

 

[Powerade 08]

28% career win rate against top 8 teams is damning enough, but can someone link that recent article which had our win/loss record against the top 4?

Again this year we look miles off the top teams.

 

[Coobk001]

Need to do some work and calculate all the goalless quarters for the year and add that here as well.

 

[GremioPower]

I have made some research on our record under Hinkley. I have broken down the seasons in parts, patches of 3 and 6 games. I went just to 18 because this season only has 17 minor-round matches. We usually start strong. The issue is later on. From match #7 to match #18, we have played roughly 50% football since 2013.

3 games
1-3: 18-6 (75%)
4-6: 15-9 (62.5%)
7-9: 11-13 (45.8%)
10-12: 14-10 (58.3%)
13-15: 11-10 (52.4%)
16-18: 11-10 (52.4%)

6 games
1-6: 33-15 (68.75%)
7-12: 25-23 (52.1%)
13-18: 22-20 (52.4%)

I don't have the record for our last 4 games of the season. I believe RussellEbertHandball has it, though.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I have made some research on our record under Hinkley. I have broken down the seasons in parts, patches of 3 and 6 games. I went just to 18 because this season only has 17 minor-round matches. We usually start strong. The issue is later on. From match #7 to match #18, we have played roughly 50% football since 2013.

3 games
1-3: 18-6 (75%)
4-6: 15-9 (62.5%)
7-9: 11-13 (45.8%)
10-12: 14-10 (58.3%)
13-15: 11-10 (52.4%)
16-18: 11-10 (52.4%)

6 games
1-6: 33-15 (68.75%)
7-12: 25-23 (52.1%)
13-18: 22-20 (52.4%)

I don't have the record for our last 4 games of the season. I believe RussellEbertHandball has it, though.

This post

Opinion - 4 seasons in a season

I have been meaning to write this thread for about 4 or 5 years but never got around to it. To me there are 4 distinct parts to a footy season that year in year out footy fans and commentators, even the ones who have played the game at AFL level, seem to forget and project forward the good and...

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[GremioPower]

This post

Opinion - 4 seasons in a season

I have been meaning to write this thread for about 4 or 5 years but never got around to it. To me there are 4 distinct parts to a footy season that year in year out footy fans and commentators, even the ones who have played the game at AFL level, seem to forget and project forward the good and...

www.bigfooty.com

14-14 (50%), as expected...


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P.S.: From #7 to #22, our record under Hinkley is 61-57 (51.7%).
For the first 6 games, as it is shown above, our record is 33-15 (68.75%).
The difference is mindblowing.

 

[Del165198]

Most games coached without a premiership (current coaches):
1. Ken Hinkley 189 games
2. Leon Cameron 171 games
3. Brett Ratten 157 games
4. Chris Fagan 99 games
5. Simon Goodwin 99 games

Most games coached without even making a grand final (all time VFL/afl history)
1. Bill Stephen 258 games
2. Terry Wallace 247 games
3. Brad Scott 211 games
4. Ken Hinkley 189 games

 

[tribey]

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Repeating myself from the other thread, but for emphasis,

Unlikely as it may be as a combo, if Melbourne and Brisbane play off in this year’s decider, that’ll mean two-thirds of the league will have played off in the GF since Hinkley took the reins.

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[El_Scorcho]

Most games coached without a premiership (current coaches):
1. Ken Hinkley 189 games
2. Leon Cameron 171 games
3. Brett Ratten 157 games
4. Chris Fagan 99 games
5. Simon Goodwin 99 games

Most games coached without even making a grand final (all time VFL/afl history)
1. Bill Stephen 258 games
2. Terry Wallace 247 games
3. Brad Scott 211 games
4. Ken Hinkley 189 games

Bill Stephen and Terry Wallace coached at 2 clubs as well. Stephen coached Fitzroy over a few stints with Essendon in the middle, but managed 212 games coached for Fitzroy.

If we don't make the GF this year and Ken Hinkley gets to 213 games half way through next season, he'll have coached the most games ever at one club without making a grand final.