Roast The media ... *Shakes head*

[power09]

or Ward maybe

 

[tribey]

Palestine Folau in the mix given the publicity generated and coin paid.

 

[DonDraper]

There was also the pause after he said "failed" to add dramatic effect and let it sink in to the audience that once again someone associated with the PAFC has failed at something.

 

[Jabsy]

Daniel Motlop's AFL career is over after the forward FAILED to nominate for the draft...

What even. Aiston is a ****

Motlop can't even stay on the park for Wanderers.... He's managed 2 games, and is facing the tribunal for the second time this season after being reported for kicking on the weekend. Looks like another 3 games in the stand for him.

The man sounds lost.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Motlop can't even stay on the park for Wanderers.... He's managed 2 games, and is facing the tribunal for the second time this season after being reported for kicking on the weekend. Looks like another 3 games in the stand for him.

The man sounds lost.

I played up there for a long time and while the white fellas would be giving him a bit, his countrymen would be giving it to him non stop.

 

[Changaneen]

Love it how 10 reported that Chad Wingard is ours, we've told him he's ours, almost throwing a Port gurnsey on him. Seems like they are are trying to set us up for failure, if we dont get Chad.....hahahahaha you fail again, what went wrong ect ect. Chad didnt want to come to Port WGS dupe Port.

God i hate those 10 muppets more than 5AA plebs

 

[Powerade 08]

Love it how 10 reported that Chad Wingard is ours, we've told him he's ours, almost throwing a Port gurnsey on him. Seems like they are are trying to set us up for failure, if we dont get Chad.....hahahahaha you fail again, what went wrong ect ect. Chad didnt want to come to Port WGS dupe Port.

Correct...

 

[Changaneen]

Sorry for the angry faces. But i get very defensive when it comes to my club. Its not water off a ducks back to me. Its oil in my feathers.

I had another user account and some crow pleb said they would whipe their arse with the Creed.

I let loose on the keyboard and got perma banned. But still proud that i tried my best on a website that really should be a relaxing place.

These niggles in the media are really big brother propaganda. Most of those idiots are Port haters...............and i want to keep it that way

Because victory in any shape or form is very very sweet.

 

[power09]

It's oil, in the duck's feathers that makes water run off its back.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

I've been thinking about this whole media.... *Shakes head* thing a lot lately and decided that us whinging in this thread is achieving absolutely **** all. You see in this thread and on this board we are preaching to the converted and no one but us, really hears about it. So as far as I can see there are a few options available to us...

1. Do nothing.

2. Continue to whinge in this thread.

3. Take a direct course of action.

Now before I get started I am not the most organised person in my house let alone on an internet forum that contains brilliant thinkers and strategists like REH so this is just a suggestion and if you think you can tweak it or improve it knock yourself out. On that note if you think we do nothing say so...

I think what we should do is strike back. Respectfully and factually. If a story goes into the Advertiser that is damaging to the PAFC (damage we haven't caused ourselves...) that contains factual inaccuracies lets point it out to them. If wrinkles and stupid (and KG before him) spout rubbish of the same note that they have over the last 14 seasons (shit this is our 15th season in the AFL...) then lets point it out to them. Respectfully and factually.

What I am suggesting is that we start a data base with all our email addresses in it, someone maintains that data base and when we are suitably aggrieved we email en masse a respectful and factually correct rebuttal to the boss (editor or producer) of the offending journo or radio presenter. Now if we can get 50-60 people to join up and the same bloke gets 50-60 emails every day that aren't abusive but to the point they are going to get sick of it fairly quickly I would imagine.

I'm sure someone with an IT background could sort this out in no time and look I'm not sure how effective it would be but it's a start. I am sure of one thing and that is that we would get noticed. It only takes one person to hear it, or see it, and share it so I'm certainly not asking anyone to listen to those muppets or buy that rag each day. Maybe 50-60 emails a day will make them think more people are listening but thats a risk I'm prepared to take.

The reason that I have mentioned "Respectfully and Factually" so many time is that if you fly off the handle with expletives and abuse you are buying into the "feral" stereotype that will egg them on.

Anyway just some thoughts, I'm interested to hear if anyone else thinks it's worthwhile or wants to help?

 

[morell]

I like your proactive attitude footyhead, but I think you're making one assumption that makes your suggestion flawed.

And that is - Thinking their bosses (editor or producer) give a flying fat rats clackers about the accuracy or journalistic standards of their shock jocks. They care about only one or two things - advertising revenue and ratings. By sending emails to them you are only confirming one thing - you're still listening.

Far better off sending emails to the radio or newspapers sponsors, stating that you are no longer interested in their products due to the constant and insistent factual errors X, Y and Z are purporting about the Port Adelaide Football Club - also provide said facts and achievable actions for them to resolve it eg "Please ask 5aa for a retraction and your products will once again be considered".

Do that enough times from enough people and it WILL hurt and therefore change their ethos.

EDIT - Only need to look at the death of the much loved TLC on this here very website. It took one journalist (for ever may she rot in hell) to email one BigFooty advertising sponsor about the material on that board for it to be perma-banned.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

I like your proactive attitude footyhead, but I think you're making one assumption that makes your suggestion flawed.

And that is - Thinking their bosses (editor or producer) give a flying fat rats clackers about the accuracy or journalistic standards of their shock jocks. They care about only one thing - advertising revenue and ratings. By sending emails to them you are only confirming one thing - you're still listening.

Far better off sending emails to the radio or newspapers sponsors, stating that you are no longer interested in their products due to the constant and insistent factual errors X, Y and Z are purporting about the Port Adelaide Football Club. Do that enough times from enough people and it WILL hurt.

EDIT - Only need to look at the death of the much loved TLC on this here very website. It took one journalist to email one sponsor about the material on that board for it to be perma-banned.

Thanks for the feedback Morell.

I agree with you but we still need to do something, now if the sponsors get that same 50-60 (and once action starts people will join and that number will grow) emails a day maybe someone will react?

Getting email addresses for organisations isn't that hard but we need to email key people to get our message across. Someone sharper than me will have a solution and an action plan... I hope.

EDIT - Is that what happened to TLC? I had wondered.

 

[morell]

Thanks for the feedback Morell.

I agree with you but we still need to do something, now if the sponsors get that same 50-60 (and once action starts people will join and that number will grow) emails a day maybe someone will react?

Getting email addresses for organisations isn't that hard but we need to email key people to get our message across. Someone sharper than me will have a solution and an action plan... I hope.

Exactly, emailing info@company.com.au isn't going to get you anywhere. We need to leverage the Port Adelaide FC communities networking connections to get contacts of the key people involved in the sponsorships of these media organisations.

In addition, negative or threatening tactics should only be one touch point. We need multiple touch points for it be an effective campaign. That's the difference between a campaign and a once off activity.

So we need a "positive" attack as well. Something along the lines of charity donations or volunteering time if X, Y and Z occurs. For every retraction of lies X, Y and Z the Port Adelaide BigFooty group will donate $5 to a charity or something.

Also need a catchy name or phrase for people to associate the disparate activities into one cohesive campaign. Like the "Occupy" movement for example.

Leverage Social Media - easy way to engage the masses.

etc, etc.

EDIT - Is that what happened to TLC? I had wondered.

There was a very funny pedo-bear thread which had a couple of borderline unsavoury animated GIFs, a nosey journo/blogger saw it was horrified so she emailed some of BigFooty's sponsors and parent company - the BigGroup. Chiefy had no choice but to remove it completely.

 

[morell]

Here is a good place to start:

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/Article_FIVEaa-Business-Directory_96164

Charities for donations.

Businesses to blacklist.

Does anyone have contacts for any of these organisations:

Australian Red Cross Blood Service
Autism SA
Beaumont Tiles
Bunnings Warehouse
CMI Toyota
Direct Interiors
Dreamland Bedding
Flight Centre
Foodland
Munns Lawns
PALS Liquor
Phil Hoffmann Travel
SA Lotteries
TAB
Thirsty Camel
Totally Natural Products
The Proteus Leadership Centre
Trims

 

[Papa G]

Here is a good place to start:

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/Article_FIVEaa-Business-Directory_96164

Charities for donations.

Businesses to blacklist.

Does anyone have contacts for any of these organisations:

Australian Red Cross Blood Service
Autism SA
Beaumont Tiles
Bunnings Warehouse
CMI Toyota
Direct Interiors
Dreamland Bedding
Flight Centre
Foodland
Munns Lawns
PALS Liquor
Phil Hoffmann Travel
SA Lotteries
TAB
Thirsty Camel
Totally Natural Products
The Proteus Leadership Centre
Trims

Dunno if it helps but went to school with number 1 son. They are blue blood Norwood/Crow lovers and Port haters, but I dare say a lot of their business is the tradies where I guess Port supporters have a decent representation, so if their was there was a significant boycott by Port supporters I'm sure they'd take notice.

 

[morell]

That's the problem as well. A lot of these organisations would see being Anti-Port as actually being good for business.

Would need to see a visible hit to the hip pocket for it to work.

 

[simba_]

I've been thinking about this whole media.... *Shakes head* thing a lot lately and decided that us whinging in this thread is achieving absolutely **** all. You see in this thread and on this board we are preaching to the converted and no one but us, really hears about it. So as far as I can see there are a few options available to us...

1. Do nothing.

2. Continue to whinge in this thread.

3. Take a direct course of action.

Now before I get started I am not the most organised person in my house let alone on an internet forum that contains brilliant thinkers and strategists like REH so this is just a suggestion and if you think you can tweak it or improve it knock yourself out. On that note if you think we do nothing say so...

I think what we should do is strike back. Respectfully and factually. If a story goes into the Advertiser that is damaging to the PAFC (damage we haven't caused ourselves...) that contains factual inaccuracies lets point it out to them. If wrinkles and stupid (and KG before him) spout rubbish of the same note that they have over the last 14 seasons (shit this is our 15th season in the AFL...) then lets point it out to them. Respectfully and factually.

What I am suggesting is that we start a data base with all our email addresses in it, someone maintains that data base and when we are suitably aggrieved we email en masse a respectful and factually correct rebuttal to the boss (editor or producer) of the offending journo or radio presenter. Now if we can get 50-60 people to join up and the same bloke gets 50-60 emails every day that aren't abusive but to the point they are going to get sick of it fairly quickly I would imagine.

I'm sure someone with an IT background could sort this out in no time and look I'm not sure how effective it would be but it's a start. I am sure of one thing and that is that we would get noticed. It only takes one person to hear it, or see it, and share it so I'm certainly not asking anyone to listen to those muppets or buy that rag each day. Maybe 50-60 emails a day will make them think more people are listening but thats a risk I'm prepared to take.

The reason that I have mentioned "Respectfully and Factually" so many time is that if you fly off the handle with expletives and abuse you are buying into the "feral" stereotype that will egg them on.

Anyway just some thoughts, I'm interested to hear if anyone else thinks it's worthwhile or wants to help?

I think this thread has actually made more people aware of how damaging it is and how important the media is to growing brands and our brand and the game. I don't see it as whinging, I mean some people kinda use this thread to vent but what of the radio or podcast idea that was formulated pretty quickly in this thread? Is that "doing nothing" or is that actually getting into gear. Also, to me already this thread has become a great way of seeing what they're saying about us and planting into the minds of simpletons without actually buying anything or listening to anything. I do still hear Stupid and Wrinkles most nights driving home from work though but it only reminds me how low this whole industry is.

They will always go for the feral stereotype and will always paint a poor picture of us even if we are sending hundreds of e-mails a day and even managing to clog their connection. We should do that to shake things up but not as a focus point. I reckon this idea of a podcast to at least try and take matters into our own hands is the way to go. Completely independent opinion made by Port fans for Port fans with no backing or influence from any third parties, at least ones that aren't to be trusted.

Hopefully we always remind people that when they get pissed off it isn't just because "that's how things work" but they've clearly "had an axe to grind" (D. Wakelin 2011) for a long time and they've successfully damaged our brand enough to have Port supporters question or abandon their side. Eventually their market will be weakened not just from Port supporters not involving themselves in their propaganda but just by doing this people will understand about it, any malicious way will probably be flipped back on us really quickly.

 

[Portmanteau]

I think Morell has got the right idea. 1- Get a list of the sponsors of our known adversaries, but more importantly 2 - create a parallel list of Port affiliated or general competitors. 3 - Make it known your reasons for shifting $$$ away from these businesses.

 

[SwampRat]

IMO, there has to be more direct action from the club. With the exception of Wakes, I haven't seen any comment from the club over our appalling media coverage.

The fact is, our club takes money from Triple M, 5AA and channel 7 as part of sponsorship deals. It seems the club is too afraid of calling them out in fear of losing this money.

Thomas and/or Duncanson need to be having stern words with the execs at these stations. It's not OK to pay a sponsorship deal then rubbish our brand. Could you imagine if Watpac or MyATM wrote articles on their website trashing the club. It wouldn't stand. I'd rather we end formal associations if that is the case.

 

[Forzaport]

I think this thread has already had a positive impact against the constant negative propaganda aimed at our club.

It really is amazing how a person's perception of the Port Adelaide Football Club can dramatically change if they stop listening to 5aa and stop reading the local rag.

All we really need is more Emma Quayles and less biased, bitter gutter journalists.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

IMO, there has to be more direct action from the club. With the exception of Wakes, I haven't seen any comment from the club over our appalling media coverage.

The fact is, our club takes money from Triple M, 5AA and channel 7 as part of sponsorship deals. It seems the club is too afraid of calling them out in fear of losing this money.

Thomas and/or Duncanson need to be having stern words with the execs at these stations. It's not OK to pay a sponsorship deal then rubbish our brand. Could you imagine if Watpac or MyATM wrote articles on their website trashing the club. It wouldn't stand. I'd rather we end formal associations if that is the case.

The problem we have SwampRat is that the club is under resourced in many many areas and I would think that the football department quite rightly would get any spare coin before the "media are a pack of lying ***** department". The club also has to be mindful of being branded serial complainers.

I think it's our job to do something, I mean after all WE ARE PORT ADELAIDE. We are a part of our club and a supporter driven campaign would carry more weight than the club potentially alienating sponsors and or potential sponsors.

 

[SwampRat]

The problem we have SwampRat is that the club is under resourced in many many areas and I would think that the football department quite rightly would get any spare coin before the "media are a pack of lying ***** department". The club also has to be mindful of being branded serial complainers.

I don't think it's a question of resources at all. PR/Marketing/ and corporate sponsorships are already the responsibility of people at the club. What it needs is for the senior people to be having conversations with 5AA etc. Maybe top brass at 5AA has no idea of the problem?

Sponsorships have to be mutally beneficial. These stations get perks like interviews with key staff and players as part of the deal. But the way it stands now, we are getting a right rogering from these deals. The money flowing in is worth way less than the damage they are causing. SOMEBODY at the club has to realise this.

I think it's our job to do something, I mean after all WE ARE PORT ADELAIDE. We are a part of our club and a supporter driven campaign would carry more weight than the club potentially alienating sponsors and or potential sponsors.

I think this has merit, but we oughtn't be too concerned about alienating potential sponsors. I couldn't imagine a potential sponsor being worried that we ditched 5AA because they were intentionally damaging our brand. Reality is, it probably just needs a discreet conversation to happen, which then gets passed on to Tweedledee and Tweedledum

 

[tribey]

I think this thread has actually made more people aware of how damaging it is and how important the media is to growing brands and our brand and the game. I don't see it as whinging, I mean some people kinda use this thread to vent but what of the radio or podcast idea that was formulated pretty quickly in this thread? Is that "doing nothing" or is that actually getting into gear. Also, to me already this thread has become a great way of seeing what they're saying about us and planting into the minds of simpletons without actually buying anything or listening to anything. I do still hear Stupid and Wrinkles most nights driving home from work though but it only reminds me how low this whole industry is.

They will always go for the feral stereotype and will always paint a poor picture of us even if we are sending hundreds of e-mails a day and even managing to clog their connection. We should do that to shake things up but not as a focus point. I reckon this idea of a podcast to at least try and take matters into our own hands is the way to go. Completely independent opinion made by Port fans for Port fans with no backing or influence from any third parties, at least ones that aren't to be trusted.

Hopefully we always remind people that when they get pissed off it isn't just because "that's how things work" but they've clearly "had an axe to grind" (D. Wakelin 2011) for a long time and they've successfully damaged our brand enough to have Port supporters question or abandon their side. Eventually their market will be weakened not just from Port supporters not involving themselves in their propaganda but just by doing this people will understand about it, any malicious way will probably be flipped back on us really quickly.

Spot on, Bro Piscapo.

This thread hasn't been of the petty variety, ie 'OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE MIKE SHEEHAN RATED DANE SWAN AT 3 INSTEAD OF 1!', but served to highlight the often subtle digs at the club that would otherwise go unnoticed.

Channel Ten especially.

Things like Shuttleworth's propensity to call us "cash-strapped" in stories that have nothing to do with our finances. Mark Aiston's pauses for effect when announcing anything remotely negative at Alberton while simultaneously applauding his offsider after yet another sycophantic puff piece on our crosstown cousins. The recent description of our membership campaign angle as "brave".

What the devil is "brave" about promoting the fans and members of the club as its lifeblood, or one big family, in order to get them to sign up? It is tabloid muck designed to cast doubt and promote negativity. Across the road when the Crows stole their 19th Man concept? Nothing but a Trigg-friendly infomercial.

By the by, have personally emailed 5NFA on more than one occasion to complain about the lack of fairness there before declaring my boycott of the station after Rowe's meltdown a few years ago.

 

[Relativity]

In addition, negative or threatening tactics should only be one touch point. We need multiple touch points for it be an effective campaign. That's the difference between a campaign and a once off activity.

So we need a "positive" attack as well. Something along the lines of charity donations or volunteering time if X, Y and Z occurs. For every retraction of lies X, Y and Z the Port Adelaide BigFooty group will donate $5 to a charity or something.

I think an idea along these lines would work. The one thing any sponsor will get nervous over is being linked to negative publicity. It is therefore not just important to threaten a boycott of their product but to gain publicity for it as well which has the potential to escalate the boycott. Something quirky involving charity donations could attract the required attention.

 

[SYDpower]

It doesnt help that ex players like Bl**dy Chad Cornes whom they have just interviewed on 5AA rubbished our club.

His words were - he thought the juniors at GWS really want to work & that they way the club handles their young kids is outstanding and that it was vastly different to where he came from. His intimations were very clear (funny that we managed to keep our kids then hey Chad?).

The d*ckhead Smutley (aka Graham Cornes) then re-iterates this continually.

A writer then sends an email and GC has a go at her saying that she is being too sensitive and that essentially Chad was sacked & you cant blame him for taking an opportunity. (which I have no problem with - I just have a problem with Chad's attitude).

Gra, gra then reiterates that Chad had no problems with Port supporters, but intimates he had issues with the club or the coach. Chad also made mention that Kane had built up & that he hoped that would impress the "coach". Looks to me that Chad and Primus arent the best of friends.

Honestly Chad just needs to STFU - he is really coming over as a very bitter person & really he needs to zip it up. His influence is immense and the continual bitter banter needs to stop. If he continues to rubbish our club, then this does not help us (he probably will also be the scout to try and get one of our players over to GWS given his relationship with our guys).

Personallly I may tweet him & tell him to be much more graceful. If he continues to drop intimations all the time about PAFC, then he really is just not seen in a good light & the supporters that love him will quickly turn on him. I would never wish him ill, but right now, I just wish he would pull a Grade 1 hammy that again re-iterates why we needed to give games to our kids.