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[dirty2]

I want Hinkley gone!!!

 

[Powerade 08]

Stats:

We will win 3 flags in 5 years

Gray and Boak are 33

We are 1 win, 4 losses against the top 8 and yet to play Melbourne and Bulldogs away.

 

[Byrons Firen]

We've been 'had'.

 

[GremioPower]

There’s nothing left to say.

 

[klem22]

The stats are damning against hinkley this club is run by fraudsters

 

[Port 2004]

I want Hinkley gone!!!

Me too. Not ruthless enough nor are our senior players. Things have to change.

 

[GremioPower]

Port's Record by Season

I. v. Top-4 [W-L-D (W%)]
2013, 1-5 (16.7)
2014, 4-4 (50.0)
2015, 3-4 (42.9)
2016, 0-5 (00.0)
2017, 0-5 (00.0)
2018, 1-4 (20.0)
2019, 1-5 (16.7)
2020, 2-3 (40.0)
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TOTAL, 12-35 (25.5)
2013-2015, 8-13 (38.1)
Since 2016, 4-22 (15.4)

II. v. 5th-8th [W-L-D (W%)]
2013, 2-3 (40.0)
2014, 0-3 (00.0)
2015, 4-2 (66.7)
2016, 1-4 (20.0)
2017, 2-2-1 (50.0)
2018, 2-2 (50.0)
2019, 2-2 (50.0)
2020, 3-1 (75.0)
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TOTAL, 16-19-1 (45.8)
2013-2015, 6-8 (42.9)
Since 2016, 10-11-1 (47.7)


III. v. Top-8 [W-L-D (W%)]
2013, 3-8 (27.4)
2014, 4-7 (36.4)
2015, 7-6 (53.8)
2016, 1-9 (10.0)
2017, 2-7-1 (25.0)
2018, 3-6 (33.3)
2019, 3-7 (30.0)
2020, 5-4 (55.6)
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TOTAL, 28-54-1 (34.3)
2013-2015, 14-21 (40.0)
Since 2016, 14-33-1 (30.2)


IV. v. Not Top-4 [W-L-D (W%)]
2013, 12-6 (66.7)
2014, 12-5 (70.6)
2015, 9-6 (60.0)
2016, 10-7 (58.8)
2017, 14-3-1 (80.6)
2018, 11-6 (64.7)
2019, 10-6 (62.5)
2020, 13-1 (92.9)
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TOTAL, 91-40-1 (69.3)
2013-2015, 33-17 (66.7)
Since 2016, 58-23-1 (71.3)


V. v. Bottom-10 [W-L-D (W%)]
2013, 10-3 (76.9)
2014, 12-2 (85.7)
2015, 5-4 (55.6)
2016, 9-3 (75.0)
2017, 12-1 (92.3)
2018, 9-4 (69.2)
2019, 8-4 (66.7)
2020, 10-0 (100)
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TOTAL, 75-21 (78.1)
2013-2015, 27-9 (75.0)
Since 2016, 48-12 (80.0)

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ANALYSIS

1. Our "can't win against Top-8 sides" is actually against Top-4 teams. For the past 8 season, we were bad against Top-4 in 5 seasons; but against 5th-8th, only in 2.

a) In 2013, 2017, 2018, and 2019 combined, we were 8-9-1 (47.2) against sides between 5th and 8th, but 3-19 (13.6) against Top-4 teams.
b) In 2016, we couldn't actually beat Top-8 sides, not only Top-4.
c) In 2014, we did well against Top-4 sides, but not against the EF teams.
d) In 2015 and 2020, we did well against all Top-8 teams – record for both seasons combined: 12-10 (54.5)

2. Under Hinkley, we were competitive against Top-8 teams in 3 seasons: 2014, 2015, and 2020. We went to the PF in two of those; in one, we managed to miss Finals altogether.

* In 2015, we missed Finals in our games against the lower sides. We went 5-4 v. Bottom-10 (2-2 v. Bottom 4).

- Take this season out, and our record against the Bottom-10 is 70-17 (80.5) and 31-2 (93.9) against the Bottom-4.​

* The oddness in 2014 was our 0-3 against EF sides, that made our record against Top-8 teams look weak.
* Our best year was definitely 2020, which was absolutely one-of-a-kind – club's 150th anniversary, shorter quarters, hubs, no attendance, etc.

3. Finally, our worst seasons were 2016, 2018 and 2019.

* In 2018 and 2019 combined, we were unbeaten against the Bottom-4 (8-0), went a bit better than 50% against teams from 5th to 14th (13-12), and struggled against Top-4 sides (2-9).
* Season 2016 was the opposite of 2015 – we dominated the Bottom-10 (9-3), but struggled against the Top-8 sides (1-9).

 

[Del165198]

Another coveted 5 wins in a row certificate! How many is that now??

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Another coveted 5 wins in a row certificate! How many is that now??

Bugger all. Maybe 3.

 

[RossFC]

 

[Del165198]

Ken is now just 9 games away from overtaking Brad Scott to become the least successful AFL coach at one club in history.

No one will have coached longer at one team without at least making a grand final.

Bill Stephen and Terry Wallace have more games without a GF but they had multiple clubs.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Rucci's Match Review: Preliminary Final

Port Adelaide's AFL campaign again ends with pain in a preliminary final. The challenge remains to keep climbing Australian football's toughest mountain

www.portadelaidefc.com.au

Port Adelaide
* gave up its biggest score of the season (116 points),
* suffered its biggest loss of the year (almost 12 goals) and
* put up its lowest score of the 24-game campaign (6.9). And
* the barometer that has defined Port Adelaide all season was battered by a hefty differential (30) in the contested-ball count (lost 136-166).

 

[raptalia]

After an item on the ABC this morning I decided to look up Port's finals record under Ken Hinkley. In that ABC interview Michelangelo Rucci made the point that Port is 5-5 in finals under Hinkley. At first I did not believe it but after looking up the records he is right.

Since 2013 we have appeared in 5 finals series played 10 matches and won 5 of them. Up until last Saturday our worst loss was by 16 points to Geelong at the MCG in 2013. We lost a Prelim to eventual Premiers Hawthorn by 3 points in 2014 and a Prelim to eventual Premiers Richmond by 6 points last year. In addition in 2017 we lost an Elimination Final to West Coast by 2 points.

Surprisingly under Hinkley we have won 59.6% of 203 games which is actually better than Clarkson (58.5%) or Hardwick's (56.2%) Coaching record.

In the past 9 seasons we have not won a Premiership but neither have Geelong a team that lost by even more than we did last Saturday. Geelon's only upper is that they have made a Grand Final and that was in a year that we defeated them in a Qualifying Final.

The problem is not that we do not win games but more that we do not win the big games but tbh we have been desperately unlucky at times. Maybe a change of Coach would bring us better luck but on the strength of the record above I can see why a numbers man like David Koch would want to stick with Ken Hinkley and as much as it pains me to say it I would be amazed if Hinkley did not at least see his current contract out.

I posted the above in the Sack Hinkley thread. Please do not take it as a defence of Hinkley.

 

[Lockhart Road]

Ken Hinkley - the Three Times Unlucky Man - personal stats …

AFL grand finals played in - three - all lost. (1992, 1994, 1995; was vice captain in 1995, fired by Ayres after GF.)

AFL Senior Coach interview panels attended - three - flunked all three; gave up after that, retired to Surfers Paradise.

PAFC Preliminary Finals coached - three - all lost (2014, 3 points; 2020, 6 points; 2021, 71 points).

Bye Bye Ken.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Oh great
Yet another record

 

[Chrizzt]

Since the start of 2017, we have had 25 quarters without scoring a goal, including 4 quarters without a score at all, and 5 quarters with only 1 behind scored.
Goalless / scoreless / one behind quarters:
Q1: 7 / 1 / 2
Q2: 6 / 1 / 1
Q3: 3 / 1 / 1
Q4: 9 / 1 / 1

In that time we've held our oppo to 35 goalless quarters including 11 scoreless quarters.

In terms of scoring shot differential per quarter, the data for X scoring shots (i.e. the opponent has had at least X more scoring shots than us in the quarter)
4 : 57 (23/14/7/13 by quarter)
6 : 26 (9/8/4/5)
8: 9 (4/3/0/2)
10 (****ing 10!): 2 (1/0/0/1)

The -10 scoring shot differential quarters were:
R4 2017 v GWS: we were up 11.14 to 11.10 at 3QT only to score 0.1 to 5.6 in the last to go down by 31 points.
r7 2019 v Collingwood: 0.3 to 7.6 at QT - game done and dusted, we get back in the contest but only slightly claw back the margin to 39 points at final siren.

 

[tribey]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

 

[klem22]

You dont need any stats to profile hinkley, the total unpreparedness of this club coming into the preliminary final was totally unforgivable it is not just the loss it is the fact we were smashed in the first five minutes. I knew the game was over right there and then.
What an act of sheer bastardry to be paid the embarrassing amount he is paid and to arrive with absolutely nothing to give.
While supporters dig deep into their pockets to furnish these pricks with a level of security average people can only dream about.
Once again koch&hinkley thankyou very much for the rabbits you pricks.

 

[Chrizzt]

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I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

I feel it's also pertinent to point out that since 2013 our CEO has changed, all assistant coaches have rotated (at least once), and the only players in our current best 22 from the 2013 final series are Boak, Wines, Gray, and Jonas.

So looking at constants, it's either the players with 8 AA's between them or the senior coach.

 

[philreich]

He's clearly staying on as senior coach until he gets it right......

 

[finbarr]

Which means we are ****ed. He ain't ever getting it right.

 

[Us against the rest]

He's clearly staying on as senior coach until he gets it right......

 

[tribey]

You dont need any stats to profile hinkley,

These are still illuminating, albeit selective:

Ken Hinkley’s selective H2H record

Alan Richardson 6-0
Brad Scott 5-1
Paul Roos 4-1
Stuart Dew 4-0
Brendon Bolton 3-1
Justin Leppitsch 3-1
Brenton Sanderson 3-1
Rodney Eade 3-0
Guy McKenna 3-0
Matthew Nicks 3-0
David Teague 3-0
Brett Ratten 2-1
Justin Longmuir 2-0
Kevin Sheedy 2-0
Robert Harvey 1-0
Mark Neeld 1-0
David Noble 1-0
Ben Rutten 1-0
Dean Solomon 1-0
David Hale 1-0
Phil Walsh 1-0
Scott Watters 1-0
Michael Voss 1-0

Which amounts to a 55-6 record against a bunch of caretakers (Hale, Solomon, Harvey, et al), spuds (choose your favourite), or experienced coaches in charge of crap and inferior teams (Sheeds, Roos).

Deducting these games from his overall ledger — 121-81 (59.9%) — leaves us with a record of 66-76 (46.4%) which feels far closer to the reality of the situation.

 

[afl2004]

What's hinkleys record against top 4 ??

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Has anyone mentioned that because of the last few Hinkley years, our AFL record now has the ladder position we've most filled in our AFL journey as..... 1st.

25 seasons. 10% of the time we are in 1st place.

And then come finals.
For 1 premiership.