The MCG should always host the Grand Final post pandemic.

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Tzatziki_Man said:
In the last 15 seasons of AFL Football 12 premierships have been won by Victorian sides whilst a measly two (Sydney 2012, Eagles 2018) were won by Interstate rivals. Here's a recap of the victories since - which includes 3 dynasties.

Hawthorn - 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015
Richmond - 2017, 2019, 2020
Geelong - 2007, 2009, 2011
Collingwood - 2010
Western Bulldogs - 2016

Now the narrative on Big Footy for many years was simple. Supporters of interstate sides continuously moaned about the Grand Final being played at the MCG. Hawthorn's three peat victories against Fremantle, West Coast and Sydney sparked the fury - Richmond's dominate record breaking undefeated streak at the MCG made it constant dialogue.

In the 2020 season - something unpredictable happened, unprecedented- the Grand Final - the entire finals series was played outside Victoria. The Victorian sides played the majority of their season interstate, made the finals and under unbelievable living conditions, these milestone victories occurred in the finals.

- Collingwood knocked out West Coast in Perth, after being locked in quarantine Hubs for a one week and being publicity humiliated in WA newspapers. They defeated the Eagles by 1 point and knocked them out.

- Richmond defeated Port Adelaide in the Preliminary Final - in Adelaide, by 1 goal, in a dour low scoring affair - having slept in a homeless shelter the night before the game according to Dylan Grimes.

- Geelong demolished a pathetic Brisbane at the Gabba - having spent over 100 days living away from their families.

Now in season 2021, after the Bulldogs remarkable victory. Here we are again, the finals series is down to four teams, no Victorian finals, Victorian teams like Melbourne playing their well earned home final in Adelaide - were down to four - three of them?

Melbourne, Footscray and Geelong.

Can we squash the conversation that Interstate teams are disadvantaged with the current system set up? Can we stop hearing pathetic complaints about the Grand Final being moved away from the MCG in the future? The Interstate teams transitioned into the old VFL, not vice versa.

The MCG is the biggest stadium in the country, 40,000 more people can see the game live.

This thread should honestly be placed atop the BF threads board every finals series.

Interstate sides - its not the MCG that stopped your premiership chances, the best team wins no matter where or when. The GF should always be played where it belongs, at the biggest, most historical stadium in the country.
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Yet another person doesn't understand probability.

#sackken
 
sherb said:
Carlton took a few players over the years from that "pissy bush league".

Maybe you should try educating yourself rather than being ignorant.
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I'm quite well educated thanks.

It's why I know York Park wasn't even a sporting field when then first game of Australian Rules was played on the MCG in 1869.

You sound rather uneducated putting forth York Park as some kind of example of a Spiritual Home of the game to rival the MCG.

Carlton took many players from many leagues, amazing that.
 
Bostonian said:
I'm quite well educated thanks.

It's why I know York Park wasn't even a sporting field when then first game of Australian Rules was played on the MCG in 1869.

You sound rather uneducated putting forth York Park as some kind of example of a Spiritual Home of the game to rival the MCG.

Carlton took many players from many leagues, amazing that.
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How do you cope knowing the mighty Blues lowered itself to recruiting players from a pissy bush league? They even recruited one from the pissy bush league up the road on the N-W Coast. And another one before he had the chance to even lower himself to playing in one of the pissy bush leagues.

Fancy sinking that low as a club, it must do your snobbery in big time.

By the way, did you know that the current NTCA Ground in Launceston is the "home of cricket" in Australia? Because that's where the first ever first-class cricket match was played.

York Park is my spiritual home of football, it's where my love of the game started. Tough t***ies if you don't like that.

It's what many Victorians don't get, or don't want to, it's a national game, not a Victorian one and our love and appreciation of the game developed and grew external to the supposed home of football.
 

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sherb said:
How do you cope knowing the mighty Blues lowered itself to recruiting players from a pissy bush league? They even recruited one from the pissy bush league up the road on the N-W Coast. And another one before he had the chance to even lower himself to playing in one of the pissy bush leagues.

Fancy sinking that low as a club, it must do your snobbery in big time.

By the way, did you know that the current NTCA Ground in Launceston is the "home of cricket" in Australia? Because that's where the first ever first-class cricket match was played.

York Park is my spiritual home of football, it's where my love of the game started. Tough t***ies if you don't like that.

It's what many Victorians don't get, or don't want to, it's a national game, not a Victorian one and our love and appreciation of the game developed and grew external to the supposed home of football.
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I hate cricket, boring as ****. Turns football ground centres into concrete when its dry and bogs when it's wet. Shit game.

I cope fine however. I'm talking about football grounds and you're waffling on about players.

The MCG is the spiritual home of the VFL/AFL and long shall it be. None of the grounds from these lower tier competitions are even in the same conversation.

It is a Victorian game. It just so happened to be that popular it ended up in other states. You're welcome by the way.
 
Op is only using the last 2 years as the main points, which is a mistake imo as it is too small of a sample size and we are in the middle of a pandemic throwing all sorts of different challenges.
Always felt sorry for Adelaide in '17, they were the best team all season and were beating us for fun in SA on their home deck.
I think either play the game at a neutral venue or the highest ranked team's home stadium.
Or stop whinging and accept Victoria runs the show, and the MCC is juiced in. :p
 
Bostonian said:
I hate cricket, boring as fu**. Turns football ground centres into concrete when its dry and bogs when it's wet. sh*t game.

I cope fine however. I'm talking about football grounds and you're waffling on about players.

The MCG is the spiritual home of the VFL/AFL and long shall it be. None of the grounds from these lower tier competitions are even in the same conversation.

It is a Victorian game. It just so happened to be that popular it ended up in other states. You're welcome by the way.
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Did you know that the SAFA/SANFL is the oldest Aussie Rules league in the world? Older than anything from Victoria?

You're welcome by the way.
 
Bostonian said:
I hate cricket, boring as fu**. Turns football ground centres into concrete when its dry and bogs when it's wet. sh*t game.

I cope fine however. I'm talking about football grounds and you're waffling on about players.

The MCG is the spiritual home of the VFL/AFL and long shall it be. None of the grounds from these lower tier competitions are even in the same conversation.

It is a Victorian game. It just so happened to be that popular it ended up in other states. You're welcome by the way.
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The stereotypical ignorant, arrogant Victorian attitude.
 
Bostonian said:
Historically factual.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Do you have historical evidence the game we know as Australian Rules didn't originate from Victoria? If so I'd love to see it please.
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The good thing is that attitudes like yours will eventually die out.

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Bostonian said:
Historically factual.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Do you have historical evidence the game we know as Australian Rules didn't originate from Victoria? If so I'd love to see it please.
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Invented by a New South Welshman.

Oldest league in Australia is the SANFL/SAFA.

But yeah, Vic "owns" footy. FFS.
 
Bostonian said:
Where are all the oldest teams from?

That will give you a clue as to where the game started.

Do you think rugby fans would have a sook like you over someone saying Rugby School is the spiritual home of rugby?
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You keep down this track that Victoria "own" football, because of your definition of ownership, excluding everything that has gone on since. "First" = ownership and preferential treatment. I don't "own" my house because it was built 100 years ago. Does South Australia "own" freedom in Australia because they were the first free colony?

And only clubs count right, because Grand Finals are a part of competitions, not a part of clubs.

You'd be better off sticking to the "its our competition" line. Even if it wasn't the first.
 
OnlyPowerForever said:
You keep down this track that Victoria "own" football, because of your definition of ownership, excluding everything that has gone on since. "First" = ownership and preferential treatment. I don't "own" my house because it was built 100 years ago. Does South Australia "own" freedom in Australia because they were the first free colony?

And only clubs count right, because Grand Finals are a part of competitions, not a part of clubs.

You'd be better off sticking to the "its our competition" line. Even if it wasn't the first.
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I didn't say own. I said it's the home of football.

It is. The game originated in Victoria and every other state adopted it.

That's the history of football.

It's like you can't cope with history.

The MCG GF experience shits on anything else held at any other stadium in the land.
 
Bostonian said:
I didn't say own. I said it's the home of football.

It is. The game originated in Victoria and every other state adopted it.

That's the history of football.

It's like you can't cope with history.

The MCG GF experience shits on anything else held at any other stadium in the land.
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History isn't a single point in time. It's constantly being added to.
It's like Victorian's can't cope with that.

And your last comment is certainly true.... to Victorians. The actual 2-3 hours is as good as any absolutely, but gets dulled a bit when you consider the cost and time and travel to attend from interstate, as well as not being able to celebrate with your own family, friends and supporter base at your own home ground and team clubrooms.
 
LoungeLizard said:
If you're gunna argue, at least show something that isn't Collingwood and Carlton, 2 Victorian clubs.
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It's an Australian game. Victoria is still part of Australia.
 

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